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(AZ Gov) Symington: I saw a UFO in the Arizona sky
CNN ^ | 11/10/2007 | By Fife Symington

Posted on 11/09/2007 12:23:48 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet

Former Arizona Governor Fife Symington will be moderating a November 12 event at the National Press Club where he will discuss the Phoenix Lights incident. He says he will be joined by 14 former high-ranking military and government officials from seven countries who will share evidence from what they call their own UFO experiences and investigations.

Fife Symington says he nearly had a close encounter while governor of Arizona.

(CNN) -- In 1997, during my second term as governor of Arizona, I saw something that defied logic and challenged my reality.

I witnessed a massive delta-shaped, craft silently navigate over Squaw Peak, a mountain range in Phoenix, Arizona. It was truly breathtaking. I was absolutely stunned because I was turning to the west looking for the distant Phoenix Lights.

To my astonishment this apparition appeared; this dramatically large, very distinctive leading edge with some enormous lights was traveling through the Arizona sky.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: nut; phoenix; symington; ufo
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I don't care what he saw. If the green men would happen to crash on U.S. soil, and didn't have a green card, then they gotsta go. Look what happened during that one movie with James Caan "Alien Nation": Illegal Aliens on the dole, hooked on crack, and reveling in human porn.
1 posted on 11/09/2007 12:23:51 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

It’s frightening what those bathhouse parties will do to a guy’s scalp...


2 posted on 11/09/2007 12:28:00 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

Dennis Kucinich is the governor of Arizona????


3 posted on 11/09/2007 12:29:10 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
Fife Symington says he nearly had a close encounter while governor of Arizona.

While chasing vision dot's I bet...

4 posted on 11/09/2007 12:30:39 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

If you see a UFO, how do you know it’s a UFO?............


5 posted on 11/09/2007 12:30:47 PM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
It's seems like the USA's nutbag quotient has been rising.

Maybe Carlton Ridenhour was right.

6 posted on 11/09/2007 12:31:15 PM PST by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
“I was absolutely stunned because I was turning to the west looking for the distant Phoenix Lights.”

Anything spotted at night is dubious.

7 posted on 11/09/2007 12:32:42 PM PST by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
I witnessed a massive delta-shaped, craft silently navigate over Squaw Peak, a mountain range in Phoenix, Arizona. It was truly breathtaking. I was absolutely stunned because I was turning to the west looking for the distant Phoenix Lights.

Don't Bogart that joint my friend and it wouldn't be so breathtaking.

8 posted on 11/09/2007 12:33:56 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

I wonder with all of this UFO chatter no one has come up with a decent photo of an UFO. Photos of pie plates just don’t cut it.


9 posted on 11/09/2007 12:34:25 PM PST by jonrick46
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
Oh gawd, not the infamous Phoenix lights again.

They were proven to be parachute flares from a nighttime military exercise.


10 posted on 11/09/2007 12:34:38 PM PST by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: wideawake
It's seems like the USA's nutbag quotient has been rising.

Ya' think?

11 posted on 11/09/2007 12:35:31 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Red Badger

Cuz it is flying, and you don’t know what it is. If you can’t identify it, it’s a UFO. Note, a UFO is not necessarily a “flying saucer” and it isn’t necessarily “from out there”.

I wish folks would get off this. I’m an amateur astronomer, and over the last forty plus years, I’ve seen a LOT Of weird things in the sky (no, I don’t think they were aliens)... lol

But, just because someone sees something he or she can not explain doesn’t mean they are kooks.


12 posted on 11/09/2007 12:35:33 PM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

I wonder if he saw Dennis Kuchinich in the drivers seat and just isn’t saying.


13 posted on 11/09/2007 12:36:20 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
In 1997, during my second term as governor of Arizona, I saw something that defied logic and challenged my reality.

He tuned into CNN?

14 posted on 11/09/2007 12:36:57 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: Red Badger
If you see a UFO, how do you know it’s a UFO?............

Open your mind....open your mind.....

LOL!

15 posted on 11/09/2007 12:37:38 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
He saw an alien too.

