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Ron Paul supported the PLO terrorists
The Ron Paul Political Report | Volume 1 Number 1 | Ron Paul

Posted on 11/09/2007 12:34:47 PM PST by LSUfan

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To: Allegra
[So, what would constitute a victory in Iraq that would allow us to withdraw our forces and have them march down the streets of New York in a great parade as they did when they won other wars?]

Are you paying any attention at all to what is going on in Iraq right now? To what has been going on as well as what is NOT going on in Iraq for the past three or four months? I know it pains you anti-war types deeply, but the troops are in the process of "ending the war," via VICTORY as opposed to the surrender plan the lefties want so badly.

So, they are going to get that victory parade!

They didn't get one after Korea or Vietnam and we won major military victories in those conflicts as well.

You know why they didn't get the parades they deserve, because no war had been declared.

So, you pro-war types, why don't you start a movement for Congress to actually do what they are suppose to do, and declare war so we as a nation will support it and win it-just like Ron Paul advocated.

I know very well about the 'surge' and how well it is doing, after political decisions prevented our troops from ending this war years ago (we didn't want to offend anyone).

So who are the 'real'conservatives, those who want a real definable victory or those who want to stay with the Democrats and just commit our troops to combat without any clear defined goal in what a victory would consist of.

51 posted on 11/09/2007 2:19:27 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: fortheDeclaration
It is nice to see those who consider them conservatives so willing to have a rational discussion regarding foreign policy. I have seen what constitutes discussion with you guys, and conservative has nothing to do with it...
52 posted on 11/09/2007 2:19:53 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Real voters in real voting booths will elect FDT.)
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To: Allegra

You left off Surrender monkeys after the word lefties...

Otherwise thanks for trying to school these cats...


53 posted on 11/09/2007 2:21:12 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Real voters in real voting booths will elect FDT.)
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To: Deathmonger
So you believe that Reagan would have supported having PLO reps in the UN? Uh, no. But it certainly appears that Ron Paul did. (And probably still does - I've seen nothing indicating he's changed his mind.)

I also think Reagan would be in favor of closing the Palestinian Information Office in Washington. It is at worst a front for organizing terror. At best, I don't see it being anything but a front for stirring up anti-Israel sentiment.

54 posted on 11/09/2007 2:23:16 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: fortheDeclaration

It’s odd that the Paulestinians have forgotten that Congress authorized the use of force in Iraq.


55 posted on 11/09/2007 2:25:17 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Allegra
Has the Commander in Chief defined what would constitute a victory in Iraq?
56 posted on 11/09/2007 2:25:46 PM PST by Abcdefg
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To: fortheDeclaration
So, you pro-war types, why don't you start a movement for Congress to actually do what they are suppose (sic!) to do, and declare war so we as a nation will support it and win it-just like Ron Paul advocated.

We "pro-war" types are busy with the war and with transition activities. We'll have to leave that other stuff to the Ron Paul-worshiping moonbats. We're not worried so much about parades; we're more concerned with the eradication of terror threats to the U.S.

I can see by the rest of your very CNN-isnpired remarks that you appear to be almost choking on those sour grapes you've ingested in the midst of the victory taking place in Iraq.

57 posted on 11/09/2007 2:27:02 PM PST by Allegra (Greetings from a kinder, gentler Iraq. God bless US and Coalition Forces.)
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To: Abcdefg
Has the Commander in Chief defined what would constitute a victory in Iraq?

Why don't you ask him? You're closer in proximity than I am right now.

I knew you aPaulogists would get all surly and bitter when the Peace Train headed for Iraq. LOL

You're not alone. The Democrats and the media share your pain.

58 posted on 11/09/2007 2:29:24 PM PST by Allegra (Greetings from a kinder, gentler Iraq. God bless US and Coalition Forces.)
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To: MEGoody

It is very important to point out that, if Ron Paul had his way in 1991, Saddam would still occupy Kuwait, international inspectors would never have uncovered his chemical, biological and nuclear programs and he would very likely have The Atomic Bomb today.


59 posted on 11/09/2007 2:32:47 PM PST by LSUfan
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To: Allegra
[So, you pro-war types, why don't you start a movement for Congress to actually do what they are suppose (sic!) to do, and declare war so we as a nation will support it and win it-just like Ron Paul advocated.]

