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ĎAll Modern Discoveries Are By Muslim Scientistsí (History Twisted To Boost Islam's Image)
Daily Times ^ | Tuesday, November 06, 2007 | Daily Times

Posted on 11/06/2007 7:02:15 AM PST by DogByte6RER

‘All modern discoveries are by Muslim scientists’

LAHORE: Muslim scientists have made all discoveries of the current age, said University of Columbia’s Arabic and Islamic Studies prof George Saliba at a seminar at the Government College University (GCU) on Monday. The seminar, titled The Problems of Historiography of Islamic Science, was held at Fazl-e-Hussain Hall. Saliba gave a critique of the standard classical accounts of the rise of Islamic science. He detailed problems in the accounts and explained alternative historiography that described the rise of an Islamic scientific tradition as a result of social and political conditions within the nascent Islamic empire. He said Muslim philosophy was the impetus behind Islamic science that had contributed to various disciplines including botany, zoology, algebra, trigonometry, physics, chemistry, astronomy, physics, chemistry, physiology and mathematics in the pre-industrial era. He said the use of decimal fractions was not a Western invention and that it was discovered by a Muslim scientist. He said the binary system, on which the computer was based, was also invented by a Muslim scientist. He said Arab/Islamic science was not an intermediary between Greek science and European science, but was rather the Renaissance that integrated the Islamic science with European science. Saliba also visited the English Language and Literature Department where he engaged faculty members in a conversation on the Islamic and Renaissance paradigms. staff report

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: crushislam; dribble; history; indoctrination; islam; islamofascism; jihad; lies; ministryoftruth; muhammadsminions; muslims; penisenvy; propaganda; revision
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There are lies, damn lies, and there is Islam.

This idiot professor has yet to explain why the oil rich Arab countries must import all of their brainpower just to get the oil out of their deserts.

Unbelievable...

1 posted on 11/06/2007 7:02:18 AM PST by DogByte6RER
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To: DogByte6RER; knighthawk

There are lies, damn lies, and there is Islam.


Spot on. Great tagline.

2 posted on 11/06/2007 7:04:56 AM PST by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*RWVA)
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To: DogByte6RER

Wow - are muzzies picking up where the commies left off? IIRC, Lenin was responible for all the good in the world.


4 posted on 11/06/2007 7:09:06 AM PST by meowmeow (In Loving Memory of Our Dear Viking Kitty (1987-2006))
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To: DogByte6RER
They remind me of the Russian character, on "Hogan's Heroes", who was always claiming that the Russians invented the airplane, the lightbulb, ad nauseum.

And they'll keep going, until one of these days they'll figure out that the West invented nuclear fission, after all.
5 posted on 11/06/2007 7:09:54 AM PST by horse_doc (Visualize a world where a tactical nuke went off at Max Yasgur's farm in 1969.)
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To: DogByte6RER

Wow! And all this time I thought they were blaming the Joooooooooooooooooooooooos for all the world’s modern ills...


6 posted on 11/06/2007 7:10:00 AM PST by null and void (No more Bushes/No more Clintons)
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To: DogByte6RER

Yes, and that would explain why Bahrain and Libya, among others, continue to pour forth nearly all of the technological innovation in the World today.


7 posted on 11/06/2007 7:10:19 AM PST by Elpasser
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To: DogByte6RER

I had no idea so many Jews converted to islam...


8 posted on 11/06/2007 7:11:07 AM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in 1938.)
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To: DogByte6RER

What’s the ratio of Jewish to Muslim Nobel Prize winners again?

Excluding the peace prize, its easily 100 to 1.


9 posted on 11/06/2007 7:11:47 AM PST by agere_contra (Do not confuse the wealth of nations with the wealth of government - FDT)
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To: DogByte6RER
It seems they are especially strong in the fields of physics, chemistry
10 posted on 11/06/2007 7:12:51 AM PST by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: DogByte6RER

Newsweek actually had a good article a few weeks back on the lack of science and scholarship in the Muslim world.

In Pakistan, at least according to the writers and professors interviewed, scholars and students are regularly threatened and harassed by extremists on campus. Anyone who writes or speaks out publicly on anything that might remotely question Salafist dogma in is at risk so there is an utter lack of imagination and debate of new ideas in any field you can think of, from History to the Hard Sciences (and you can forget about philosophy and theology).


