Posted on 11/08/2007 10:49:46 PM PST by dervish
PLEASE Help save Jerusalem
Please Contact President Bush at
"While Jerusalem is mentioned over eight hundred times in the Jewish Bible, it is not mentioned one time in the Koran. Moslems have had little or no interest in Jerusalem until the Jewish presence in modern times. It is all about the destruction of Israel.
The temple mount is Jewish and the Pali Arabs have set about to destroy it at an alarming rate. Here we see the systematic, maybe the biggest in the history of geology/archeology destruction of the most important artifacts for Christianity and Judaism. And the world knows nothing of this and does nothing about this.Nobody is permitted to go and see and watch whats happening. Excavators are working there. They are taking thousands and thousands of pounds and thousands of artifacts and simply thrown out. It is perhaps one the largest archeological catastrophes in history. Over at One Jerusalem.org: Listen Now! Dore Gold eloquently describes why Jerusalem must remain the united, undivided capital of the State of Israel. Click here to play.
The people of Israel must listen to Dr. Eldad.
Secretary of State Rice Consents to Divide Jerusalem
Watch this interview of Natan Sharansky and Benjamin Netanyahu on the importance of a united Jerusalem and the dangers of dividing it.
The United Coalition for Jerusalem
Emergency Campaign to Save Israel ! “If I Forget Thee O Jerusalem” By capitulating to foreign interests and to the tiny but powerful anti-Zionist Left in Israel, the government is shattering the social contract that is the source of its right to govern. By violating the foundational principles and norms of the Jewish State, this government has delegitimized itself.
At the “Munich Conference” in Annapolis, the prime minister intends:
-To establish an Arab terrorist state to be called Palestine; -To divide Jerusalem and give the Temple Mount to the Muslims; -To cede all of Judea and Samaria; -To give the enemy control of the mountain ridge overlooking “little Israel,” placing all the large population centers within range of Katusha rockets; -To expel hundreds of thousands of Jews from their homes and to destroy their communities.
THEY MUST BE STOPPED. Read it all.
UPDATE: Pim sent this:
(IsraelNN.com) A group of 150 Israeli citizens have filed a class action suit against the Moslems who run the Temple Mount site for having destroyed Jewish antiquities there.
The suit, brought by the Shurat HaDin Israel Law Center, charges that Islamic Waqf officials have engaged in the deliberate destruction of ancient Jewish relics on the Temple Mount. The indictment was filed in the Jerusalem District Court last week, and Shurat Hadin sources say it is the first of its kind in Israeli legal history.
Atty. Darshan-Leitner on Temple Mount suit Can't see audio player above? Click here to listen.
UPDATE: Israel's fate cannot be left to a crook who was just voted Israel's most corrupt politician.
It is amazing. The entire Hebrew Bible is basically about the land of Israel. The Muslims continue to deny Jewish historical facts and any Jewish connection to Israel, and yet Muslim scholars claim that the Hebrew prophets are also prophets of Islam, but the Bible is forged. I would have much greater respect for Muslims if they started to respect other peoples religions.
Well that’s the problem. They don’t respect anything non-Muslim - not people, not religion, not culture, nothing. If they did, they wouldn’t be at war with every other culture wherever they’re in contact.
I honestly think the best thing we could do to help Israel is to leave them the hell alone. In the name of this chimera called “peace”, we meddle in their affairs at every turn. Take the leash off and let them do what needs to be done. The world will be a better place for it.
Forget about Christians and Jews, the Muslims can’t even get along with their own as each thinks they are a part of the perfect sect, and must go about purifying the others.
I’ve always said, if Israel didn’t exist, the Muslims would destroy each other. The only thing that keeps them from ripping each other to shreds, is their collective hatred of the Jews.
Palestinian refugee camps are a farce brought on by lying scorpions that have merely one issue in mind, to rid the ME of all Jews
BTW shalom but first it seems there will be much more bloodshed and lies...unfortunately because the fools believe the Islamic rhetoric. Good Read, Dave Hunt's, Judgement Day. It would make any Jew, or Christian, or anyone interested in Israeli policy angry.
If Jews in Israel can’t stop it, what do you expect the US to do?
Don’t ask FReepers, most will say “nuke it” if Muslims are involved.
The UN is nothing but the diplomatic arm of our enemies in the guise of a neutral body. They are shills for China, Russia, radical Islam, and various tin-pot third world dictators. We derive no benefit whatsoever from our membership in that corrupt piece of sh!t organization. I would like to see it's leaders arrested and brought to trial for crimes against humanity. Their "peacekeeping" missions are nothing but an excuse for their reprobate degenerate employees to rape children and rob the populace of whichever country is unfortunate enough to have them within it's borders.
See #4.
Stop cowtowing to the muslims?!?!
Pray for the peace of Jerusalem. Psalm 122:6.
Pray.
We need to get the State Dept off of Israel’s back.
Don't waste your time on the politicians. They are what they are. And they are not God.
Yes, you are probably right unfortunately.
Absolutely! This problem didn’t begin with Israel becoming a state in 1948. It goes back hundreds of years.
