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Nebraska School District Bans Christian Group After Bobbing for Live Goldfish
Fox News ^ | November 6, 2007 | Staff

Posted on 11/07/2007 8:25:32 AM PST by Turret Gunner A20

LINCOLN, Neb. — A Christian student group's latest attempt to show middle school students how fun the group could be was too much for school administrators to swallow.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Nebraska
KEYWORDS: christianity; christianstudents; godfish; nebraska; publicschools; religiousfreedom
I don't know who is the dumbest -- the school administrators for banning the group over such childish nonsense, or the joker who wrote that headline that leaves us with some unanswered questions, i.e.,

1. Exactly who was bobbing for the live goldfish, the kids or the administrators?
2. If it was the kids, did anyone get seriously injured or ill?
3. Were the kids reported to the SPCA for cruelty to the fish? If not, why not? (How would you like to be swallowed whole? I don't think Jonah thought much of the experience.)
4. If it was the administrators doing the bobbing, they should have known beforehand that swallowing live fish isn't all that much fun. And, why take it out on the kids?

Why doesn't somebody tell us these thing, instead of leaving us on tinterhooks (sp)? It's enough to drive one to distraction. (wherever that is)

1 posted on 11/07/2007 8:25:33 AM PST by Turret Gunner A20
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To: Turret Gunner A20
The fish is a Christian symbol. We can't have that in Red State Nebraska. No sir!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 11/07/2007 8:26:37 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Godfish???

LOL at the keyword....


3 posted on 11/07/2007 8:28:39 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Turret Gunner A20
"We just felt like that type of action was distracting to the students and interfered with the learning process," Virgil Horne, assistant to the superintendent, told the Lincoln Journal Star.

This type of action is only distracting if they are doing it in class. Idiots. The lot of them.

4 posted on 11/07/2007 8:30:42 AM PST by Jaded ("I have a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use it."- Joseph Ratzinger)
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To: Turret Gunner A20
"We just felt like that type of action was distracting to the students and interfered with the learning process,"

To the contrary, Iv'e always heard fish was a "brain food".

5 posted on 11/07/2007 8:30:54 AM PST by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Godfish??? LOL at the keyword.... I was referring to the one that swallowed Jonah. **that's as good an excuse for a blooper as any**
6 posted on 11/07/2007 8:33:26 AM PST by Turret Gunner A20
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Suuuure...


7 posted on 11/07/2007 8:34:29 AM PST by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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To: Jaded
Who said they were doing it in class.

And besides, being distracted from some of the crap they teach in school nowadays may very well be a good thing.

8 posted on 11/07/2007 8:36:31 AM PST by Turret Gunner A20
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To: Turret Gunner A20

YUCK!!!


9 posted on 11/07/2007 8:41:37 AM PST by Morgana (We Are... Marshall!!)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

The group leader. I’ve gone rounds and rounds with a youth group leader with a real stupid idea that “JackA**” style stunts and disgusting “games” that often involve humilating or gross features is a way to be relevant and attractive to youth.

Doesn’t seem to understand that aping Hollywood pop culture in debauching youth isn’t what the group is about.


10 posted on 11/07/2007 8:42:55 AM PST by Valpal1 ("I know the fittest have not survived when I watch Congress on CSPAN.")
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To: Turret Gunner A20; martin_fierro

Tenterhooks. (Hooks used in clothmaking to stretch cloth during the fulling/dyeing process. Like the hooks that hold the canvas taut on a camp cot.)

I assume the district officials got roaring drunk, swallowed goldfish, and then (oxygen-deprived?) banned the Christian group.

Fascinating illustration of the evils of Strong Drink!


11 posted on 11/07/2007 8:52:42 AM PST by Tax-chick ("How inscrutable are His judgments and how unsearchable His ways!")
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To: Tax-chick

It doesn’t say if the parents complained about the goldfish or about the Christian group being there in the first place.


12 posted on 11/07/2007 8:57:13 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Tax-chick
Tenterhooks. (Hooks used in clothmaking to stretch cloth during the fulling/dyeing process. Like the hooks that hold the canvas taut on a camp cot.)

It's always good to find a fellow etymology nerd. Do "free reign" and "baited breath" grit your teeth as much as they do mine?