16 posted on 11/09/2007 12:40:25 PM PST by evets (beer)
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To: jonrick46



How's that? :)

17 posted on 11/09/2007 12:42:33 PM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: lowbridge

“I saw something that defied logic and challenged my reality.”

(cont) “I flipped back to the cover of the pamphlet,..and there it was. The title of this monstrosity: ‘Recommended Strategy for President Clinton to Rebut Bimbo Eruptions’


18 posted on 11/09/2007 12:42:55 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: Yo-Yo

Your link to the parachute flares deals with an Arkansas sighting.


19 posted on 11/09/2007 12:43:57 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Rick.Donaldson

20 posted on 11/09/2007 12:44:33 PM PST by evets (beer)
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To: evets

That from a movie, or was that the actual shot taken from a television in the 1940s?


21 posted on 11/09/2007 12:45:25 PM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

The movie “Fire in the Sky” was based on events that allegedly took place in Arizona. Arizona is right next to New Mexico, where Roswell is.

Co-incidence?

(Cue “Twilight Zone” theme)


22 posted on 11/09/2007 12:46:45 PM PST by Disambiguator (Political Correctness is criminal insanity writ large.)
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To: Rick.Donaldson

Washington D.C., 1952. Fighters were scrambled to chase those lights. On more than one successive night.

Yeah, right, knowledge of UFO history make me a nutbag. *sigh*


23 posted on 11/09/2007 12:48:11 PM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Rick.Donaldson
Real pics from July 1952

24 posted on 11/09/2007 12:48:13 PM PST by evets (beer)
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To: evets
"Quaid...Quaid..."
25 posted on 11/09/2007 12:51:55 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: evets
Here's one that cops saw. Near Melbourne, Australia


26 posted on 11/09/2007 12:52:43 PM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: Rick.Donaldson

Not exactly HDTV


27 posted on 11/09/2007 12:54:05 PM PST by xp38
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To: Ben Ficklin
You're right. Sorry. That was the link in the Wiki article. That'll show me not to use Wiki as a source. I found the article on the Arizona Republic website, but you have to pay to see it.

It's story number seven on

28 posted on 11/09/2007 12:55:40 PM PST by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

What’s with all these UFO stories lately?


29 posted on 11/09/2007 12:56:26 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Ben Ficklin
Let's try again.

It's story number seven on this page.

30 posted on 11/09/2007 12:57:10 PM PST by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: Rick.Donaldson
Words have more than one meaning. Everyone knows the words the initials UFO stand for. An unknown insect can be a UFO when you take the words literally.

In common parlance UFO means alien craft (even if it is hovering and not flying). It's American English and used properly.

No need to get riled.


31 posted on 11/09/2007 12:59:06 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Kevmo
"What’s with all these UFO stories lately?"

Kucinich is trying to raise awareness on behalf of his people.

32 posted on 11/09/2007 12:59:23 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: Frank_Discussion

Not at all. I have a lot of knowledge of it too. Goes hand-in-hand with being an astronomer. LOL! There is, in my opinion enough real evidence to say “I’m not sure there aren’t visitors”. But, I won’t go out on a limb and say there really ARE visitors. I just won’t say there aren’t.

I’m also of the opinion that there is, indeed, life out there. Big time.

We’re going to find life on Mars, I would stake money on it.


33 posted on 11/09/2007 1:00:19 PM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

I use to love that show. Something about bald-headed women...


34 posted on 11/09/2007 1:00:42 PM PST by wolfcreek (The Status Quo Sucks!)
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To: Rick.Donaldson
UFOs are TIME MACHINES from the FUTURE...


35 posted on 11/09/2007 1:01:07 PM PST by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: Kevmo

“What’s with all these UFO stories lately?”

Haven’t you wondered why the world is so crazy, lately?

Why it seems our politicians are going all out to rape and pillage the populace?

It’s because they know.

The time has come, and soon, everyone will know.

And it’s gonna suck, big time. Every man for himself will be the rule of the day, so be prepared, it is coming.


