Skip to comments.Generation Vex (The (really) long goodbye of the Baby Boomers
Posted on 11/05/2007 7:32:06 AM PST by American Quilter
O rend thy garments, America! Heap ashes upon thy head. We, the generation of generations--triumphant in our multitudes, invincible, indomitable, insufferable--have come into our inheritance. Hereby we claim our birthright. Give us all your money.
The pittance that is a current Social Security payment was intended to maintain the doddering retirees of yore in their accustomed condition of thin gruel and single-car garages. Such chump change will hardly suffice for today's vigorous sexagenarians intent on (among other things) vigorous sex, in places like Paris, St. Bart's, and Phuket.
How can present Social Security allotments be expected to fund our sky-diving, bungee-jumping, hang gliding and white-water rafting, our skiing, golf and scuba excursions, our photo safaris to Africa, bike tours of Tuscany and sojourns at Indian ashrams, our tennis clinics, spa treatments, gym memberships and personal fitness training, our luxury cruises to the Galapagos and Antarctica, the vacation homes in Hilton Head and Vail, the lap pools, Jacuzzis, and clay courts being built thereat and the his and hers Harley Davidsons?
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The greatest generation begat the worst generation.
The boomers gave us self indulgence, me first, multicultural, anti American, self loathing. All in one nasty package.
I am one of the boomers who didn’t drink the kool-aid. I don’t have much use for those that did.
Same here. I plan to leave as much money as possible to my heirs in an effort to make up for the damage the BB generation has done to our country. Of course, since the government (except for W.) refuses to address the looming Social Security crisis, my "benefits" will probably come to $1.84 per month.
I remember being a kid hearing the “Greatest Generation” emphatically exclaim that that wanted better for their kids then they had. While a noble proclamation, it has turned out to be a curse for the rest of us. Be careful what you wish for.
With all do respect to Baby Boomers....
“What can I do for you next, Dad?”
—a great column-—(pre-boomer-1940)
“Of course, since the government (except for W.) refuses to address the looming Social Security crisis, my “benefits” will probably come to $1.84 per month.”
Those of us who have made any money, and planned, we are the ones who will be screwed. The unrest that would come from not providing for those who spent every last dime they ever got their hands on would be huge. Old people going homeless, working families taking on penniless parents... that would lead to real problems in the voting booth, and perhaps beyond.
So, they’ll provide for the people who didn’t provide for themselves. How? My SS benefits will be reduced to zero because I have a house, and money in the bank. This irritates me beyond words, but it will happen.
Not too humorous, I'd say.
“I am one of the boomers who didnt drink the kool-aid. I dont have much use for those that did.”
Here too. The family car has never had its own house either.
It wasn’t the baby boomers who put us on the train to hell. It was the so called greatest generation. They’re the ones who voted for the pie in the sky crook politicians that started the whole New Deal-Great Society-cradle to grave socialistic Ponzi scheme that is getting ready to crash. I was born in 1946 and had no opportunity to vote against Roosevelt or LBJ. furthermore, I plan to take care of myself ‘til I die, which is a lot more than the slack jawed and slack pantsed kids are likely to be able to do. It’s gonna’ be interesting if not much fun for a couple of decades.
My father has often stated the same thing. I was going to post something to this effect, but I am a Gen-xer (early 30s) and I was also taught to "respect" my elders. :o)
My father is ashamed that his generation has contributed nothing for future generations of Americans. He is working hard to try and give his kids (me) something for our troubles.
“While a noble proclamation, it has turned out to be a curse for the rest of us. Be careful what you wish for.”
The biggest curse is those boomers that chose politics. There was a time where American politicians were Americans. Sure they were corrupt, and still politicians, but they used to have a sense that America was important. The current crop has one thing in mind, themselves. And if they hurt America, that’s ok.
That is the thing I find most distressing about America today. Our politicians have no sense of honor, or nobility. No sense that America is something special that should be cared for with the greatest of devotion. No, they only thing they care about is power, and enriching their bank accounts.
Actually, P.J.’s wit is normally much sharper. He must be getting old.
I plan to take care of myself til I die, which is a lot more than the slack jawed and slack pantsed kids are likely to be able to do. Its gonna be interesting if not much fun for a couple of decades.
I think you would be well served to actually go and look what Gen-Xers are doing for their retirement. Most are investing in 401K's, Buying IRAs, etc. Like me, we do not believe that SS is for us. It was for you. We have to figure our own way to save and most are.
There’s one thing the boomers are going to do that will benefit the country—we’ll end Social Security by making it go bankrupt. And as we pass over into the next life, the younger generations will acquire the majority of voting power and will force the politicians to end this particular trough.