13 posted on 11/07/2007 8:58:11 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: ReignOfError; Ryan Spock; TheMom; TChris; Xenalyte; Semper Vigilantis; georgiadevildog; ...
Do "free reign" and "baited breath" grit your teeth as much as they do mine?

Oh, yes. Right up there with "peeked his interest" and "hoard of people." I have a Verbal Mayhem ping list, if you'd like to be on it.

(Ping, y'all. Fish-swallowing school district!)

14 posted on 11/07/2007 9:02:42 AM PST by Tax-chick ("How inscrutable are His judgments and how unsearchable His ways!")
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Goldfish swallowing is a stunt dating back at least to the ‘20s. Is it cruel? I don’t know enough abut the cognitive functions of tetras to know whether they suffer. But it’s a stunt, it’s disruptive and not productive, and it has no place in the school day.

I’m at a complete loss as to what point the Christian group was making with this exercise — unless it’s “we’re as freaky as a Marilyn Manson concert, therefore we must be as much fun, and our show is a lot cheaper.”


15 posted on 11/07/2007 9:07:10 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: Tax-chick
I have a Verbal Mayhem ping list, if you'd like to be on it.

Count me in.

16 posted on 11/07/2007 9:08:28 AM PST by Turret Gunner A20
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To: Tax-chick
>>>Do "free reign" and "baited breath" grit your teeth as much as they do mine?

Oh, yes. Right up there with "peeked his interest" and "hoard of people."

Each of those is a good case and point.

I have a Verbal Mayhem ping list, if you'd like to be on it.

Yes, please. I come from four generations of writers -- I haven't finished a book, but I have bylines, and I figure that counts -- and I was raised to believe that proper use and understanding of language is important.

17 posted on 11/07/2007 9:15:56 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: ReignOfError

I remember my dad telling us about goldfish bobbing in his younger days. He would have been 100 this year. He said it was harder than apple bobbing because the little critters wouldn’t stay still.


18 posted on 11/07/2007 9:16:58 AM PST by Alice in Wonderland (Hey, Rudy, remember Neponsit?)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Godfish???

You know, them little chrome thingies on the backs of cars. They're cross-eyed, too.

19 posted on 11/07/2007 9:21:55 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Turret Gunner A20
"How would you like to be swallowed whole? I don't think Jonah thought much of the experience."

You mean like by a fish when you're diving for clams? Depends on the size of the whale.

20 posted on 11/07/2007 9:24:55 AM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: Alice in Wonderland
I remember my dad telling us about goldfish bobbing in his younger days. He would have been 100 this year. He said it was harder than apple bobbing because the little critters wouldn’t stay still.

Yeah, but they're a whole lot easier to swallow whole.

21 posted on 11/07/2007 9:25:02 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: ReignOfError
I remember those days -- the late 20s and up to WWII when that was the thing for college kids to do. I don't remember the school administrators complaining that it disrupted anything. I also never heard of it's being done on class time.

And, I am at a loss as to just what it disrupts, what harm is done and to whom. While I never indulged in that particular activity, I'm not too old to remember some of the harmless, asinine things I thought were fun when I was young -- much to the disgust of some of the old fogies who go through life denying their youthful folly, and looking down their noses in envy at those who still have what they have lost.

Sounds like the proverbial tempest/teapot foolishness to me.

22 posted on 11/07/2007 9:25:15 AM PST by Turret Gunner A20
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To: spunkets

It wasn’t a whale.


23 posted on 11/07/2007 9:26:07 AM PST by Turret Gunner A20
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To: Tax-chick
I assume the district officials got roaring drunk, swallowed goldfish, and then (oxygen-deprived?) banned the Christian group.

Maybe it's bobbing for live goldfish, that should be banned, since school administrators immediately being infringing upon freedom of religion, once they get a few in them, lol?

24 posted on 11/07/2007 9:26:51 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry
Ha. Ha.

You said thingies.

OK...what is a "thingy"

25 posted on 11/07/2007 9:29:35 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd
I said them little chrome thingies, to be precise, thank you very much!
26 posted on 11/07/2007 9:34:44 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Tax-chick

Please add me. Your use of “verbal” reminded me of one of my pet peeves. So many people confuse it with “oral”.


27 posted on 11/07/2007 9:38:22 AM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Tax-chick
Oh, and people who can’t seem to figure out whether to use the subjective or objective form of a pronoun in a compound subject or object.

And those who think “me” is a poor cousin to “I”, even when used individually.

