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Ron Paul: Israel bought Jesse Helms
The Ron Paul Political Report | Volume 1 Number 1 | Ron Paul

Posted on 11/09/2007 11:48:01 AM PST by LSUfan

Ron Paul Political Report

Volume I Number 1

Page 3

In Congress today, unquestlonlng support for Israel is true bipartisan foreign policy. Conservative Senator Jesse Helms (R-Nc) was once a critic of aid to Israel. In 1983, the Israell lobby set out to forge an alliance between the evangelical right and Jews and knew Helms would be the best place to start. As a result, in 1984 Israeli PACs and associated wealthy buslnessmen helped bankroll Helms' reelection. campaign. Once Helms was back in office, he was flown to Israel. At the Wailing wall, Helms described the revelatlon that God wanted foreign aid to Israel. This also, not coincidentally, made him acceptable as minority leader of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.


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To: Iwo Jima

I may be a fool. Before I answer your question can you name one time when RP has supported Israel?


61 posted on 11/09/2007 3:55:18 PM PST by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: LSUfan

Is Ron Paul a neo-Nazi? I think I’ve read this sort of tripe on Christian Identity and Nazi websites. Amazing that anyone is giving this little sh*t-for-brains the time of day.


62 posted on 11/09/2007 3:59:22 PM PST by montag813
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To: TC Rider
God bless one of the best conservatives to ever serve in the US Senate.

Amen, and thanks for your tribute.

63 posted on 11/09/2007 4:00:02 PM PST by montag813
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To: Iwo Jima

Coming revolution huh..

WOW!

BTW if you really believed that BS you spew you would refuse to use those highways and anything else that’s unconstitutional. That’s what I love about you guys. You pass yourselves off as the keepers of the flame but in reeality y’all are full of crap..


64 posted on 11/09/2007 4:02:48 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Real voters in real voting booths will elect FDT.)
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To: LSUfan
An Open Letter to the Jewish Community in Behalf of Ron Paul
65 posted on 11/09/2007 4:06:45 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; LSUfan
Let’s save the antisemitism for DU, MoveOn, Stormfront and Huffington, shall we?

Where did you see any antisemitism? I must have missed it. The only antisemitism I see is from cut and run.
LSUfan, I back you now, but when OSU plays LSU in January for the national championship I won't.
66 posted on 11/09/2007 4:07:54 PM PST by rideharddiefast
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To: svcw
No, no, no, no, no. YOU alleged that Ron Paul had made statements against Israel. I called your bluff. You cannot produce.

As far as "supporting Israel," exactly what does that mean? Why and how should an American support a foreign government? Under what provision of the Constitution does an elected official have the right to "support Israel."

To gauge the worth of an American office holder by the amount of support that he gives to a foreign government is treasonous. Are you a traitor to America?

As an American, I only "support Israel" in the sense of providing moral support and only as long as it acts as our ally, which it has done for the most part.
67 posted on 11/09/2007 4:20:50 PM PST by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: ejonesie22
I see no reason to refuse to use the federal highways because part of the funding for them was unconstitutional. My hard earned money -- both state and federal -- went to pay for those highways. I have bought the right to use them.

Social security is unconstitutional. I am for eliminating social security right now. But when I retire, I will have no problem collecting the pittance alloted me because I have paid the maximum into social security for about 30 years.

I am against local property taxes which for me is over $25k a year. But I had no problem sending one of my children to a public school. I had paid for that right, notwithstanding my objection to government education and property taxes.

The point is that, not only am I not "seeking the unearned," I am only getting a pittance of the value of what has been forcibly taken from me by taxation.

If the various governmental entities had not gotten into these areas, the free market would have provided these goods and services and they would be better and cheaper. I am not a hypocrite to use these services, as I have not only overpaid for the right to do so, but have been harmed by the government destroying the market which would have provided me with better and cheaper goods and services.
68 posted on 11/09/2007 4:32:24 PM PST by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: LSUfan
Little Green Footballs is now carrying the story, as well. ;)
69 posted on 11/09/2007 5:33:40 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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To: montag813

Well, he certainly is loved by by the neo-nazis over at Stormfront, and is endorsed by David Duke.


70 posted on 11/09/2007 6:50:31 PM PST by End Times Crusader (Chris Peden for Congress 2008 - send Ron Paul packing)
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To: Iwo Jima

Wow. Since you accuse me of being a traitor, there is no sense in continuing this conversation.


71 posted on 11/09/2007 8:20:50 PM PST by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; lormand; Petronski; ejonesie22; drpix; svcw; 2ndDivisionVet; ...
Thanks Kent, nice slam on fellow Republican Helms.

On top of the Willis Carto/American Free Press/Council of Conservative Citizens columns/Stormfront-David Duke support, this doesn’t surprise me at all, and personally I think an explanation of this and his 1992 “expose” of the fleet footed, politically foolish, largely criminal population of blacks living among us. Full newsletter article here

The criminals who terrorize our cities--in riots and on every non-riot day--are not exclusively young black males, but they largely are. As children, they are trained to hate whites, to believe that white oppression is responsible for all black ills, to "fight the power," and to steal and loot as much money from the white enemy as possible.