America has always done more harm than good.
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Your are mistaken. The American people have been a force for great good in this world including the sponsorship of Israel..
Your mistake is to not recognize there is an evil entity who has seized a position of power in the international affairs of the United State...
It is called the US State Department and it is pure crap. Neither pro American, pro Israel or interested in defending America’s nor Israels interests.
Please see my comments on the Myanmar issue...they refer to Israel and the State Departments general incompetency with regard to several issues related to Jerusalem and Israel
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1923195/posts?page=3#3
W
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Posted by WLR to Wiz
On News/Activism ^ 11/09/2007 5:23:36 AM CST · 6 of 6 ^
Posted by Wiz when discussing Burma.
“It may be time for Rice to be removed from White House.”
my reply:
Most know I am relentless when I think Israel is in the wrong, mistreating either fellow Jews, taking for granted or failing in reciprocity with regards to it’s relationships with Christians and the United States..
I say that first so no one can accuse me of being a mindless booster for Israel or Judism..
The simple truth is you are completely right.
Rice should be removed from her position at the State Department for either her incompetence.. or her knowing betrayal of the West, the American peoples interests, Christendom, Israel and the Jewish People.
Jerusalem in the modern world belongs in the hands of the Jewish people.. Bethlehem and the other Christian Holy Cities belong under the protection of Israel. Israel belongs under what properly should be the fearsome protection of the United States in keeping with our American Christian Heritage and duty to defend Jews from annihilation at the hands of anyone.
I am sicked by the incompetence/ betrayal by the US State Department of America and America’s Allies. Israel being the most obviously betrayed right now.
The only explanation I can reach is there are Islamofacist Petro Dollars flowing thru Washington buying politicians and Administrations. America’s “Leaders” apparently are having a “Fire Sale”. Along with the West’s and America’s Security, Israeli and Jewish Security is for sale.
W
Good morning, haven't read your link yet but I will. When I re read my post it does sound like I take in all of America but I was mostly disturbed( and still am) by faulty US government intelligence, their idealisms in attempting to comply or create dopey peace treaties that would only weaken Israel and our government and the American medias reluctance or blindness to something aside from bias toward the alleged plight of the "Palestenian's...a name not very universal until around 1964.
To think the Arab nations that declared war on Israel and lied to the Arab people that populated Israel at the time would not give hope to any Arab refugee making the 650,000 homeless( when they PROMISED victory, support and they would toss Israel in the sea, Haj min Mohammed Husseini's line, Abd al-Rahman Abd al-Rauf Arafat al-Qudwa al-Husseini, a relation to his grandaddys cousin) also an international issue and also created this underlying policy of considering these folks the ultimate fools and losers, just tools in a political game...well, it sickens me to think our government falls for the BS hook line and sinker. Our government pulls the strings, puts time lines on Israel's war( i.e. the last one in Lebanon or the more recent bombing of the Syrian North Korean sponsored nuke plant) only to show a little fae( ??) to other Arab nations which finance terror( like Pelosi going to Syria, or the Saudi Wahabi boys financing the systematic slaughtering of 2,000,000 Christians in Sudan and other nations)
Now as for our people in America( me being one of them, my daughter is a Lt in the IDF) I believe we very much support Israel in many many ways and you are very right on. Though there is more anti-semitism than ever and we are becoming a duped Muslim friendly nation I do not believe ALL American's who have lived side by side with Jews, and know the plight of the history will stand idly by when Israel is attacked again, and again, and again. Yes, my blanket statement, " America has always done more harm than good," deserved attack and I am sorry for the poor wording in my post. I also agree Foggy Bottom has never been much of friend to Israel nor has the NSA( USS Liberty ship, wasn't Condi Rice the NSA CO?? of course one cannot draw parallels in time...) Now to read your link....wait, wait, NO MORE LAND FOR PEACE DEALS *whew* I just had to write that.
Liked your paragraph. I couldn't agree more. I'm also glad you somehow found I meant the American government, not the American people that seem more and more distant in regard to international, and especially Israeli policy.
I agree Shery, but it goes back more like thousands of years. In the modern version it could probably be said it goes back hundreds.
Why should Israel be treated as a defacto 51st state?
Oh really now, just who told you this? You need to not listen to what others claim and do your own personal study. Now exactly where in the Hebrew Bible do you find the land called Israel..... Israel was the name change of Jacob and when referencing Israel was about people NOT real estate and those of the House of Israel also know as Ten Tribes got a bill of divorcement from the Heavenly Father and got themselves scattered to the four corners of this globe. Part of their punishment for turning their backs on the Heavenly Father was they would NOT know who they are, even to this day.
Lets not put God in a box here...
And messages to President Bush will show up on some unseen report tally.
I think I will trust God to take care of His own, long before I trust “government” to do the right thing.
Israel should simply go in and kick their asses out of the Temple Mount area and let them sulk about it to the UN and the MSM.