Be careful. I got lambasted and flamed to a char on here for expressing those sentiments. The baby boomers brought all those things you mentioned and will leave us broke, corrupt and no chance of enjoying the things they had at birth. I’ll be all right though. I noticed their values and morays when i was a teenager and i knew they would break the treasury and destroy American culture. So i have prepared for no Social Security, no chance of living in a moral and respectable society and in a country where there will be little economic opportunity when it comes to production and manufacturing. Oh yeah, we will probably need to learn to speak Spanish or Arabic soon also.
am one of the boomers who didnt drink the kool-aid. I dont have much use for those that did.
I don’t know if I am considered a bomer or not (1944) but I’m with you.
Thanks for posting . . . good to know P.J. O’Rourke is still “making contact with the ball.”
I agree. (another pre-boomer here, also 1940)
Say, that was a pretty good year, huh?
“Be careful. I got lambasted and flamed to a char on here for expressing those sentiments.”
Much of what I say is supported by emprical evidence. And my opinion is my opinion, flame away.
I agree with you, the boomers have left America much worse than when they found it.
How in good conscience can you proclaim the “greatest generation” great if they begot and raised my pathetic and self-absorbed generation, the Boomers?
This sounds like typical liberal reasoning to me. Intentions and not results are what makes someone “great”.
And am I the only one who finds it odd that the only reason the “greatest generation” is so named is because they were drafted into a world war which they (thankfully) won? And that this moniker was awarded to this generation by a liberal boomer journalist who has worked against every military effort in which this country has been involved for the last fifty years unless there happened to be a Democrat in the White House?
Great? Good perhaps...but great?
I like everything he writes.
Nope, you're part of the Greatest Generation. The boomers were born between 1946-1964.
All the people who passed the federal and state laws with all the entitlements are the ones who have screwed the future generations. It is all the old farts in congress who won’t address SS reform or entitlements are all Pre-Boomies..so I don’t blame the boomers as much as them..plus their useful idiots who want to build a memorial to Woodstock.
“It is all the old farts in congress who wont address SS reform or entitlements are all Pre-Boomies..so I dont blame the boomers ... “
No, it is the boomers who won’t address SS. Boomers began in 1945, so the first of the crop is 62 years old. I’d say there aren’t that many pre boomers in congress at this point.
I didn't! (I assume your question was general and not specifically addressed to me.) And I agree with you about the "greatest generation" moniker. What did we call them before Brokaw got into the act? The WWII generation? The Depression/WWII generation? I can't remember.
Amen, brother! I am so tired of this boomer bashing. It’s all BS. Boomers working now are paying for all the greedy geezers currently getting the benefits. Boomers have paid more into Social Insecurity and Medicare than anyone, and they will receive nothing for it. Politicians are soon going to change the elgibility age for SS benefits to 106 and Medicare will consist of a bureaucrat standing on your air hose. These ponzi schemes should never have been started, and now they are collapsing under their own weight. To blame boomers for this is a load of dung.
Look at AARP if you want to see a real problem. Their motto ought to be, “Give us what we want now, and to hell with the future!”
I’m 40 and expect to receive either nothing from SS or a pittance compared either to what I put in (and could have built up in savings myself with that money) or what Boomers will receive. I’m resigned to having to save for mySELF.
But because I “count as gone” my SS taxes — down a rathole — I have to put aside EXTRA money for retirement.
In turn, that means forgoing things that the Boomers didn’t forgo. Things like a nicer home, a 2d car, a 3d child.
Obviously most of those Boomers who post HERE are not the problematic ones, but as a generation? They did not serve mine well.
It was general and not meant to be personal. And as to your question of what they called them before Brokaw got into the act, it depended on what the story was about and what liberal ideological point they were trying to make at the time.
YEP...what YOU said! Most Boomers have worked and paid into the “system” for 40+ years......it was the “Boomers” who helped vote in Reagan.....and... this country has had a 20 year economic boom.....fixing SS is a political problem, NOT a Boomer problem....as Boomers my husband and I do not look at SS as a major source of life funding.....we’ve planned our life that way.
I’m with both of you regarding the “greatest generation” . . . they were the first generation that voted in an outright “bread and circuses” type demagogue in FDR. Not so great.
The following is simply my opinion . ..
Don’t forgo the 2nd and 3rd child!!! I don’t see that; better they live, and you live a full life, than to salt away material things that can be taken from you anyway. Screw the financial planners, live with courage, and trust God to reward you for doing the right thing in terms of having more children. Hell, tithe 10% to your church as well. You’ll do fine.
Fishing seems to be one of the few fun activities P.J. forgets to mention.
