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Paul: My policy benefits Israel
JTA ^ | 11/8/2007 | staff

Posted on 11/09/2007 5:37:10 AM PST by George W. Bush

Paul: My policy benefits Israel

Republican presidential hopeful Ron Paul says his foreign policy would benefit Israel.

Mainstream Jewish groups have shunned Paul, a U.S. congressman from Texas upsetting his party's presidential field. His lonely anti-war candidacy, once thought of as a long shot, is now competitive with front-runners in fund raising.

Paul has long opposed defense and other assistance to Israel, a policy consistent with his opposition to all foreign aid. He also has said the pro-Israel lobby is too influential in Washington, another statement that is consistent with his disdain for foreign policy lobbying.

In a statement released Wednesday to JTA, the Paul campaign cast those beliefs in a pro-Israel light. It reads, in part:

"I do believe that our current policies toward Israel are doing more harm than good to those we profess to support. Our foreign military aid to Israel is actually more like corporate welfare to the U.S. military industrial complex, as Israel is forced to purchase only U.S. products with the assistance."

Paul said, "We have adopted a foreign policy that has left Israel surrounded by militaristic nations while undermining Israel’s sovereignty by demanding that its foreign and defense policies be essentially pre-approved in Washington."

He adds later, "The United States should take care of its own sovereignty while at the same time respecting the sovereignty of nations like Israel. That is the best way to preserve security and prosperity for all."



TOPICS: Israel; Politics/Elections
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JTA is a global news service covering items of interest to Jewish people around the world. They provide a great deal of coverage that often goes unnoticed in mainstream libmedia reporting.

I thought the article was interesting in that it conveys Ron Paul's message about the bad effects of our foreign policy to its "beneficiaries".

Naturally, Ron Paul opposes all foreign aid, not just aid to Israel. President Paul would not fund or arm Palistinians. He would not twist Israel's arm behind their backs to make another disastrous compromise of their own security and sovereignty for the sake of the so-called Palestinians. And he would try to cut off foreign aid around the world including the bogus "AIDS" crisis in Africa.

These supposed "compassionate" programs we sponsor are often a thin veneer for corporate welfare, for guaranteed sales for the military-industrial complex. As with "compassionate" food aid which rarely reaches the poor and starving, these programs are about control and about subsidies for U.S. interests, not the interests of those for whom we are supposedly so "compassionate".

1 posted on 11/09/2007 5:37:11 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: NapkinUser; DreamsofPolycarp; The_Eaglet; Irontank; Gamecock; elkfersupper; dcwusmc; gnarledmaw; ...

Ron Paul campaign website

Ron's weekly message [5 minutes audio, every Monday]
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Pro-Israel, pro-sovereignty ping.
2 posted on 11/09/2007 5:38:47 AM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: George W. Bush
Mark cut this guy up bad on his radio show yesterday.
3 posted on 11/09/2007 5:43:38 AM PST by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: George W. Bush
Paul said, "We have adopted a foreign policy that has left Israel surrounded by militaristic nations while undermining Israel’s sovereignty by demanding that its foreign and defense policies be essentially pre-approved in Washington."

This is absolutely true.

4 posted on 11/09/2007 5:50:46 AM PST by Sloth (Democrats and GOPers are to government what Jeffrey Dahmer and Michael Jackson are to babysitting)
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To: OKIEDOC
Mark who? Has he ever been elected to anything? Was he or his audience ever going to vote for Ron Paul to begin with?

So the obese bibber can huff and puff all he wants. We're not after his listeners anyway. Me, I greatly prefer Rush or Laura Ingraham who don't feel that having some puny radio show entitles them to tell me how to vote. Of course, if you're a cult member of one of these shows, I apologize if my opinions offend you. Wait, no, I guess I don't regret offending you after all.

If you want a picture of how Ron Paul could secure the nomination and win the White House, examine the results of Dr. Braun's win in Georgia's Tenth earlier this year. Braun, a self-described Ron Paul-style conservative and constitutionalist, beat the establishment favorite who was miles ahead of him in fundraising, party support, endorsements, etc. Robert Novak said the result of this eletion, the only midterm congressional election in '07, terrified D.C. Republicans.
5 posted on 11/09/2007 5:53:40 AM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: Sloth
I've said the same for years. We need to butt out of Israel's political and foreign policy.