Regardless of what the media tell us, most white Americans are not going to believe that they are at fault for what blacks have done to cities across America. The professional blacks may have cowed the elites, but good sense survives at the grass roots. Many more are going to have difficultly avoiding the belief that our country is being destroyed by a group of actual and potential terrorists -- and they can be identified by the color of their skin. This conclusion may not be entirely fair, but it is, for many, entirely unavoidable.

Indeed, it is shocking to consider the uniformity of opinion among blacks in this country. Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5% of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty, and the end of welfare and affirmative action. I know many who fall into this group personally and they deserve credit--not as representatives of a racial group, but as decent people. They are, however, outnumbered. Of black males in Washington, D.C, between the ages of 18 and 35, 42% are charged with a crime or are serving a sentence, reports the National Center on Institutions and Alternatives. The Center also reports that 70% of all black men in Washington are arrested before they reach the age of 35, and 85% are arrested at some point in their lives. Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the "criminal justice system," I think we can safely assume that 95% of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.

If similar in-depth studies were conducted in other major cities, who doubts that similar results would be produced? We are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, but it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings, and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers.

Perhaps the L.A. experience should not be surprising. The riots, burning, looting, and murders are only a continuation of 30 years of racial politics. The looting in L.A. was the welfare state without the voting booth. The elite have sent one message to black America for 30 years: you are entitled to something for nothing. That's what blacks got on the streets of L.A. for three days in April. Only they didn't ask their Congressmen to arrange the transfer.

Blacks have "civil riqhts," preferences, set-asides for government contracts, gerrymandered voting districts, black bureaucracies, black mayors, black curricula in schools, black beauty contests, black tv shows, black tv anchors, black scholorships and colleges, hate crime laws, and public humiliation for anyone who dares question the black agenda.

Two years ago, in a series of predictions for the 1990s, I said that race riots would erupt in our large cities. I'm now predicting this will be the major problem of the 1990s.

The good news, Paul (or someone) does correct predict the rise of a terror threat in the 1990s. Of course it’s the blacks and their ideology and culture, not the rational Islamists reacting to colonialization.

The Paul excuse is that though the article is signed by Ron Paul, and printed in the $50 per year Ron Paul Political Report, those aren’t his statistics and opinions, he didn’t actually write it, and apparently never read it.

The remedy, an apology, appropriate. A refusal to identify the individual Paul trusted with his name. IMO, unacceptable for a Presidential candidate. This individual was obviously close to Paul, given the years long gap between publication and discovery may reflect Paul’s views, and may well still be close to him. And a refusal to release other copies of the publication so the public can see just what Paul was advocating over those years. And yes, the link above, the only complete article from the newsletter was posted to usenet by a well known white supremacist.

These excerpts clearly address the issue of newsletter content. From a NYT magazine interview, The Antiwar, Anti-Abortion, Anti-Drug-Enforcement- Administration, Anti-Medicare Candidacy of Dr. Ron Paul , earlier this year,

Paul survived these revelations. He later explained that he had not written the passages himself — quite believably, since the style diverges widely from his own. But his response to the accusations was not transparent. When Morris called on him to release the rest of his newsletters, he would not. He remains touchy about it. “Even the fact that you’re asking this question infers, ‘Oh, you’re an anti-Semite,’ ” he told me in June. Actually, it doesn’t. Paul was in Congress when Israel bombed Iraq’s Osirak nuclear plant in 1981 and — unlike the United Nations and the Reagan administration — defended its right to do so. He says Saudi Arabia has an influence on Washington equal to Israel’s. His votes against support for Israel follow quite naturally from his opposition to all foreign aid. There is no sign that they reflect any special animus against the Jewish state.

What is interesting is Paul’s idea that the identity of the person who did write those lines is “of no importance.” Paul never deals in disavowals or renunciations or distancings, as other politicians do. In his office one afternoon in June, I asked about his connections to the John Birch Society. “Oh, my goodness, the John Birch Society!” he said in mock horror. “Is that bad? I have a lot of friends in the John Birch Society. They’re generally well educated, and they understand the Constitution. I don’t know how many positions they would have that I don’t agree with. Because they’re real strict constitutionalists, they don’t like the war, they’re hard-money people. . . . ”

Paul’s ideological easygoingness is like a black hole that attracts the whole universe of individuals and groups who don’t recognize themselves in the politics they see on TV. To hang around with his impressively large crowd of supporters before and after the CNN debate in Manchester, N.H., in June, was to be showered with privately printed newsletters full of exclamation points and capital letters, scribbled-down U.R.L.’s for Web sites about the Free State Project, which aims to turn New Hampshire into a libertarian enclave, and copies of the cult DVD “America: Freedom to Fascism.”

It strikes me that a request to release the newsletters is perfectly reasonable, but in no way could be an attempt to paint him as an anti-Semite. Racist, I suppose you could make that charge, but why antisemite? Unless unbeknownst to the world they contained questionable antisemitic content.