11 posted on 11/06/2007 7:12:51 AM PST by sinanju
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To: DogByte6RER
psychosis [sy.KO.sis] (n).

“The inability to distinguish between what is real and what is imaginary. Psychosis is a term used to describe a severe mental illness. Psychotics are characterized by a variety of symptoms that most people consider abnormal. These include experiencing delusions, such as the notion that one is being persecuted or conspired against. Psychotics may see things which don't actually exist and hear Voices (i.e. God) when no one is around. They often exhibit compulsive, irrational, ritualized behavior, esp. when such behavior serves no purpose or is even harmful or disruptive to those around them. They show no concern for others but may exhibit total self-centered behavior. Includes sociopathy, schizophrenia.”

DSM-IV

12 posted on 11/06/2007 7:13:29 AM PST by pabianice
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To: DogByte6RER

“Muslim scientists have made all discoveries of the current age, said University of Columbia’s Arabic and Islamic Studies prof George Saliba at a seminar at the Government College University (GCU) on Monday”

Maybe if we just said “thanks” we could all be brothers.


13 posted on 11/06/2007 7:13:33 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: meowmeow
Wow - are muzzies picking up where the commies left off? IIRC, Lenin was responsible for all the good in the world.

I wasn't aware that Dr. Edward Teller and Dr. Jonas Salk were mooslime.To name just two.

14 posted on 11/06/2007 7:14:13 AM PST by dearolddad (Opinions are like rectums: everybody has one.)
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To: horse_doc

“They remind me of the Russian character, on “Hogan’s Heroes”, who was always claiming that the Russians invented the airplane, the lightbulb, ad nauseum.

And they’ll keep going, until one of these days they’ll figure out that the West invented nuclear fission, after all.”

Are you sure you’re not thinking of Chekov on Star Trek:TOS?


15 posted on 11/06/2007 7:14:24 AM PST by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: DogByte6RER
LAHORE: Muslim scientists have made all discoveries of the current age, said University of Columbia’s Arabic and Islamic Studies prof George Saliba at a seminar at the Government College University (GCU) on Monday.

This really should be beneath any response, but upon reflection, I must defend the Good Professor.

HOW could we EVER forget the Termite-digging Stick?

16 posted on 11/06/2007 7:14:42 AM PST by Gorzaloon (Food imported from China = "Cesspool + Flavor-Straw")
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To: DogByte6RER

Jeez - is there any level that these people won’t stoop to?


17 posted on 11/06/2007 7:15:58 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Ron Paul put the cuckoo in my Cocoa Puffs)
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To: DogByte6RER

Vis-a-vis current events, what about nuclear fission?

They discovered camel dung stinks. That’s it.


18 posted on 11/06/2007 7:16:01 AM PST by IamConservative (Only two have offered to die for a stranger; Jesus Christ and the American Soldier)
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To: DogByte6RER

the only science was the fact that a few greedy merchants know that westerners would pay big coin for some old hellenic era parchments.


19 posted on 11/06/2007 7:17:48 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: DogByte6RER
What, Exactly, are the Great Achievements of the Islamic World?

ML/NJ

20 posted on 11/06/2007 7:18:34 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: reagan_fanatic

No.


21 posted on 11/06/2007 7:19:06 AM PST by null and void (No more Bushes/No more Clintons)
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To: DogByte6RER

Oh now I understand...revising history...it was really Hussein Al-Gore (not Al Gore) who invented the internet.


22 posted on 11/06/2007 7:19:37 AM PST by rod1
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To: ml/nj
Nice, but wrong coming out of the gate. They stole the “arabic” numbers from the Hindus...
23 posted on 11/06/2007 7:21:09 AM PST by null and void (No more Bushes/No more Clintons)
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To: DogByte6RER

And then there are those pesky nuclear weapons, an Islamic invention gone terribly bad when they are unleashed on an Islamic nation. The start of Islamic reform.


24 posted on 11/06/2007 7:21:57 AM PST by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: chaosagent
“They remind me of the Russian character, on “Hogan’s Heroes”, who was always claiming that the Russians invented the airplane, the lightbulb, ad nauseum.