The Palis are determined to make Israel's life miserable and, if possible, to participate in a genocide of Jews. Their leadership and all the other Arab leaders who wail about them constantly don't do hardly anything to actually support them, despite all the oil wealth in the region. Like Saddam or the Saudis, they only give money to Palis who suicide-bomb a bunch of Israeli women and children on a bus or something.

We need to let Israel deal with the Pali problem, once and for all. Continuing to participate in a process guaranteed to bring generations of misery to all concerned, Israeli and Pali, is not a proper policy for us.
6 posted on 11/09/2007 5:58:23 AM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: George W. Bush; holdonnow

Courtesy Ping
GeorgeW, don’t you know you should give a courtesy ping to Freepers you insult?


7 posted on 11/09/2007 6:02:58 AM PST by mnehring (I am free not to support Ron Paul... Wow, I feel special...)
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To: Salem; SJackson; Allegra; pissant; Calpernia; Petronski; Extremely Extreme Extremist

Ping of interest.


8 posted on 11/09/2007 6:04:28 AM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (Look at all the candidates. Choose who you think is best. Choose wisely in 2008.)
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To: George W. Bush

Bumpmark.


9 posted on 11/09/2007 6:16:32 AM PST by ksen ("For an omniscient and omnipotent God, there are no Plan B's" - Frumanchu)
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To: mnehrling; holdonnow
GeorgeW, don’t you know you should give a courtesy ping to Freepers you insult?

If holdonnow is Levin, I didn't know it. He's welcome to comment.

Maybe he'd like to comment about how he is using the public airwaves repeatedly to harass the offices of a congressman for his own pure petty spite.

I'll continue to file complaints with the FCC, BTW. They keep calling me back, I keep complaining.

Reputable hosts like Rush and Laura don't use their programs for harassment campaigns against public officials. Note: I make exception for all the radio hosts who urged us to ring the phones off the hook at the Capitol over the Shamnesty because that was a matter of public policy that was before the Senate. Levin's campaign against Ron Paul is simple and pure harassment of his congressional office which has no involvement in his presidential campaign.

Levin is another Fox News kind of media figure: "I report, I decide who you can vote for because you're too stupid to decide for yourself, you morons."

Give him a little time and Levin, just like Hannity, will be saying nasty things about FreeRepublic. Rush and Laura are our only real FRiends and all the rest just use FR as a springboard until they can discard us and ridicule us and start their own forums.

Hannity bashes Free Republic (February 2005)
10 posted on 11/09/2007 6:22:53 AM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Ping of interest.

Although you didn't see it on the visible portion of my pinglist, I did ping both SJackson and Alouette, FR's leading posters of Jewish and Israeli articles, so they could comment or dispute the source if they find it questionable.

I'm not trying to sneak one past anybody here. I thought that after all the libelous posts at FR against Ron Paul on this topic, that an article which accurately reports Ron Paul's positions on Israel and addressed specifically to a Jewish audience, was worth a thread of its own for our own reading and for our archive.
11 posted on 11/09/2007 6:27:04 AM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: George W. Bush

Is that before or after Israel would cease to exist??


12 posted on 11/09/2007 6:47:58 AM PST by rod1
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To: George W. Bush
"The United States should take care of its own sovereignty while at the same time respecting the sovereignty of nations like Israel. That is the best way to preserve security and prosperity for all."

Truer words never spoken. We giving away part of America to Mexico while fighting wars around the World. The border fence will be 2 miles inward from the river. Basically we are giving up 2 miles of territory to Mexico for nothing. Americans have died for this land.

13 posted on 11/09/2007 6:49:43 AM PST by Orange1998
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To: George W. Bush
Well, he's right. It was the US that urged the Gaza pull out. It was the US that continually works to keep Israel from attacking those attacking it.

Sell 'em all the guns they can afford and get out of their way.

Sounds reasonable...

14 posted on 11/09/2007 6:51:36 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: rod1
Is that before or after Israel would cease to exist??

We are talking about the same Israel with what is probably the finest military force in the world, man for man, and has 200-300 nukes including neutron bombs and can deliver via plane, missile, or sub-launced cruise missiles?

You'd do better, if you really are concerned for Israel, to focus on the rapidly advancing Saudi nuclear weapons program which is using the Paki technicians from the Paki nuke program which the Saudis financed and the incredibly dangerous sale of $30 billion in advanced weaponry to the Saudis who are the real fundamentalist Islamic threat in the region and around the world.

