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McCarthyism: The Rosetta Stone Of Liberal Lies (Ann Coulter Upsets Liberals Again Alert)
Ann Coulter.com ^ | 11/07/2007 | Ann Coulter

Posted on 11/07/2007 3:22:31 PM PST by goldstategop

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To: goldstategop

Just went to my local Barnes and Noble to buy the new book. After unsuccessfully looking for it, I asked the young girl at the counter where I could find it. She looked it up on the computer and told me they had no copies. I asked when they would arrive and she told me they were not getting any in. Staring at a huge stack of Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter’s books, I told her I didn’t understand why they had so many of those and none of the other. You can go take it up with someone else she said and turned away. Typical lib garbage still after 50+ years. Oh well, Amazon has it cheaper anyways.


61 posted on 11/07/2007 6:56:33 PM PST by dwg2
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To: Balding_Eagle
I agree. We are also very fortunate to have M. Stanton Evans. That's the source of Ann's research for her book.

He has been plugging away on this issue for many years.

62 posted on 11/07/2007 6:57:02 PM PST by Abcdefg
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Interesting Info. Makes all the sense in the world.....


63 posted on 11/07/2007 6:58:00 PM PST by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: Plutarch
Didn't McCarthy die from cirrhosis or another complication of alcoholism?

I seem to recall hepatitis.

64 posted on 11/07/2007 7:15:24 PM PST by Albion Wilde (America: “the most benign hegemon in history.”—Mark Steyn)
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To: AndyTheBear

Well said.


65 posted on 11/07/2007 7:19:15 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: Plutarch; rebooted

perjury


66 posted on 11/07/2007 7:21:40 PM PST by Albion Wilde (America: “the most benign hegemon in history.”—Mark Steyn)
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To: goldstategop
Once more, Ann coins a phrase guaranteed to cause hysteria: "There were no "McCarthyites" until liberals came along."

This was such a good article, I feel compelled to post multiple pictures of Ann:


67 posted on 11/07/2007 7:28:39 PM PST by Forgiven_Sinner (The most incomprehensible thing about the universe is that it is at all comprehensible.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

where does your information come from? Is it in the book mentioned here?


68 posted on 11/07/2007 7:43:04 PM PST by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: fish hawk

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a00f5fb38b0.htm


69 posted on 11/07/2007 7:45:19 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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To: goldstategop

INTREP!


70 posted on 11/07/2007 8:21:02 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Will read. Thank you and much Aloha.


71 posted on 11/07/2007 8:25:44 PM PST by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: peggybac

How did this confuse you? Rush is a boomer, and he slams them all the time. I’m a boomer, and a lot of his criticism is valid, although I think we were only “the most self-centered generation in history” until the next generation came along. The youngest generation is always the most self-centered.


72 posted on 11/07/2007 8:39:38 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: ozzymandus

What confused me was she kept saying, “them” when she should have said, “us.” I know it’s no big deal but it kind of made me wonder. I wish I could remember exactly what she said but I can’t remember what I had for dinner!


73 posted on 11/07/2007 8:56:10 PM PST by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: goldstategop; HuntsvilleTxVeteran; DoughtyOne; facedown; Yardstick; basil; Plutarch; ...

Waves of immigrants who came to the USA from 1880-1920: the poles the italians the irish the jews. Most of them voted for FDR by large majorities in 1932, 1936 & 1940. Today only the jews still vote democratic by hefty majorities. Why? The reason for this dates explicitly to the McCarthy period from 1950-54. The reason this is so is because Hollywood still strenuously maintains the communist lie about that era. This lie is maintained by movies in the last years called “A Beautiful Mind,” and “Good Night and Good Luck”.

There are various reasons given as to why Stalin initiated the Doctor’s Plot in the early 1950’s before he died. The KGB hated Israel. Many Americans who were enthusiastic supporters of the UN were Jewish.

Edvard Radzinsky in his book “Stalin” argues that while at one time Stalin hoped Jewish financial capital would help rebuild the Soviet Union after the WWII, Stalin hated the prospect of suborning himself to the Baruch Plan and he flat out rejected IAEA nuclear controls—presented in 1946. The Russians were working on their own abomb based on stolen US designs. (Stalin’s attitude is not entirely dissimliar to that of Iran today.) The Russian Communist party was so top heavy with Jews-Stalin himself a Geogian—wanted to insure that the Russians saw a Russian face to the the communist party.