We "pro-war" types are busy with the war and with transition activities. We'll have to leave that other stuff to the Ron Paul-worshiping moonbats. We're not worried so much about parades; we're more concerned with the eradication of terror threats to the U.S.

My, you must be very busy people-how do you have time to be in FR?

What transition is going on that will end the war with our troops marching home in victory.

Or is that a secret plan like Kerry had?

Maybe you aren't worried about parades, but the troops deserve them and that is why when we win a war, they get one.

I can see by the rest of your very CNN-isnpired remarks that you appear to be almost choking on those sour grapes you've ingested in the midst of the victory taking place in Iraq.

You mean the military gains that have occurred?

Will they be translated into political ones or squandered like they were in Korea and Vietnam?

60 posted on 11/09/2007 2:36:28 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: MEGoody
It’s odd that the Paulestinians have forgotten that Congress authorized the use of force in Iraq.

They're still crying because Bush didn't issue Letters of Marque and Reprisal.

Because of that, they've been rooting for the terrorists to win and are quite peeved at the recent developments.

61 posted on 11/09/2007 2:37:23 PM PST by Allegra (Greetings from a kinder, gentler Iraq. God bless US and Coalition Forces.)
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To: Allegra
We "pro-war" types are busy with the war and with transition activities. We'll have to leave that other stuff to the Ron Paul-worshiping moonbats. We're not worried so much about parades; we're more concerned with the eradication of terror threats to the U.S.

We thank and honor you for your service, ma'am!

62 posted on 11/09/2007 2:41:26 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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To: MEGoody
It’s odd that the Paulestinians have forgotten that Congress authorized the use of force in Iraq.

And was that a declaration of war?

Why are you guys so hesitant to have the United States to actually declare war and define victory?

That is the authority and responsibility that was given to the Congress by the (gasp!) Constitution.

Maybe some of you 'conservatives' think we don't need that 'archaic' Constitution anymore.

63 posted on 11/09/2007 2:46:16 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: fortheDeclaration
My, you must be very busy people-how do you have time to be in FR?

It's nighttime and the Arabic weekend, so the Iraqi government offices are not open. I'm sure I work harder in an average day here than you do in a week. If you're asking about my down time, my answer is "none of your damn business."

What transition is going on that will end the war with our troops marching home in victory.

I don't owe you any detailed explanations. You can find reports about the transition activities on various sites related to MNFI.

Or is that a secret plan like Kerry had?

You'd know more about Kerry than I would, wouldn't you? Your views are more closely aligned with his than mine will ever be.

Will they be translated into political ones or squandered like they were in Korea and Vietnam?

I don't make those decisions, nor do I have a crystal ball. I am embedded on the military side, not the State Dept. side.

Your snarkiness is just amplifying how bitter you are about the positive developments here.

Just go to your Starbucks job and leave the hard work to those who aren't afraid of it, OK? I detest you smelly anti-war types and I have FReeped you more than once back in '03 at your A.N.S.W.E.R., MoveOn, etc. rallies.

64 posted on 11/09/2007 2:47:08 PM PST by Allegra (Greetings from a kinder, gentler Iraq. God bless US and Coalition Forces.)
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To: LSUfan; All
Paulistinians! So these are the ones that have been voting for Ron Paul in all the online polls.
65 posted on 11/09/2007 2:49:31 PM PST by AKSurprise ("Massachusetts: 10,555 Sq. Miles surrounded by reality.")
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To: Allegra
[My, you must be very busy people-how do you have time to be in FR?]

It's nighttime and the Arabic weekend, so the Iraqi government offices are not open. I'm sure I work harder in an average day here than you do in a week. If you're asking about my down time, my answer is "none of your damn business."

You mean it is the beginning of an Islamic weekend don't you?

[ What transition is going on that will end the war with our troops marching home in victory. ]

I don't owe you any detailed explanations. You can find reports about the transition activities on various sites related to MNFI.

Well, as long as the American people are being kept informed....

[ Or is that a secret plan like Kerry had? ]

You'd know more about Kerry than I would, wouldn't you? Your views are more closely aligned with his than mine will ever be.