The key matter here that no one wants to mention no matter how obvious it is: "It's the Saudis, stupid."

If we get nuked or Israel gets nuked, it's far more likely to be from our great allies, the Saudis or the Pakis. Not Iran.
15 posted on 11/09/2007 6:56:32 AM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: George W. Bush
Paul said, "We have adopted a foreign policy that has left Israel surrounded by militaristic nations while undermining Israel’s sovereignty by demanding that its foreign and defense policies be essentially pre-approved in Washington."

Hence we call off Israel's dogs when they are attacked, for fear of offending the Arab countries to which we are beholden. It's a crazy tightrope walk of currying favor the USA plays in the ME.

16 posted on 11/09/2007 7:02:06 AM PST by Puddleglum
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To: George W. Bush
This is actually the best article I've seen on the subject:

An Open Letter to the Jewish Community in Behalf of Ron Paul Walter Block
17 posted on 11/09/2007 7:13:58 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: George W. Bush

He’s got a point. We should be selling Israel weapons (not giving them to them with strings attached) and not sending one damn dime to the Palestinians. Then back off and let Israel take care of their own security concerns, starting with reoccupying Gaza and moving on from there as needed.

I have no problem with us selling military hardware to Israel, because of what they’re surrounded by. I do have a problem with us simultaneously supplying Israel’s enemies with aid, AND then trying to leash Israel from responding to provocations against it.

}:-)4


18 posted on 11/09/2007 7:58:23 AM PST by Moose4 (Ron Paul is like a beautiful plate of food ruined by a cow patty.)
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To: George W. Bush

The 1978 Camp David agreements resulted in the United States committing to several billion dollars worth of annual subsidies to the governments of both Israel and Egypt, subsidies which continue to this day, and are given as a mixture of grants and aid packages committed to purchasing U.S. materiel.

From 1979 (the year of the peace agreement) to 1997, Egypt received $1.3 billion annually, which also helped modernize the Egyptian military, turning it into the largest in the Middle East. Soviet-supplied until 1979, Egypt now received American weaponry such as the M1A1 Abrams Tank, AH-64 Apache gunship and the F-16 fighter jet. In comparison, Israel has received $3 billion annually since 1985 in grants and military aid packages.

Read A Framework for Peace in the Middle East and A Framework for the Conclusion of a Peace Treaty between Egypt and Israel, the second leading towards the Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty signed in March, 1979. The agreements and the peace treaty were both accompanied by “side-letters” of understanding between Egypt and the U.S. and Israel and the U.S.

It is possible that these payments to these countries are part of that treaty...if so Dr. Paul would be obligated to continue the payments.


19 posted on 11/09/2007 8:00:29 AM PST by KDD (A nod is as good as a wink to a blind horse)
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To: George W. Bush
You can thank Carter for that. We had to help Egypt maintain a strong military...especially since by making the peace with Israel, the Islamic world considered Egypt to be a traitor to Islam, and bought and paid for by the Great Satan, Anwar Sadat was assasinated because of it. Sadat was assassinated during the annual 6th October victory parade in Cairo. A fatwā approving the assassination had been obtained from Omar Abdel-Rahman, a cleric later convicted in the U.S. for his role in the February 26, 1993 World Trade Center Bombing. Sadat was protected by four layers of security and the army parade should have been safe due to ammunition-seizure rules. However, the officers in charge of that procedure were on hajj to Mecca.
20 posted on 11/09/2007 8:28:07 AM PST by KDD (A nod is as good as a wink to a blind horse)
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To: George W. Bush
You can thank Carter for that. We had to help Egypt maintain a strong military...especially since by making the peace with Israel, the Islamic world considered Egypt to be a traitor to Islam, and bought and paid for by the Great Satan, Anwar Sadat was assasinated because of it. Sadat was assassinated during the annual 6th October victory parade in Cairo. A fatwā approving the assassination had been obtained from Omar Abdel-Rahman, a cleric later convicted in the U.S. for his role in the February 26, 1993 World Trade Center Bombing. Sadat was protected by four layers of security and the army parade should have been safe due to ammunition-seizure rules. However, the officers in charge of that procedure were on hajj to Mecca.
21 posted on 11/09/2007 8:28:07 AM PST by KDD (A nod is as good as a wink to a blind horse)
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To: George W. Bush
That treaty should never have been forced on Israel. They gave up the Sinai and the only oil fields they possessed.