I am currently taking a college course called Analysis of the Old Testament...I’ve read probably 500 pages so far and had 25 lectures with a visiting Professor of Jewish Biblical studies from columbia university. Every single story i have read and discussed has something to do with the land God gave to the Israelites. First it was called Canaan before they arrived, then the land was split into the Kingdom of Judah in the south, and the Kingdom if Israel in the north. My point is, is that a majority of the stories in the Hebrew Bible are about Jews being promised the land, conquering the land, living in the land, appointing kings to rule the land, being exiled from the land, hoping to return to the land, and being brought back to the land by God (via king Cyrus), etc, etc. My point is that Muslims deny any Jewish connection to the land currently called called Israel and Jerusalem, meanwhile the Koran doesnt even mention Jerusalem once.
Why should Israel be treated as a de-facto 51st state?
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Tough question..
I think your analogy/assessment? is correct though, they are a De-Facto 51st State and like the others half a bob off plumb.
I want to really give you a best effort in reply so I will work on it a while and get back to you.
W
The site I linked (Atlas Shrugs) is authored by an American Jew.
Here are more US Jewish responses:
“An unprecedented coalition of American Jewish groups has formed on short notice to ensure that united Jerusalem remains Jewish.
Among the member organizations are the National Council of Young Israel, the Orthodox Union, the Rabbinical Council of America, Emunah Women of America, AFSI, Hineni, AJOP (Outreach), NCSY, Poalei Agudath Israel of America, ZOA, and more. More organizations are set to join in the coming days.
The formation of the coalition marks the first time since the establishment of the State of Israel that a significant group of American Jewish organizations has united in opposition to Israeli government policy; many of the member organizations are among Israel’s most loyal and active supporters.”
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/124011
“The Zionist Organization of America (ZOA) has weighed in with its opinion of Vice Premier Chaim Ramon’s plan to give away major parts of Jerusalem to the Palestinian Authority.”
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/133513
As usual it appears that most of the US Jewish orgs are from the Orthodox (most religious)Jewish community. Where are the Conservative and Reformed orgs??
Genesis 12:7
Genesis 13:14-15
Genesis 15:18-21
Genesis 17:8
Genesis 26:3-5
Genesis 28:13-14
Genesis 35:11-12
Exodus 23:25-31
Deuteronomy 32:52
(just a sampling)
All they have to do is resist during this upcoming “peace conference” and Bushco and Riceco will soon be gone, then there will be a new administration who can be stonewalled for a couple of more years after that.
Thanks. If you can, let’s keep religion out of it. I’m Catholic but don’t believe US foreign affairs should be held hostage to the beliefs of apocalyptic Christians.
You have it backwards. Rice is treating Israel as US property by ordering concessions.
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"The West has given more significance to the myth of the genocide of the Jews, even more significant than God, religion, and the prophets...."—Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
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" ... It's time we recognized the nature of the conflict. It's total war and we are all involved. Nobody on our side is exempted because of age, gender, or handicap. The Islamofacists have stolen childhood from the world."—FReeper Retief
"Palestine is the wrong name for their State. It should be called Anarchy."—FReeper sgtbono2002
"Then let's wait and see what the Arabs do after they take Gaza. There's nothing like Arab reality to break up a Jewish fantasy."—FReeper Noachian
A student told his professor he was going to "Palestine" to "fight for freedom, peace and justice,"—Orwellian leftist code words that mean "murder Jews."
Either nuke Mecca or drop a few thousand hams all over the place. I hate to waste a good ham, but it would be for a very good cause.
Deuteronomy 31:16-21
Deuteronomy 34:16-21
AMEN
And the puppet master globalists pulling the mooselimbs strings.
Kinda hard to do, Bob...it's called The Holy Land...
I am quite confused with your postings. There are several passages where God curses and destroys Israel, and there are just as many passages where He blesses them, even after the idolatrous behavior that occured in books such as Judges.
Ezekiel 37, 39, Isaiah 40, 41, 45 are just some examples of post-exile redemption from God.
Also, Deuteronomy is actually a later book, and was not written before the exodus and not written by Moses himself.
*non-scholar hat on*......
G-d did NOT destroy the Israelites COMPLETELY. There has ALWAYS been a remnant left...no matter HOW angry He got over their sins.
Same with the Gentiles...it all, for each of us, comes back to man’s turning our back(s) on Him...
Where is Christ in the cry to save Jerusalem? Christ is the one that will return and rule with the rod of iron, and out of His mouth (His WORDS) went a twoedged sword:? Christ was there even in the Garden of Eden and the first prophecy given was about Him. So why is He missing there in that land this day? John 2:19 ..."Destroy this Temple, and in three days I will raise it up."
So why doesn’t Israel kick the rags out of there? What are they afraid of, a war?
That’s the problem, but our foreign affairs shouldn’t be subject to apocalyptic prophecies.
If they want our support and $$ it isn’t unfair to ask for something in return. If Israel can’t or won’t comply to with what we need, then they can go it alone.
You mean like Pakistan and Egypt for instance?
We can’t even get them to stop supporting terrorists and exporting nuclear tech.
Further, why in the world do we need to divide Jerusalem? How does supplying more terrorist territory serve US interests? How does becoming an appeaser of terror help us?
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