Didn't the Soviets in the '70s or '80s try to claim they invented baseball (beizbol)?
25 posted on 11/06/2007 7:23:46 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (When gov't wants to fix something, chances are it was the gov't that broke it in the first place.)
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To: DogByte6RER
They dug through what was thought to be the Ancient Temple on the Temple Mount and did not have a clue what they were doing.
26 posted on 11/06/2007 7:23:58 AM PST by mountainlyons (Hard core conservative)
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To: DogByte6RER

These people are pathetic. If this guy is right, how do you account for this: in an otherwise booming India, “Fifty-two percent of Muslim men are unemployed...Unemployment among Muslim women is 91 percent...Forty-eight percent of Muslims older than 46 can’t read or write. Though they make up 11 percent of the population, Muslims account for 40 percent of the prison population. See: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/01/AR2007110101035.html


27 posted on 11/06/2007 7:24:05 AM PST by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: DogByte6RER

“‘All Modern Discoveries Are By Muslim Scientists’”

Oh yeah. They “discovered” all the work of those they made submit to them.

There is some amount of irony in the history of “Muslim” scientists in that those who actually did contribute were secular and considered apostates. Now they want to embrace them in an attempt to glorify their ideology.


28 posted on 11/06/2007 7:24:48 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: IamConservative

I guess that our patent records are all wrong because they are written in English instead of Arabic...and (wimper, cry) does that mean that Mozart was a muzzie? OH NO!


29 posted on 11/06/2007 7:26:10 AM PST by Stayfree (*************************Get your FLUSH HILLARY T-shirt at FLUSH HILLARY.com!!!)
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To: All

No Arab country spends more than 0.2 percent of its gross national
product on scientific research, and most of that money goes toward
salaries. By contrast, the United States spends more than 10 times that
amount.

Fewer than one in 20 Arab university students pursue scientific
disciplines.

There are only 18 computers per 1,000 people in the Arab world. The
global average is 78 per 1,000.

Only 370 industrial patents were issued to people in Arab countries
between 1980 and 2000. In South Korea during that same period, 16,000
industrial patents were issued.

No more than 10,000 books were translated into Arabic over the entire
past millennium, equivalent to the number translated into Spanish each
year.

Information published in The Chronicle of Higher Education [03/05/2004] here:
http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:sESyDj8NzBQJ:chronicle.com/weekly/v50/i26/26a03601.htm+patents+issued+to+arab+world&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&lr=lang_en|lang_es&client=opera

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30 posted on 11/06/2007 7:26:22 AM PST by JCG
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To: DogByte6RER

No, no, no.... Al Gore invented everything. Didn’t he?

(Was he a a Mussie? Who new?)


31 posted on 11/06/2007 7:26:27 AM PST by plenipotentiary
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To: horse_doc
They remind me of the Russian character, on "Hogan's Heroes", who was always claiming that the Russians invented the airplane, the lightbulb, ad nauseum.

If you peruse the Great Soviet Encyclopedia, you will learn that the airplane was invented by Alexander Mozhaiskii in 1882 and that the incandescent light bulb was invented by a Russian named Lodinov in 1870. And at an exposition of holographs from the Soviet Union that was held in London in 1985, one of the displays informed visitors that Soviet scientists invented the laser in 1958.

32 posted on 11/06/2007 7:28:03 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: pabianice

re: “psychosis [sy.KO.sis] (n).”

I used to know someone like this. My pet name for him was “Muhammad.”


33 posted on 11/06/2007 7:29:59 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: DogByte6RER

Professor Saliba should look at the list of Nobel Prize winners in physics, chemistry and medicine. I don’t think he will find any Muslims, but will find many Jews and Christians.


34 posted on 11/06/2007 7:30:16 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: DogByte6RER
Before the year 600 AD the Arab world did have major inputs to science, math. Numbers as we used them today came from Arabic symbols.

Now if I could just remember what happen around 600 AD.

35 posted on 11/06/2007 7:30:21 AM PST by ThomasThomas
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To: DogByte6RER

By “modern” do they mean 8th or 12th century?