All in all, an embarrassment for the Republican Party. Paul should make his newsletters public and name the author, else the charge that they were simply survivalist/white supremacist/militia garbage will stick. The GOP doesn’t need what Medved refers to as a candidate for neonazis in the race. Paul needs to clear these issues as best as he can.

72 posted on 11/10/2007 3:24:48 AM PST by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: Admin Moderator
We have no problem with these posts, but to prevent confusion and complaints, please leave the link space blank.

Thanks, as I noted in my post below the contents of these newsletters are a mystery which should be revealed. Better here than in a NYT feature article on the trend toward racism and antisemitism in the Republican Party. Of course for that to be taken seriously, Paul would probably have to get himself into the top tier. Unfortunately it does mitigate criticism of Dems and their relationships with places like KOS.

73 posted on 11/10/2007 3:29:37 AM PST by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: traviskicks
Interesting letter.

What is Walter Block's relationship with the Paul campaign?

Does Paul endorse the letter?

Are Block and Paul contending that Tancredo and Hunter were barred from the RJC because of their anti-Israel positions?

If so, convince me.

If not, this is just another piece of Ron Paul world class whining.

74 posted on 11/10/2007 3:36:23 AM PST by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: LSUfan

If the source is not confidential, would mind sharing where the reports and quotes on Ron Paul come from?


75 posted on 11/10/2007 3:42:56 AM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: ejonesie22
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EJonesie22,


Actually, I LOVE all the Money the United States has spent on this "Wilsonian unconstitutional farce you call a War" ...


The Islamic Fascists (Afghanistan and Iraq) who LOVED watching re-runs of the America's 9-11 Horror ...are all DEAD or IMPRISONED.


What a beautiful picture !


Next ... the LIBYANS who were secretly making WMDs for use against Western Civilization (which, I presume includes Ron Paul, his Children and Grandchildren) ...

Fessed-up and voluntarily surrendered ALL their WMDs to Uncle Sam and the U.S. Marines ...


Again, What a beautiful picture ...


Finally, IRAN's lunatic Mullahs will have the @sses handed them them on a silver platter in about six months ...

What a beautiful picture !!!!


Wilson was an ABJECT failure as a President ... particularly his Foreign Policy ...

Wilson's "severe" lack of cajones (sp) enabled the British and French to sow the seeds of WW-II by royally screwing Germany from here to hell and back ...

Wilson ... in his idealistic (Ron Paul) way ... helped give Europe the "wonderful" Christmas Present also known as Adolph Hilter and the Third Reich ...



I shudder to think of the world my grandchildren were to live in (as adults) if that NAIVE PIECE of LIBERTARIAN SHIITE (Ron Paul) ever served even ten-minutes in the White House.



Go READ your history ... and LEARN FROM IT ... before auditioning for the role as "Ron Paul's Straight Man" here at Free Republic ...


Free Republic is where the BIG DOGs play ...

Any Questions ?



Patton-at-Bastogne


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76 posted on 11/10/2007 4:00:43 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: Patton@Bastogne; ejonesie22
Go READ your history ... and LEARN FROM IT ... before auditioning for the role as "Ron Paul's Straight Man" here at Free Republic ...

Free Republic is where the BIG DOGs play ...

Any Questions ?

Re-read all of ejonesie's postings on this (and, if need be) other Paul-oriented threads, and then apologize. Nicely. ;)

77 posted on 11/10/2007 4:20:40 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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To: Iwo Jima; SJackson; Allegra; Alouette
As far as "supporting Israel," exactly what does that mean? [...] To gauge the worth of an American office holder by the amount of support that he gives to a foreign government is treasonous. Are you a traitor to America?

... and this, mind you, posted by a Paulestinian shrilly and hysterically blubbering in objection to the notion that RP might ever have conceivably written and/or stated: "Israel bought Jesse Helms."

It'd take a heart made of stone not to point and laugh. Really and truly. ;)

78 posted on 11/10/2007 4:48:13 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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To: SJackson

“All in all, an embarrassment for the Republican Party. Paul should make his newsletters public and name the author, else the charge that they were simply survivalist/white supremacist/militia garbage will stick. The GOP doesn’t need what Medved refers to as a candidate for neonazis in the race. Paul needs to clear these issues as best as he can.”

Back when a few folks were pointing out that Ron Paul articles were posted on several disreputable sites (Stormfront and others) didn’t all the RP supporters tell us that all of RP written material was available to any one and every one? If so, then why aren’t these released as well?


79 posted on 11/10/2007 4:51:05 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Ron Paul isn't mentioned in the Constitution either.)
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To: DugwayDuke
Back when a few folks were pointing out that Ron Paul articles were posted on several disreputable sites (Stormfront and others) didn’t all the RP supporters tell us that all of RP written material was available to any one and every one? If so, then why aren’t these released as well?

Yes, they did say that. Consistancy isn't one of Paul's strengths, nor his supporters.

80 posted on 11/10/2007 5:00:43 AM PST by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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