And talk about blowback.

22 posted on 11/09/2007 8:34:51 AM PST by KDD (A nod is as good as a wink to a blind horse)
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To: Puddleglum
Hence we call off Israel's dogs when they are attacked, for fear of offending the Arab countries to which we are beholden. It's a crazy tightrope walk of currying favor the USA plays in the ME.

I think the Likud faction is in control even if out of power in these things. They seem to call the shots if you watch over a course of years.

Israel should tell us to take a flying leap and deal with their internal and external security threats forcefully, once and for all. They've been the victims of several aggressive wars against their sovereign and internationally recognized national territory and to ongoing genocidal incitement and statements of intent from their enemies in the region. Their neighbors are a pack of Hitlers who have a bloodlust to kill Jews. Period.

I support Israel absolutely. Including the use of nuclear weapons. And I don't think we have any business meddling in their internal or external security issues. I do think they should always have access to our arsenal as customers though. They are the only democracy in the region and they need to defend themselves. Especially against the Saudis and their new $30 Billion in advanced weapons and the Saudi nukes which will likely come online in the next few years as we continue to look the other way and wail over an Iranian bomb.
23 posted on 11/09/2007 8:42:59 AM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: George W. Bush
After watching American foreign policy in the Middle East for over forty years I have come to the conclusion that we pay Israel 3 billion a year to practice restraint.

We should butt out and let Israel police their own neighborhood while they still have the ability to do so.

24 posted on 11/09/2007 8:49:43 AM PST by KDD (A nod is as good as a wink to a blind horse)
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To: KDD
A very fine post.

So often, we forget the real and significant connections between these people and the events. Even recent history is forgotten as we rush to make new policy that virtually guarantees a re-enactment of the same fundamental policy errors that make matters in the oilpatch worse.
25 posted on 11/09/2007 8:54:23 AM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: Moose4
...and not sending one damn dime to the Palestinians.

With all that oil money, it's funny how the oil shiekhs won't part with it unless they're paying off suicide bombers who massacre defenseless Jewish women, children and elderly.

We should cut off the Palis entirely and tell them to turn to their great supporters in the wealthy Arab countries for their support. Maybe it would sink in.

Or just cut them off, severe diplomatic relations, and say nothing at all. They are lead by known terrorists and they are a state sponsor of terrorism.
26 posted on 11/09/2007 8:57:51 AM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: George W. Bush

Ron Paul makes some valid points, on most topics you care to raise.

That said, I don’t give a rats ass what his view of Israel is.

My concern is his view that we brought upon ourselves, via policies in the ‘last decade’ the attacks on the WTC and the Pentagon.

That myopic viewpoint is exceedingly dangerous in this new era. The fact he ignores completely that Islamic terrorists had killed well over 800 American citizens between the 1972 Munich Massacre and SEPTEMBER 10TH, 2001 makes his assertion assine.

Sorry GWB, we agree on other things, just not this wannabe savior.


27 posted on 11/09/2007 9:06:50 AM PST by Badeye (Ron Paul joined 88 Democrats.....)
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To: George W. Bush
"Ron Paul would..."

Ron Paul won't. Because Santa Claus has a better chance of getting elected. But don't let that get in the way of yet another meaningless thread...

28 posted on 11/09/2007 9:10:19 AM PST by montag813
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To: George W. Bush
PAUL'S A KOOK! THIS PRESS RELEASE WAS WRITTEN IN CODE BY WHITE SUPREMACISTS!
29 posted on 11/09/2007 9:44:14 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: George W. Bush
examine the results of Dr. Braun's win in Georgia's Tenth earlier this year.

Exactly, GWB. You'd think the Stupid Party would get a clue.

30 posted on 11/09/2007 9:46:20 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: George W. Bush

We have pledged some 468 plus million dollars to Abbas and his Fatah. For what? It’s insane.


31 posted on 11/09/2007 9:47:38 AM PST by rineaux (How dare you, how dare you question the Clinton's wrecked record.)
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To: Dead Corpse
It was the US that urged the Gaza pull out. It was the US that continually works to keep Israel from attacking those attacking it.