28 posted on 11/07/2007 9:43:05 AM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Turret Gunner A20
Exactly who was bobbing

Was Monica there?

29 posted on 11/07/2007 9:46:25 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (I could be Agent "HT")
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To: ReignOfError
Yes, they do.

Carolyn

30 posted on 11/07/2007 9:55:05 AM PST by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Think of it as ‘free range’ sushi.


31 posted on 11/07/2007 10:15:01 AM PST by PAR35
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To: Tax-chick
I have a Verbal Mayhem ping list

Please add me to your ping list.

32 posted on 11/07/2007 10:17:35 AM PST by PAR35
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Once I helped a Christian group on campus set up ‘fish pong’ as an outreach activity, the premise being that if you were able to make a pong shot in three tries, you got to take home a 12-cent ‘feeder’ goldfish from petco, and a piece of paper with fish-care instructions and a little note about our group’s meeting time and place. It was a huge hit - at the end of the day we only had about a dozen fish left, so we wandered around campus and it took about five minutes to give them away. Ironically, we were more worried about getting in trouble for the throwing-balls-into-red-platic-cups part of the game than the fact that we were indiscriminately giving away live fish.


33 posted on 11/07/2007 10:46:45 AM PST by Hyzenthlay (Halo 3 is making me realise that Microsoft is not entirely evil.)
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To: Tax-chick

Verbal mayhem ping list? Sounds intristin’, could you add me to the ping list? Thanks.


34 posted on 11/07/2007 11:02:20 AM PST by skepsel
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To: Ryan Spock; TheMom; TChris; Xenalyte; Semper Vigilantis; georgiadevildog; Chad Fairbanks; ...

The Typso and Allied Verbal Outrages Ping List welcomes new members: ReignOfError, Turret Gunner A20, Still Thinking, PAR35, and skepsel.

Please remember to ping me to interesting Typso or fish-swallowing school boards. (Swallowing fish would be less harmful than most of what MY county school board does, but I digress.) You can also copy the list from the bottom of the Tax-chick page and ping ‘em yourselves, if I’m not available.


35 posted on 11/07/2007 11:22:01 AM PST by Tax-chick ("How inscrutable are His judgments and how unsearchable His ways!")
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To: Tax-chick

Please add me to the Verbal Mayhem list


36 posted on 11/07/2007 11:30:20 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ('for all intensive purposes")
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To: ReignOfError
Do "free reign" and "baited breath" grit your teeth as much as they do mine?
Reign refers to a ruler; rein (without the "g") refers to control, as of an animal - especially a horse. Thus, having "free rein" means being uncontrolled. I see nothing untoward about that, myself.

Similarly, "bate" means

  1. To lessen the force or intensity of; moderate: "To his dying day he bated his breath a little when he told the story" George Eliot.
  2. To take away; subtract.
What is wrong with that? </stickler mode>

37 posted on 11/07/2007 12:01:43 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Done.


38 posted on 11/07/2007 12:15:03 PM PST by Tax-chick ("How inscrutable are His judgments and how unsearchable His ways!")
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To: ReignOfError

“. . . it’s a stunt, it’s disruptive and not productive . . .”

Sounds like the math curriculum my wife is saddled with teaching this year.


39 posted on 11/07/2007 12:44:40 PM PST by Arm_Bears (See Rock City!)
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To: Tax-chick; ReignOfError

Don’t forget “sight,” as in “FR is just about my favorite Web sight.”


40 posted on 11/07/2007 1:45:37 PM PST by Xenalyte (Can you count, suckas? I say the future is ours . . . if you can count.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

There’s nothing wrong with “free rein” and “bated breath”. Using the wrong homophone is a whole ‘nother thing.


41 posted on 11/07/2007 3:08:24 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Hmmmm the public schools banned dodge ball .. but they didn’t ban gym class

With that said ... this was a stupid game they played


42 posted on 11/07/2007 3:11:25 PM PST by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Xenalyte

I have my destination in site!


43 posted on 11/07/2007 3:47:53 PM PST by Tax-chick ("How inscrutable are His judgments and how unsearchable His ways!")
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To: Xenalyte

And I read ‘boarder’ here more often than I read ‘border’ when border is clearly what is intended by context.


44 posted on 11/07/2007 4:31:06 PM PST by DancesWithBolsheviks (Peace through victory.)
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