Problem is, the only people with the power to fix the situation are the boomers. They seem unwilling to do it, at least the ones with D’s after their names, and many of the ones with R’s.
It was LBJ that sent the entire thing into the ditch. EVERYTHING got funded out of SS - Welfare, entitlements, etc. Nixon did a number on it too, by borrowing $11BB from SS that was never repaid to get us out of Viet Nam.
It was this big bucket of cash just SITTING there, and it became too tempting to leave alone.
The Great Society was anything but. Roosevelt got it going, but it took LBJ to really screw it up.
Maybe, but maybe not (do fine with so much less money), esp. considering my wife’s job must be in expensive SoCal.
This area is filled with people who had way too many kids relative to what they could afford. Such, in my opinion, was not the right move, either for them, for their kids, or for the other taxpayers who get to soak up the financial slack.
We disagree. I don’t think a child needs material things beyond the basics (at least as much as our society says they do); if there is love in the house the child will do fine even if the family can’t afford new cars and bedrooms for each of the kids. I had a good math teacher in high school that had to get a better paying job because he had 7 children . . . but he gave up the low paying career . . . not the children . . .!
I never understood the whole “greatest generation” nonsense anyway. Okay, the good guys won WWII and everyone sacrificed. Of course the alternative was to lose and live under totalitarianism. So really, they just did what they were supposed to do. WWII was no cake walk and there were countless heroic patriots fighting, but there countless heroic patriots in Korea, Viet Nam, Grenada (okay maybe not countless but still heroic patriots), Desert Storm and the GWOT.
They have become a very grasping and self-centered generation since then (there are notable exceptions of course), and, as someone mentioned earlier, gave birth to the worst generation.
I agree. I think it was Mark Steyn who said that the greatest statement of faith one can make in one's culture is to have children.
Yes. I forgot to add public education. I was busy learning about the evil McCarthy and multi-culture to waste time on learning how to spell mores.
“It wasnt the baby boomers who put us on the train to hell. It was the so called greatest generation. Theyre the ones who voted for the pie in the sky crook politicians that started the whole New Deal-Great Society-cradle to grave socialistic Ponzi scheme that is getting ready to crash.”
I’m not sure the guys who were 17 and 18 in 1941 and grizzled veterans by 1945 did any voting in 1932 or 1936.
I think your focus on that point ought to be on the generation prior to the ‘greatest generation.’
Join the crowd. I'm 35 and will never see a dime of all the money that has been confiscated from me. I think they should institute means testing, Grandma and Grandpa who have $4.5 million in the bank really don't need the monthly check do they??? So if I can pay in for decades and not see a dime, then they can pay in for decades and not see a dime either. Fair is fair. You won't see one salty tear in my eye if they start denying benefits to rich boomers.
“Im not sure the guys who were 17 and 18 in 1941 and grizzled veterans by 1945 did any voting in 1932 or 1936”
But they did create the 60s and the great society, the immigration law of 1965, Vietnam etc.
We didn’t start reining them in until about the mid 70s, since then we have even started rolling back some of their destructive politics, especially since the early 90s.
As the old dinosaurs have retired, we have been retaking our gun rights, slowing up affirmative action, building resistance to the 1965 immigration bill, even the old feminism of their generation has been weakened.
“They have become a very grasping and self-centered generation since then (there are notable exceptions of course), and, as someone mentioned earlier, gave birth to the worst generation.”
They did raise the worst generation, I’ll give you that. But I think they were the greatest generation. They survived the depression, they won WWII, carried on the idustrial revolution making America the most productive country in the world and were the ones who got us to the moon.
The greatest generation subscribed to the melting pot, and developed a public school system that was very good. The ideals, goals, and philosophy of the “greatest generation” were top shelf. Look at the media from the time, the things expressed in movies. Things that they tried to teach their kids.
But, they do have one large failure. They tried to give their kids too much. Tough love was not commonly known or practiced. They gave us the boomers, but they did make America. The greatest generation subscribed to the melting pot, and developed a public school system that was very good.
“I think they should institute means testing, Grandma and Grandpa who have $4.5 million in the bank really don’t need the monthly check do they??? “
Yep, that’s how they’ll present it. And then you’ll find out that if your retirement income is over $30k you make too much and you’ll be denied any of your money back. I’m 50 and not likely to get any of my money back, and I’ve been paying a long time. And a lot of money.
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actually, 1944 is part of the Silent Generation.
I’m already stockpiling canned cat food for my retirement. China Mart has a special every month about a week before Social Security checks come out.
“The greatest generation subscribed to the melting pot, and developed a public school system that was very good.”
You need to start looking at the historical timelines, those were the things that they were destroying.