Yeah but according to the Paul bashers, it's still Paul's fault somehow. Just because he votes against sending aid to Israel he's a flaming anti-Semitic. Nevermind that he voted against sending aid to Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, like the administration has done repeatedly. But those countries don't matter because that would get in the way of some good Paul bashing.

33 posted on 11/09/2007 9:50:11 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Badeye
That said, I don’t give a rats ass what his view of Israel is.

You don't "give a rat's ass" because one of the Paul bashers' lies have been shot down. Now it's back to the old talking points of Paul saying that 9/11 was an inside job, etc.

34 posted on 11/09/2007 9:52:53 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Exactly, GWB. You'd think the Stupid Party would get a clue.

It's not just a clue. It's our blueprint for electing Ron Paul as our 44th president.
35 posted on 11/09/2007 9:57:30 AM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

No, EEE.

I honestly could care less what his view of Israel is. Honestly, I didn’t care what Bush’s was either, or Clinton’s, or Bush the Elder, or Reagan’s.

That never comes into play with my deciding who I’ll vote for.

And while you and the other Ron Paul supporters know clearly what I think of him, you cannot find a single post of mine here at Free Republic, or anywhere else on the world wide web (I always use this screen name, or a clear variation of it in forums, have done so since 1999) that indicates otherwise.

I’m not voting for who will be best or worst for the State of Israel. I’m voting for who I think is the best person for the job of POTUS.


36 posted on 11/09/2007 9:59:05 AM PST by Badeye (Ron Paul joined 88 Democrats.....)
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To: Badeye
My concern is his view that we brought upon ourselves, via policies in the ‘last decade’

Your decade should read decades...plural..

Zbigniew Brzezinski, who served as national security advisor under Carter, explained his rationale for US actions in Afghanistan during the late 1970's and 1980's: "What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?"

This quote comes from a 1998 interview, after a French journalist noted that Islamist movements were growing in strength. I doubt if Brzezinski would incredulously ask such questions today. The intention here is not to blame the United States for the actions of terrorists, as they still bear full responsibility for their ghastly crimes. But when our media and politicians ignore the connection between our past actions and current attacks against us, they are being extremely disingenuous.

Against tomorrow's blowback

37 posted on 11/09/2007 10:13:20 AM PST by KDD (A nod is as good as a wink to a blind horse)
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To: KDD

My concern is his view that we brought upon ourselves, via policies in the ‘last decade’
Your decade should read decades...plural..

Ron Paul didn’t use the plural, so nope.

I understand what you are trying to say, however. It just doesn’t apply to what I’m saying related to Ron Paul’s now infamous comment in the debate a couple of months back.


38 posted on 11/09/2007 10:14:51 AM PST by Badeye (Ron Paul joined 88 Democrats.....)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

‘of Paul saying that 9/11 was an inside job, etc.’

btw, I’ve never claimed that either, in any post.

I do admit I’ve laughed at some of the posts related to that sort of thing, however....(chuckle)


39 posted on 11/09/2007 10:16:55 AM PST by Badeye (Ron Paul joined 88 Democrats.....)
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To: odd_anomaly
Good post. And welcome to FR.

the Israelis have grown used to the subsidy and don’t want to give it up.

Maybe some have. To say there's a majority? I dunno. This is a matter of the differences between Israeli citizens and the Israeli ruling elites who don't always pay attention to their own citizens (see our own recent Shamnesty meltdown for how it occurs here).

Netanyahu tried to wean them off this years ago knowing full well that its acceptance would eventually lead to them having to accept a peace accord to satisfy US interests

I think he may get back to office again. Too talented for his career to be over yet.

As for a peace accord to satisfy US interests, a lot of people don't recognize that a key bloc in forcing these bad policies on Israel is the influence of the American Jewish community who tend to rally around and vote for Dims. So while the worst of these policies are advocated by Dim politicians, they are actually acting on behalf of and in agreement with a narrow segment of the American Jewish community. The majority of American Jews are not as pro-Israel as some people think and they think we meddle too much there, send too much aid, send too many weapons, etc. Of course, as with any topic involving Jews, you'll find almost as many completely different opinions as you can find Jews. Honestly, I do wonder how they ever reach consensus on anything because they have such an extremely wide range of views on these matters and about Israel most of all. I have to admit, as a Gentile, trying to parse Israeli Jews vs. American Jews and all their various factions and political connections is just too confusing. I found an article by a Jewish writer at Time a while back that detailed the incredible mix of views and politics and interconnections in the relations between the leadership of Israel and Israeli citizens and the leadership of American Jewish organizations and Jewish Americans and all the interconnections. I have to admit, I think I was more confused after reading it and it was a great article too, long and detailed.