Whatever the reason, Stalin fomented the Doctor’s plot hysteria and broke off diplomatic relations with Israel. He was within days of preparing to exile the Soviet Jews to the Gulag (as was done previously with various other ethnic minorities such as the Crimean Tatars, Chechens, etc.), and initiate another great purge along the lines of 1938.

The important thing to recall is that the Doctor’s Plot happened at the same time as the McCarthy anti communist business from 1950-54

Stalin already had the concentration camps set up. And some of the preliminary accusations had gone out for the Doctor’s Plot.100 or so Russian jews had already been executed when he died in 1953.

At the same time the Rosenburgs were tried and executed for treason in the USA in 1953—and this less than a decade after the Holocaust. This naturally caused fear and suspicion in the US Jewish community. This fear and suspicion was played upon by knowledgeable communists and leftists—large numbers of whom were jewish. These folk not only knew about what Stalin had done in the 1930’s and was about to do with the doctor’s plot—before he died— but also saw the McCarthy trials as show trials american style ... that is, a prelude to an american pogrom. —For which the rosenbergs were exhibit A.

What Stalin had planned to do— in a brilliant piece of jujitsu —leftists and communists imputed to Americans on the right. But it was done soto voce. Basically a blood libel was perpetrated on Americans without their knowing it. Worse, protestant america were painted as tribal enemies tooth and claw of the US jewish establishment without protestant america even knowing it. Never again! — Was the battle cry. But there weren’t any such enemies of Jews in the USA. If there were protestant tribal enemies in the USA — Meyer Kahane would have provoked them into a bloodletting. Why? Because he heard the same thing as everyone else. He also heard about enemies of the jews in the heartland. When he went to give battle, the only sorts of fights the JDL could find resulted in unintelligible court disputes in places like Idaho. In the end, Kahane married an american woman & helped expedite Stalin’s last wish—to rid Russia of Jews. When the american woman committed suicide Kahane lost interest in the USA and focused instead on Israel. When Kahane — died it was at the hands of a Moslem in 1990.

While the American public outside NY/LA were generally given the view that the McCarthy era was an age when innocent men were unjustly tried by suspicious anti semites like McCarthy & Nixon—the NY/LA Jewish establishment was given a very different story. They were given to understand that the democrats/liberals had prevented the US from visiting a holocaust on them. And that therefor American Jews owed their loyalty to the liberal democrats because the liberal democrats were the protectors of the Jews.

And this Meme went on untouched for decades after McCarthy.
This dual track story line didn’t crack until the early 1990’s when the kgb/nkvd/gru opened up their files on the WWII-McCarthy Period. In 1995 the US’s NSA agency opened up their Venona files. Both Russian and American spy agency files showed that McCarthy was right. The US government —as well as the Manhattan Project—had been at one time soaked with Russian Spies. The Rosenburgs were guilty. While McCarthy was wrong in most the details he got the general outline of the story right. Why did McCarthy get the outline right and the details wrong? The reason is McCarthy’s relationship to Hoover was the same as Hoover’s relationship to the NSA.The NSA told the FBI about the Venona intercepts but insisted that the FBI could not use NSA intercepts as evidence in court. The FBI had to develop their own leads. As a result most of the spies escaped prosecution. The FBI did not get their man.

In 1950 J Edgar Hoover began weekly meetings with Joseph McCarthy. Those meetings ended in 1954. The beginning and end of those meetings coincided with the beginning and end of McCarthy star turn in the national spot light. McCarthy got most of the details of the spy story wrong but he got the general outline of the story right. His predicament was the same as that of the FBI. Whatever Hoover told him—McCarthy could not use in the senate hearings. To this day the FBI denies that Hoover told McCarthy anything about the Venona Cables and maybe Hoover said nothing explicit to McCarthy for which Hoover could be liable in court.

Needless to say, an American style shoah was never in the cards.

