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Ban on wood fires in Bay Area debate
Associated Press / Mercury News ^ | 11/6/07 | Dennis Cuff

Posted on 11/06/2007 10:12:36 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom

Igniting a public health war on smoke, the Bay Area's air pollution agency proposed Monday to ban wood fires on bad air nights and to bar new installations of open hearth fireplaces in homes and buildings. Until now, the air quality district has not regulated indoor burning of wood.

Instead, the district has asked people to voluntarily refrain from lighting fires on chilly winter "Spare the Air" nights to protect the public from the health effects of tiny smoke particles that can lodge deep in human lungs.

The particles can aggravate asthma, emphysema and lead to premature death among the elderly.

Under the proposed rule, people in the nine Bay Area counties who burn on bad air nights would be subject to a ticket and small fine.

Enforcement of the rule would rely heavily on public complaints. District inspectors would provide a grace period for people to learn about the rule before any tickets are written.

"This isn't about tickets, but having the public participate in a wood smoke reduction strategy to protect public health," said Karen Schkolnick, a spokeswoman for the Bay Area Air Quality Management District. "Wood smoke accounts for 30 to 40 percent of the particulates on winter nights."

The proposal would exempt people who rely on wood fires to heat buildings and who have no access to other heating sources.

After holding seven public workshops this month, air district administrators will consider whether to revise the draft smoke rule before sending it on to the 22-member district air board, a group of city council members and county supervisors from throughout the Bay Area.

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: big; government; nanny; state
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Until now, the district has not regulated indoor burning of wood.

But then the Nanny Staters realized their mistake and began writing new regs to control yet another aspect of our miserable little lives.

This is only the camel's nose under the tent. Their real objective is to completely outlaw wood burning.

The paper today said that enforcement will depend on neighbors turning in neighbors. First fine will be $50, rising quickly to $1,000 for subsequent violations!

1 posted on 11/06/2007 10:12:38 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
It’s San Franfreeko, IMO I hope they ban everything. Liberals deserve no less.
2 posted on 11/06/2007 10:15:58 PM PST by chaos_5 (Fred & Hunter '08)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Denver has had this for decades. I’m not sure how much it reduces pollution, though. And the bay area doesn’t exactly get cold in the winter, so I wonder how many people use a fireplace anyway.


3 posted on 11/06/2007 10:22:59 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: chaos_5

While I basically agree with you, the problem is-everything they pass out there spreads across the rest of the country slowly like a cancer.


4 posted on 11/06/2007 10:24:36 PM PST by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney ("Vote Hillary - the unanimous choice of vacuous Liberal newsreaders!")
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To: The Ghost of Rudy McRomney
Yeah, but sooner or later people are going to get sick of it and say enough is enough. Just keep on piling on the straws, the camels back is bowed.

The only thing that may save wood fire places is a good stiff carbon tax... for the children.

5 posted on 11/06/2007 10:29:05 PM PST by chaos_5 (Fred & Hunter '08)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

We have enforcement of this in my town. The Air Board NAZI”S actually drive around whith heat guns detecting heat in chimeneys.


6 posted on 11/06/2007 10:29:20 PM PST by umgud (the profound is only so to those that it is)
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We have enforcement of this in my town. The Air Board NAZI”S actually drive around whith heat guns detecting heat in chimeneys.

Are they capable of detecting warm gun barrels?

Just curious.

7 posted on 11/06/2007 10:34:07 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (No buy China!!)
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To: umgud
>>We have enforcement of this in my town. The Air Board NAZI”S actually drive around whith heat guns detecting heat in chimeneys.<<

And they will wonder why someone starts shooting randomly from the clock tower...

I AM SO SICK OF THESE FREEKIN LIBERAL SCUM BAGS!

Dang, they tick me off.

I can see the news real now, some sniveling brat looking pathetic as his illegal alien mommy whines on about his asthma and how they need to stop burning all this wood and drowning polar bears.

8 posted on 11/06/2007 10:36:17 PM PST by chaos_5 (Fred & Hunter '08)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
I have 10 cords of wood stacked on the basketball court. I watched Enter the Dragon on HD-DVD while sitting in front of a cozy fire. I don't miss California at all.
9 posted on 11/06/2007 10:43:13 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Vince Ferrer

I guess my $1100 heating bill last January was because of all my computers running day and night. True, it’s not seriously cold like in Minnesota or somewhere, but people use their fireplaces all winter. On a still day with no wind, there is a blue haze hanging over the valleys from all the wood smoke. It’s always seemed very ironic to me that the same liberals who want to ban smoking, are oblivious to the pollution from their precious fireplaces. This is one law I would like to see passed.


10 posted on 11/06/2007 10:55:11 PM PST by giotto
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
That the liberals stand for protecting civil liberties is a claim I place on par with Islam being the religion of peace. What a bunch of commie totalitarians.
11 posted on 11/06/2007 10:57:06 PM PST by americanophile
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Their real objective is to completely outlaw wood burning.

Correct. The sponsors of the NRDC want to sell more natural gas at higher prices. They don't give a crap about an overstocked forest.

12 posted on 11/06/2007 11:03:26 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
There were times in this country when wood and coal were the principle energy sources in the home. Such baked the bread, boiled the water and kept the family from freezing in the winter. The chief causes of death were influenza, diphtheria, and lung disease in the form of tuberculosis. Child birth was another leading cause. I am sure the air quality in the 18th century home was no better than the cave when early man used fire to keep warm. Man has inhaled wood smoke for eons. There has been little concern for lung disease from such smoke until we have allowed socialists with the desire to control people’s lives to exist.
13 posted on 11/06/2007 11:09:05 PM PST by jonrick46
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I am lighting an extra huge fire in the fireplace tonight ... I don’t care if I have to don shorts and run the AC to keep it comfortable in the house. Damn these nannystaters!


17 posted on 11/07/2007 7:45:06 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: chaos_5

If my friends in the health care professions are correct, anal intercourse carries with it a much greater health risk than wood-burning fireplaces.


19 posted on 11/07/2007 8:23:48 AM PST by lady lawyer
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Bizarre. I heat primarily with wood, and as a result offset the use of at least 700 gallons of heating oil. This season it’s going to be especially nice not to see the delivery truck in my driveway.

My stove runs 24/7 from November through March, and it only smokes if I put too much wood on a low fire, which is rare.

Wood. Good for America, good for your pocket.


20 posted on 11/07/2007 8:45:47 AM PST by Jack of all Trades (Connecticut deserves a Castle Doctrine.)
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