Posted on 11/05/2007 2:56:49 PM PST by Sopater
He’s educated far beyond his intelligence.
Thank you for pointing this out. I’d like to take it apart a bit further and stand it up against Amendment One.....
First this tidbit...
> The spiritual side of students belongs at home and at church, not in the educational system <
Now let’s look at Amendment One:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Note specifically >prohibiting the free exercise thereof<
This phrase I interpret to mean THE GOV’T CAN’T STOP A CHRISTIAN FROM PRAYING ON GOV’T PROPERTY. Sorry for yelling, I am weary of this ‘separation of church and state’ crap.
The part about ‘unless you are muslim’ means that muzzies are getting special rights, just like queers, blacks, and illegal aliens.
We already have FAR TOO MANY laws. Hate crime laws make some folks ‘more equal’.
You have got to be kidding me! IN GOD WE TRUST is on every currency we have. This fool who is going to ban this is anti-American LETS VOTE HIM OUT OF THE COUNTRY!
TGIB!
It lost!
4 - 1
Thank God it’s Bakersfield!
www.bakersfield.com
“Board President Bob Hampton, a former teacher in the district, told the L.A. Times that he’ll vote against the posters because they reflect a “spiritual agenda.”
Why do I feel this reflect an agenda on the part of Bob and Company beyond anti-religion? The “spiritual agenda” of which he complains are integral to the founding documents of this nation. There is nothing about “thou shalt believe in the Christian God” commandment or agenda there.
This same person and his confreres will argue to the high heavens that materials offensive to some must be accepted because of the overall value of the work. Hence pornography and obscenities are all right if there is something of “redeeming value” in the overall presentation. We must accept Mary with elephant dung, crucifixes in urine, George Carlin’s foul mouth, Playboy, Playgirl, Vagina Monologues, abortion, burning U.S. flags, the Westboro Baptist Church and more all because other values exist in connection with the offensive portion of their works—at least that is what we are told. But here the founding documents of our nation contain explicit and implicit references to God and this school system is voting whether to expose the kids to it in any way.
I suspect it is a real objection to the founding documents and not just to their religious references. This is a path to following England to where they are seriously encouraging citizens not to fly the national flag but be sure to fly the flags of other nations, to where Christmas has been proposed to be downgraded to just another national holiday, to where Winnie-the_pooh’s piglet cannot be displayed for fear of offending others. Is this where the world’s policeman wants to go?
If California dropped off its coast—from San Diego, through SF and up to Oregon—this would be a damned good state.
1) Children are forced into government school under threat of police force. If children don´t attend they and their parents face the very real threat of prison and-or foster care.
2) Once in the government Marxist Indoctrination Camp the children are told to shut up.
3) Children are forbidden to publish
4) They can not freely exercise their religious believes (except if they are Muslim)
5) The government Marxist Indoctrination camp workers forbid free association. Instead this is determined by the government.
6)There is NO SUCH THING as a religiously neutral education!!!! It is impossible!! Therefore: When the government owns and runs indoctrination camps, government establishes the religious of some and trashes that of others.
Marxism is our nation´s most important and threatening enemy. It isn´t Islamofascism. We can survive a nuclear suit case bomb but we will never survive if the Marxists succeed in indoctrinating the next generation of voters.
Our government indoctrination camps are thoroughly and completely infiltrated by Marxists and there are plenty of useful idiots ( mis-named¨”teachers” ) to help.
So...Where are those who took an oath to defend the Constitution? Why aren´t they demanding that these centers of abomination ( Mis-named public schools) be SHUT DOWN permanently????
Now....I fully expect that some NEA dim wit will post that all parents have the choice to homeschool or send their kid to private school.
Yes, it is called RANSOM!
All parents have the right to pay extra for a private school or homeschool so that they can RANSOM their child´s heart and mind from the clutches of their MARXIST government school prison guards.
They’ll have to translate it into Spanish so the huge illegal and anchor baby student population will be able to read it.
I see that "In God We Trust" was not banned from the Bakersfield schools, but is there any indication that it was the teachers who wanted it to be?
From the article, it looks like it was some trustees (is that what they call school board members in California?) who decided the banners were a bad idea. I don't see anywhere that it mentioned what the teachers thought, one way or another.
I don't know about California, but I've never lived anywhere that the teachers agreed with the school board all of the time.
You need to know the modern 1st Amendment rights:
1. Saying “Jesus is Lord” — ILLEGAL
2. Saying “Jesus is a fairytale” — CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED
Got it?
The First Amendment prohibited ONLY Congress from making laws regarding religion and the other freedoms contained within.
It took a Republican backed Constitutional Amendment, the Fourteenth, and a Republican Supreme Court, The Taft Court, to use this amendment to strip from the many states, and thus local communities contained therein, of their right to make laws regarding these matters.
The Taft Court ruling is known as the “Incorporation Doctrine”. Subsequent Republican Supreme Court justices like Earl Warren, and Republican majority Supreme Courts, have used the “Incorporation Doctrine” to deny states the right to conduct school prayer in public schools, prohibit Christian displays on government property, and limit the exercise of free speech concerning religion on government property.
Tell me, what assurance do you have that by placing the “In God We Trust” poster in public school classrooms, it will promote our Christian concept in God, rather than the Muslim of God? Consider this most carefully, and with full knowledge that October 1, 2006, the Republican Supreme Court, led by Chief Justice Roberts, refused to hear a case involving the mandatory teachings and prayers upon Muslim prayer rugs of Islam in public schools.
What gives you such confidence that no public school employees will teach other than the Christian concept of God, and none will take the opportunity the poster will present to ridicule God?
The problems besetting religion in regards to the First Amendment are not a result of interpretations of the First Amendment. The problem is the Fourteenth Amendment, and the extremely liberal interpretation of the Constitution and all other amendments, that amendment made possible.
Bakersfield is not San Diego. But jeeze, it looks like I got out of Kali just in time... in 1973.
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