The reason that hollywood hated Ronald Reagan so much was that he was an anti communist in hollywood during the McCarthy period. During this period to be staunchly anti communist in Hollywood or NYC was to be at least vaguely anti semitic because in the 30’s to the 50’s communism was considered to be almost a secular form of Judaism in the Jewish communities of NY/LA. Why? In Russia, communism was a way to get ahead for the jews. As well, there was a biblical antecedent for jewish communists in the bible in the person of Joseph in Egypt. Why? Because the relationship between jews to joseph’s Egypt maps over well to jews in Russia. And the history of the jews from Joseph to Moses looks very similar to the rise to prominence of many jews in the soviet communist bureaucracy from the 1917-1970 and the decades long expulsion of Russia’s jews after 1970 when it became clear that communism was not working. The Russians blamed Russian jews for the failure of communism.

Reagan was among the first wave of FDR democrats to switch parties. Reagan’s star turn in Hollywood ended after McCarthy. However, his experiences in Hollywood served him well when he went into public service. He always understood the jujitsu of media talk of the age. Something that cannot be said of Nixon.

When I hear American based Moslems talking about McCarthyism being visited on them. I have to laugh. They don’t know that they have pronounced themselves guilty in the eyes of many Americans.
The history of the McCarthy period now is forgotten among american jews except for the vague idea that somehow republicans are bad and somehow democrats are good.

As for the democrats, part of the reason for the loss of their inner coherence in the last decade —has been that part their foundational raison d’être stemming from the McCarthy era was revealed to be based on a lie. So now the core of the democratic party is the sodomites. Those folks are not just confusing. They are confused.

David Horowitz interviewed by Rush Limbaugh a couple months ago talked about how his parents were communists and he was a communist in college. He said when he was in college his views were always treated respectfully by his professors. But he said recently a young christian college student told him that his homosexual college professor had singled him out in class and asked him “Why do you christians hate queers.” Asked why he continued to do what he did in the face of all the abuse he gets, David Horowitz said like Rush he took public political positions because he had to. But also he said he did it as a matter of atonement.

He gets it.

Venona Historical Writings that include comparisons of venona and russian spy lists and the changing venona story in the academy.
http://www.johnearlhaynes.org/page43.html
http://www.johnearlhaynes.org/index.html


74 posted on 11/07/2007 9:10:01 PM PST by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer

Great post thank you.


75 posted on 11/07/2007 9:29:45 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: ckilmer; Jim Robinson
That is one fascinating post! I'm glad you pinged me to it, and I'm so impressed that I am presuming to ping Jim Robinson to it. Highly informative; makes sense of a lot of things.

I respectfully suggest that you edit it one more time, to make it flow just slightly better in a couple of places, then post it as an article. And, of course, ping me to it when you do.


76 posted on 11/08/2007 3:01:52 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: supremedoctrine

I agree: Treason is one heck of a great book. I suspect that Stanton Evans’ “Blacklisted by History: The Untold Story of Senator Joe McCarthy and His Fight Against America’s Enemies.” is more like a history text book. Whatever, I will have to check this out, and I’m likely to buy it. If I don’t buy it, I’ll be asking my public library to acquire it.


77 posted on 11/08/2007 3:10:43 AM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: goldstategop
Blacklisted by History: The Untold Story of Senator Joe McCarthy and His Fight Against America's Enemies
Blacklisted by History: The Untold Story of Senator Joe McCarthy and His Fight Against America's Enemies

78 posted on 11/08/2007 3:24:59 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: rebooted; HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Trygve Lie of Norway becomes first Secretary-General.

Looks like rebooted is correct. The above is from the UN site - http://www.un.org/aboutun/milestones.htm.

79 posted on 11/08/2007 4:14:25 AM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: IronJack

I think what Ann is saying is that this guy - Evans - has uncovered facts concerning McCarthy that are different than what is printed about him. I remember in Treason, she wrote that when she was researching McCarthy, she found out that newspapers would use as sources what other newspapers wrote. That she would have to dig and dig to try to uncover the original source, which in fact turned out to something somone made up. I think what Ann is saying about this new book is that what we post and state about McCarthy are in fact, the lies printed about him in over fifty years of the liberals smearing him.


80 posted on 11/08/2007 4:20:05 AM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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