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1 posted on 11/09/2007 11:03:04 AM PST by neverdem
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To: jveritas; eyespysomething

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2 posted on 11/09/2007 11:05:37 AM PST by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: neverdem

OK. Do we need more evidence to convince us that mass deportation is the answer?


3 posted on 11/09/2007 11:11:39 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: neverdem

The writer wins the award for the most tenuous and convoluted 9/11-to-Saddam link yet. He’s probably good at the Kevin Bacon game, too.


4 posted on 11/09/2007 11:12:37 AM PST by Deathmonger
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To: neverdem

Interesting article.


5 posted on 11/09/2007 11:34:15 AM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: neverdem
Numan Bin Uthman

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6 posted on 11/09/2007 12:08:11 PM PST by rfp1234 (Mundus vult decipi: the world wants to be deceived. ---James Branch Cabell)
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To: neverdem
Numan! [/Jerry Seinfeld voice]

Sorry, couldn't help myself.
9 posted on 11/09/2007 1:44:59 PM PST by Renderofveils (My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music. - Nabokov)
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To: neverdem
I really, really want this story to be true.

If it were true, the entire rationale of the American and worldwide Left of the last five+ years would be proven disastrously wrong in front of everyone. It would be glorious.

But for now, I have to put this in the too-good-to-be-true file. Related thread.

10 posted on 11/09/2007 1:55:46 PM PST by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: neverdem

What Ray R. says about Uthman, the meeting in Kandahar in the summer of 2000 (it was over several days), and the discussion he had with Atef and Ayman is correct.

But instead of confusing that significant letter (and the significant witness to that meeting who is available to interview), with a connection to Iraq,
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consider the access that a Salafist Iraqi American microbiologist working with his former teacher, Bin Laden’s sheik Al-Hawali, had to know-how from the Defense Advance Research Projects Agency program funded at the George Mason University Center for Biodefense.

At one point, his office was about 10 feet from the famed Russian bioweaponeer Ken Alibek and the former USAMRIID head Charles Bailey, who has published a lot papers using the Ames strain of anthrax. The scientist’s name was Ali Al-Timimi. Judging from the directory, they shared the same fax number and mailstop. He was sentenced to life plus 70 years for sedition — for exhorting some young men to go defend their religion and fight jihad.

On the first anniversary of the anthrax, he had a letter hand-delivered to all members of Congress warning them not to invade Iraq.

Al-Timimi had a high security clearance for work for the Navy, according to a fascinating article by Milton Viorst in the Atlantic Monthly. His bionformatics program was co-sponsored by the American Type Culture Collection, which has the most diverse microbiological collection the world. While ATCC does not have Ames in its online catalog, they do not deny to me that they had it in their patent repository.

Pork-fueled proliferation merely increases the risk of infiltration. Emails between Ayman Zawahiri and Atef in Spring 1999 show that they did not even begin to consider biological weapons until the USG kept telling them how it easy it was. Ayman decided that they should use the cover of universities and charities in weaponizing anthrax. The Defense Intelligence Agency has produced correspondence showing that one scientist, Rauf Ahmad, was attending conferences in the UK sponsored by their biodefense establishment, Porton Down. He visited laboratories including one with thousands of pathogens and tells Ayman “I successfully achieved the targets.”

Here are the details of the infiltration of the program at GMU.

Sheiks, Bioweaponeers, And DARPA

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxa.html#SheikandtheBioweaponeers

a. Hardball Tactics In An Era Of Threats

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxa.html#Hardball%20Tactics%20In%20An%20Era%20Of%20Threats

b. The Education Of Ali Al-Timimi

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxa.html#The%20Education%20of%20Ali%20Al-Timimi

c. “The Straight Path”: Connecting the Dots

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxa.html#StraightPath

d. GMU Center For Biodefense: Discovery Hall

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxa.html#GMU%20Center%20for%20Biodefense:%20Discovery%20Hall

e. Islamic Ruling On The Peace Process

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxa.html#Ali%20and%20The%20Islamic%20Ruling%20On%20The%20Peace%20Process

f. The 2006 Arrest Of Former Falls Church “911 Imam” And Fellow Salafist Lecturer Awlaqi

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxa.html#The%202006%20Arrest%20Of%20Falls%20Church%20Imam%20And%20Fellow%20Salafist%20Lecturer%20Awlaqi

g. Real Men Don’t Type: Ability of Intelligence To Prevent Domestic Bioterrorism

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze43v8m/alqaeda,anthraxa.html#The%20Ability%20of%20Intelligence%20To%20Prevent%20Domestic%20Bioterrorism


12 posted on 11/09/2007 3:12:07 PM PST by ZacandPook
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To: neverdem

Here is a different thread based on a different article relating to this recent open letter to Zawahiri. As revised, this article includes Bin Uthman’s comments in an interview from last December where the Libyan discusses the issue of targeting. There were definitely those — whose support Bin Laden was actively courting — who objected to sloppy targeting (the killing of civilians, women and children etc). This Libyan was speaking for the record — perhaps someone could ask him to address the issue of WMD more specifically — perhaps he could be asked specifically his opinion of the anthrax mailings. The operation, according to former CIA Director Tenet, was strictly compartmentalized at the highest levels and so there is no reason he would know details. But him talking to Atef and Ayman and Bin Laden about these general issues in the Summer of 2000 is pretty damn good and so his insights would be important. Tenet says the anthrax planning was done in parallel to the 9/11 planning.

Jihadist’s Letter to Zawahiri Reveals Anthrax Motive
http://www.bloggernews.net/111561

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1923270/posts


13 posted on 11/09/2007 3:23:44 PM PST by ZacandPook
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To: neverdem
So much for all those liberal moonbats who insist that there was no connection between Sadaam's regime and Islamofascists. Saddaam gave them the Anthrax. And whats even more disturbing is that the Syrians likely have a large store of Anthrax powder, ready to be unleashed against Israel, smuggled out of Iraq in the weeks leading up to the US invasion of Iraq, with the help of Russian made military vehicles as observed by intel satellites.

This is very bad news for Israel.

Because Olmert will do nothing.

16 posted on 11/09/2007 11:26:22 PM PST by Candor7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_(1258))
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To: neverdem
If there are no WMDs in Iraq, why are all deployees, both Military and Civilian required to get the vaccination. (When they weren’t after the initial invasion)?
19 posted on 11/10/2007 5:32:02 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter ( Who is America's George Galloway?)
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