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Cholesterol-lowering drug linked to sleep disruptions
EurekAlert ^ | 7-Nov-2007 | Edwin K. Kwon, B.A.; Michael H. Criqui, M.D., M.P.H.; and Joel E. Dimsdale, M.D.

Posted on 11/07/2007 10:03:13 PM PST by crazyshrink

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To: crazyshrink

Why do so many people take statins? Isn’t there new research out there that says heart attacks come from something other than high cholesterol now? I thought that connection was not still thought to be so causal.


21 posted on 11/07/2007 11:49:47 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: crazyshrink

Maybe Lipidil would be better for you, not that it doesn’t come with it’s own list of possible side effects. I’ve had some problems with it, but they’ve diminished.


22 posted on 11/07/2007 11:52:44 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Yaelle

Drs are sold on it and the drug cos give them free starter packs to give to patients for a free trial. Then most are hooked by the low blood readings and the fear of going off them.


23 posted on 11/07/2007 11:53:59 PM PST by Bobibutu
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To: Bobibutu

I know, but it’s frustrating — people getting excited about blood levels going down for something that might not have harmed them at all.

My grandmother had high cholesterol (and so does my whole family) but she died peacefully at 96. We have no heart problems of any kind in the whole family but we simply tend to high cholesterol.


24 posted on 11/07/2007 11:56:56 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: maine-iac7

You can also mess yourself up real good self medicating with “natural” remedies, many of which can cause severe interactions with other “natural” remedies or prescription drugs.

I’m not saying you shouldn’t try them if you think they help you, but be very careful and look up what the active ingredient in them that is supposed to help your condition is, and make sure it doesn’t react with anything else you may be taking.

Sometimes you can find a herbal remedy that has the same active ingredient in it that the pharmaceutical does, and save yourself a pile of money.

You should never think however, that all pharmaceuticals are “bad” either. Many or most of them refine their active ingredients from plants as well, just in a more refined way.

Above all, don’t risk your life on something that is totaly unproven just because a couple of con artists promoting herbal remedies and “secrets from China”, (remember their life expectancy is well below ours in the west) there are a lot of snake oil salesmen out there.
Research, research and research some more before you try anything.


25 posted on 11/08/2007 12:09:29 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Yaelle

Depends on what type of cholesterols they are. LDL’s and triglycerides levels should not be too high, while HDL’s can be high, and may actually be a good thing.


26 posted on 11/08/2007 12:14:27 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: monkeyshine

I have taken Lipitor for several years and I sleep like a rock 95% of the time. I also have been gaining weight for years before, but I have been able to lose 40 pounds over the past 8 months.


27 posted on 11/08/2007 3:30:54 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Yaelle
Isn’t there new research out there that says heart attacks come from something other than high cholesterol now?

You are correct. High cholesterol is only an easily measurable "proxy indicator" - it doesn't actually correlate to health and physical well-being.

Statins do nothing for you - and plenty that is quite bad for you.

28 posted on 11/08/2007 3:33:16 AM PST by agere_contra (Do not confuse the wealth of nations with the wealth of government - FDT)
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To: maine-iac7

Here’s the snope on Tryptophan.

http://www.snopes.com/food/ingredient/turkey.asp

There are several reason it is probably not what makes you sleepy after a Thanksgiving turkey.


29 posted on 11/08/2007 3:35:42 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: agere_contra

ping


30 posted on 11/08/2007 4:03:04 AM PST by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: crazyshrink
Simvastatin = Lipitor, Zocor

Pravastatin = Pravachol

FWIW, I take lipitor, and haven't noticed any problems.

31 posted on 11/08/2007 4:22:02 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: Right Wing Assault
A few points of discussion:

1) I was put on Mevacor (lovastatin) over 20 years ago by my primary physician-an MD in Cardiology. At the time, he was a teaching professor at the University of Miami at Jackson Hospital. He said it was a miracle drug—like aspirin.

2) The effects have been the subject of Scandinavian studies for 30 years—all good.

3) Statins remove plaque from your arteries and veins—including those in your brain—delaying the onset of Alzheimer's.

4) Mevacor is available at WalMart for $3 per prescription, and should be double the dose of your Lipitor. Lipitor's patent runs out soon and should also be available at WalMart.

5) Once, when I selected Pravacol instead of Mevacor, I suffered with indigestion—which lead to antacids—which lead to kidney stones! No more antacids for me!

6) When I voluntarily switched to 20mg (from 10mg), my sleep pattern changed to only 5 or 6 hours duration; however, I get "instant sleep" at bedtime. Retired, I still get my eight hours through naps.

Check out Science Weekly articles.

I'm convinced it's good.

:)

32 posted on 11/08/2007 4:24:59 AM PST by Does so (...against all enemies, DOMESTIC and foreign...)
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To: Yaelle; agere_contra
"Why do so many people take statins? Isn’t there new research out there that says heart attacks come from something other than high cholesterol now?"

This is correct. TOTAL cholesterol is only a general indicator--the culprit is "low-density lipoproteins", which is exactly what the statins reduce.

"Statins do nothing for you - and plenty that is quite bad for you."

Wrong. See above comment about LDL. Some few people have bad side affects, most of which can be avoided by supplementing with CoQ10 along with the statin. Once I started Lipitor, my LDL's dropped from around 180 to 65. I've had zero problems with it (I was already taking a CoQ10 supplement before starting the Lipitor).

33 posted on 11/08/2007 4:28:13 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: Does so
I'm convinced it's good.

Works for me, too.

34 posted on 11/08/2007 4:43:30 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Cobra64

“You’re so cool, Brewster!”


35 posted on 11/08/2007 6:49:16 AM PST by sinanju
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To: maine-iac7

“Lots of ways to get HEALTHY sleep = I tried Valerian for a bit - grows wild in the fields. It works, but it smells like dirty gym socks -”

______________________________________________________________

An old friend recommended Valerian to me. I got some capsules, I guess it works, but I’m betting that if Animal Planet or the Discovery Channel ever does a “Most Extreme” episode on the natural world’s smelliest substances, lo’ Valerian’s name will outshine all the rest.


36 posted on 11/08/2007 6:53:54 AM PST by sinanju
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To: Cobra64

“Aimeeeeeee...!”


37 posted on 11/08/2007 6:54:31 AM PST by sinanju
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To: no dems
"What about Lovastatin? That’s what I take. Can anyone enlighten me?"

That's the one that causes all your lovas you were with during the night to disappear upon waking.

38 posted on 11/08/2007 6:58:44 AM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: Cobra64
What do you wash it down with?

Simvastatin + beer = sleep.
39 posted on 11/08/2007 7:00:31 AM PST by evets (beer)
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To: Bobibutu
The Niacin flush can be lessened or eliminated by taking it with food.

I take 1000mg with no flush. One asperin 45 min prior stops all nasty effects.

40 posted on 11/08/2007 7:01:19 AM PST by chesty_puller (70-73 USMC VietNam 75-79 US Army Wash DC....VietNam was safer.)
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