36 posted on 11/06/2007 7:31:08 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Stayfree

Hey professor dimwit...pull your head out!


37 posted on 11/06/2007 7:31:35 AM PST by Stayfree (*************************Get your FLUSH HILLARY T-shirt at FLUSH HILLARY.com!!!)
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To: DogByte6RER
I see that Baghdad Bob has a new gig


38 posted on 11/06/2007 7:33:35 AM PST by smonk
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To: RobRoy

Most of today’s Palestinians and Turks had Christian ancestors, IIRC.


39 posted on 11/06/2007 7:35:24 AM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: goldstategop

ping


40 posted on 11/06/2007 7:39:37 AM PST by null and void (No more Bushes/No more Clintons)
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To: horse_doc

Nuclear fission was DISCOVERED; the A-bomb was invented!

MV


41 posted on 11/06/2007 7:41:42 AM PST by madvlad ((Born in the south, raised around the globe and STILL republican))
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To: DogByte6RER

Groups that have no significant accomplishments usually try to take credit for the work of others, or invent a glorious history for themselves that never existed. There are whole departments in US universities devoted to such nonsense.


42 posted on 11/06/2007 7:42:28 AM PST by Hacklehead (Proud graduate of the Klingon School of Interpersonal Communication.)
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To: null and void
A couple of people said the same thing on that thread. One of the great things about the internet is that errors get exposed very quickly.

Still, the sentiment of my question was accurate.

ML/NJ

43 posted on 11/06/2007 7:42:56 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: DogByte6RER
If by “all modern discoveries” they meant their own asses, and if they managed to have a westerner put a mirror on a stick for them and taught them how to use it, the headline statement STILL wouldn’t be true.
44 posted on 11/06/2007 7:43:00 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: ml/nj

Yed. Very accurate, the minor and understandable error only serves to further highlight underlying truth.


45 posted on 11/06/2007 7:44:48 AM PST by null and void (No more Bushes/No more Clintons)
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To: ThomasThomas

The muslims never invented anything. They took over, copied, inherited, the Greek Byzantine inheritance.

Read DeLacy O’Leary.

How Greek Science Passed to the Arabs

DeLacy O’Leary

The history of science is one of knowledge being passed from community to community over thousands of years, and this is the classic account of the most influential of these movements—how Hellenistic science passed to the Arabs where it took on a new life and led to the development of Arab astronomy and medicine, which flourished in the courts of the Muslim world and later passed on to medieval Europe. Starting with the rise of Hellenism in Asia in the wake of the campaigns of Alexander the Great, O’Leary deals with the Greek legacy of science, philosophy, mathematics, and medicine and follows it as it travels across the Near East propelled by religion, trade, and conquest. Dealing in depth with Christianity as a Hellenizing force, the influence of the Nestorians and the Monophysites, Indian influences by land and sea, and the rise of Buddhism, O’Leary then focuses on the development of science during the Baghdad Khalifate, the translation of Greek scientific material into Arabic, and the effect it had on the history of medicine, science, and historical geography, as well as the history of the Arab world.

http://www.columbia.edu/cu/cup/catalog/data/071030/0710307470.HTM


46 posted on 11/06/2007 7:45:32 AM PST by plenipotentiary
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To: DogByte6RER

All Your Modern Discoveries Are Belong To Us


47 posted on 11/06/2007 7:46:22 AM PST by ichabod1 ("Self defense is not only our right, it is our duty." President Ronald Reagan)
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To: DogByte6RER
"Islamic science that had contributed to various disciplines including botany, zoology, algebra, trigonometry, physics, chemistry, astronomy, physics, chemistry, physiology and mathematics in the pre-industrial era."

Yes! Chemistry is THAT important.

48 posted on 11/06/2007 7:47:12 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Cletus has a BS.Chem)
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To: null and void

There Are No Jews In Jerusalem. NEEeeveh!


49 posted on 11/06/2007 7:47:13 AM PST by ichabod1 ("Self defense is not only our right, it is our duty." President Ronald Reagan)
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To: null and void

Yed???? I meant Yes...


50 posted on 11/06/2007 7:47:56 AM PST by null and void (No more Bushes/No more Clintons)
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