Sometimes I wonder how we're supposed to make American and Israeli Jews happy with any solution. I think we should let them work it out. Same thing with Israeli Jews and the Palis (and I think the Israeli Jews should tell the American Jews to butt out of internal Israeli security matters and stop forcing them to negotiate with terrorists and having to accept fake peace accords). If American Jews want to determine Israeli security policy, then they should move there, serve in their armed forces and live there. It's awfully easy to dictate these awful compromises to Israeli Jews when you aren't the one who has to live there with the dangers of terrorism and surrounded by millions of hostile Muslims who have genocidal intent toward you for being a Jew.
40 posted on 11/09/2007 10:17:21 AM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Freebies are one thing. We shouldn't be giving freebies to ANYONE for ANY reason. That is OUR tax money being pissed away.

As for SELLING folks like the Israelis out toyz? Oh hellz yeah! Let them handle the Islamic extremists for us...

41 posted on 11/09/2007 10:45:08 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: George W. Bush

I would have no problem with us telling the Palestinian “Authority” to take their begging bowl and head for Saudi Arabia. But considering that most of the rest of the Arab world thinks the Palis are no better than scum, I doubt they’ll get far. The racism that other Arabs feel toward the Palestinians is pretty extreme, from things that I have read. The Arabs will prop the Palis up as long as they’re useful cannon fodder against the Jews, and not one second longer. They don’t care if they live or die.

}:-)4


43 posted on 11/09/2007 11:04:17 AM PST by Moose4 (Ron Paul is like a beautiful plate of food ruined by a cow patty.)
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To: Moose4
But considering that most of the rest of the Arab world thinks the Palis are no better than scum, I doubt they’ll get far.

The Palis are in fact just a whipping boy for the other Arabs to use against the Jews. The actual welfare and well-being of Palestinians is a matter of complete indifference to the other Arabs unless it can be used in some way to foment violence or genocide against Israel.

I think the Arab countries actually oppose any improvements for the Palis in any way. They really hate the Jews that much.
44 posted on 11/09/2007 1:27:16 PM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: Dead Corpse
I agree. Give the Israelis (and the Arabs) nothing, but sell weapons to the Israelis as long as they continue to be a good ally.

I would hope that this thread puts the lie once and for all to the false assertions that Ron Paul is an antisemite.
45 posted on 11/09/2007 1:54:10 PM PST by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: Iwo Jima
I would hope that this thread puts the lie once and for all to the false assertions that Ron Paul is an antisemite.

Hope is a wonderful thing to have. But don't hold your breath. Some of Paul's more Constitutional stances will upset a LOT of Nanny State apple carts. Therefore, he is an "enemy" even when he's right.

The political Left does the same thing, but for their pet socialist causes.

PS... I still don't like his WoT stance. It's enough of a deal breaker that I could not vote for him in a Primary.

46 posted on 11/09/2007 2:03:41 PM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: George W. Bush
Most of the Palestinian mandate is actually under Jordanian control. But, you don't hear about the PLO attacking them do you?

It has always been about the destruction of Israel. I say we arm up Israel and let them try and re-establish their pre-Christian claim to pretty much everything West of the pre-1994 Treaty line of the Jordan river.

47 posted on 11/09/2007 2:08:53 PM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Sloth
We have adopted a foreign policy that has left Israel surrounded by militaristic nations while undermining Israel’s sovereignty by demanding that its foreign and defense policies be essentially pre-approved in Washington

A simple but glaring truth

48 posted on 11/09/2007 3:39:07 PM PST by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: mnehrling; holdonnow
So where is holdonnow anyway? I thought he'd show up and defend his cowardly use of the public airwaves to harass a public official and close down his legitimate congressional office phone lines with harassing calls? I especially like how he urges his listeners to wait and dial all at the same moment to overburden the House switchboard and block a congressman's lines so he can't receive call on that line for official business and legitimate communication from his constitutents. And how exactly is that anything but a deliberate attempt at harassment anyway?

Maybe you should flag him again. I'd like to hear his explanation for it.
50 posted on 11/10/2007 6:11:07 AM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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