36 posted on 11/09/2007 1:02:21 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (- Attention all planets of the solar Federation--Secret plan codeword: Banana)
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To: I see my hands

“UFO means alien craft” in pop culture and undisciplined minds. In precise and proper usage, it means exactly what the acronym says, as Captain Ruppelt intended.


37 posted on 11/09/2007 1:03:18 PM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: I see my hands

LOL! Who said *I* got riled? I didn’t. I KNOW words have MEANING. No, words don’t usually have MORE than one, but if they DO they are RELATED.

UFO doesn’t have more than one meaning, it has one, and only one. It doesn’t mean “kook”. “I saw a flying saucer” however will give pause to most reasonable people. Unless they see them themselves. LOL


38 posted on 11/09/2007 1:03:32 PM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: Rick.Donaldson

And *that* is a proper attitude!


39 posted on 11/09/2007 1:04:15 PM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
Symington, KuKucinich conversation:

Symington: Hey KuKucinich
KuKucinich: Yes Mr. Symington
Symington: Mr. KuKucinich! You are a UFO
KuKucinich: Huh? What's that?
Symington: You know! A UFO! I, too, am a UFO!
KuKucinich: If you're one and I'm one, what is a UFO?
Symington: An Unadulterated Friggin' Oaf!

40 posted on 11/09/2007 1:04:39 PM PST by Bushbacker1 (Officially Fredbacker1 but don't know how to change my name)
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To: evets

Fake but accurate picture from 1956.

41 posted on 11/09/2007 1:04:47 PM PST by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: Yo-Yo
I was maintenence chief on Goldwater during that time. These were no-where close to the range. Even my boss saw them from his house in Mesa and had no idea what they were. We were guessing something new from Nevada.


42 posted on 11/09/2007 1:05:03 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: Red Badger
If you see a UFO, how do you know it’s a UFO?............

If you can't identify it and it's flying, then it's an unidentified flying object. That doesn't imply it's from outer space or anything, it just means you can't identify it.

43 posted on 11/09/2007 1:05:08 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Rick.Donaldson

Why is everything in the photo sharp and clear, even the distant hills but the ‘ufo’ is blurry?


44 posted on 11/09/2007 1:05:34 PM PST by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: UCANSEE2

Why it seems our politicians are going all out to rape and pillage the populace?


As if this is a new thing?


45 posted on 11/09/2007 1:05:55 PM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: UCANSEE2

Time for a dose of simple reality. Invest $5 in your future.

“Intercept UFO” by Renato Vesco. Best UFO book ever written. You won’t be so paranoid, and you might even appreciate some of the technology.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw/105-6575798-0963661?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=intercept+ufo+renato+vesco&x=9&y=13


46 posted on 11/09/2007 1:06:55 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Frank_Discussion

No, UFO does NOT mean “alien craft”. UFO is means exactly what it means, Unidentified Flying Object. Something in the sky, that appears to be flying, which is not obviously identifiable. It does NOT mean “alien space craft”. That’s a title you’re applying to “popular culture”.

In fact, if you said “Flying saucer” then you might be talking about “an alien space craft”. Saying “Alien Spacecraft” presupposes you already know that aliens are flying it. Saying UFO means you don’t KNOW what it is.

Let’s not assume because Kucinich or the former Governor of Az were thinking “alien spacecraft”. Well, perhaps the Governor is, because he’s as much as said in interviews he felt it was “controlled by intelligence” and he didn’t say HUMAN intelligence.

But to admit you’ve seen something you can’t identify doesn’t automatically make someone mentally suspect, and I don’t care which side of the political aisle he’s on. (Unless it was Ron Paul, since he’s already proved he’s suspect)


47 posted on 11/09/2007 1:08:04 PM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
Flying Triangles
48 posted on 11/09/2007 1:08:12 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: RetSignman

Everything else in the photo is sitting still, except the moving object. Haven’t you ever taken photos with film before? haha


49 posted on 11/09/2007 1:11:00 PM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: Red Badger
If you see a UFO, how do you know it’s a UFO?............

My wife and I saw a UFO once. I'm pretty sure it was a meteor, but it was never identified.

50 posted on 11/09/2007 1:11:24 PM PST by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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