No, since you and Kerry are very much alike and are keeping your plans secret.

Must be on a need to know basis and the American people will get the information when the Government is good and ready to give it to them.

[ Will they be translated into political ones or squandered like they were in Korea and Vietnam? ]

I don't make those decisions, nor do I have a crystal ball. I am embedded on the military side, not the State Dept. side.

Gee, and I thought I was talking to the person who had the answers!

Your snarkiness is just amplifying how bitter you are about the positive developments here.

And your arrogance is indicative of the attitude of the elites who think that the American people have no business asking them any questions.

Just go to your Starbucks job and leave the hard work to those who aren't afraid of it, OK? I detest you smelly anti-war types and I have FReeped you more than once back in '03 at your A.N.S.W.E.R., MoveOn, etc. rallies.

Well, since I am an American I have a right to know what is going on or do you think that is too much to ask since it is an American issue?

If anything your post has shown exactly what the problem is, an attitude that thinks it is above any questioning or criticism.

If you are in the government, you work for the American people, we don't work for you.

66 posted on 11/09/2007 3:02:29 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: LSUfan
It is very important to point out that, if Ron Paul had his way in 1991, Saddam would still occupy Kuwait, international inspectors would never have uncovered his chemical, biological and nuclear programs and he would very likely have The Atomic Bomb today.

And he would have used it against Iran, not the USA, and would have saved us loads of trouble.

Instead we attacked the most secular government in the Middle East.

67 posted on 11/09/2007 3:17:56 PM PST by mc6809e
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To: Iwo Jima
I have my differences with Ron Paul on the Iraq war, but this bullshit lying about the good things the man has done is shameful.

What good things? He blames us for 9/11. He feels the terrorists had a good reason for attacking us. He wants to surrender to the terrorists rather than defeating them. He would rather support the PLO than our best friend in the middle east, Israel. And where are there any lies?
68 posted on 11/09/2007 3:38:55 PM PST by rideharddiefast
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To: fortheDeclaration
Ron Paul has the audacity of running on the platform of adhering to the Constitution-the rascal!

Only the parts of the Constitution he wants to adhere to.
69 posted on 11/09/2007 3:41:54 PM PST by rideharddiefast
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To: rideharddiefast
[Ron Paul has the audacity of running on the platform of adhering to the Constitution-the rascal! ]

Only the parts of the Constitution he wants to adhere to.

He believes in all of the Constitution.

And your candidate is?

70 posted on 11/09/2007 3:44:49 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: fortheDeclaration
Maybe you aren't worried about parades, but the troops deserve them and that is why when we win a war, they get one.
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The problem is that the paulie girls do not want to win the war, they want us to surrender. They want to make sure the terrorists see a paper tiger in the U.S. so they are willing to attack us again that way they can blame us for the attacks again. The paulie girls are anti-Israel and anti-America.
71 posted on 11/09/2007 3:52:31 PM PST by rideharddiefast
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To: rideharddiefast
[Maybe you aren't worried about parades, but the troops deserve them and that is why when we win a war, they get one. ]

The problem is that the paulie girls do not want to win the war, they want us to surrender. They want to make sure the terrorists see a paper tiger in the U.S. so they are willing to attack us again that way they can blame us for the attacks again. The paulie girls are anti-Israel and anti-America.

More labels.

The terrorists saw a paper tiger in Clinton's foreign policy, yet no one mentions that in the debates-can't criticize foreign policy decisions-that would be unpatriotic!

And the candidate you support is?

72 posted on 11/09/2007 4:02:06 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: LSUfan

Are you posting this because you disagree with it? I agree with it, why are you in favor of the US government censoring free speech? This title is false.


73 posted on 11/09/2007 4:10:29 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: fortheDeclaration

What good would it do to bring up the mistakes of Paul’s mentor, Bill Clinton’s 10 years ago do in the Republican debate?


74 posted on 11/09/2007 4:14:26 PM PST by rideharddiefast
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To: rideharddiefast
What good would it do to bring up the mistakes of Paul’s mentor, Bill Clinton’s 10 years ago do in the Republican debate?

Let me see, oh, that's right, another Clinton is running with the same foreign policy agenda-the NWO.

The very thing that Ron Paul opposes.

75 posted on 11/09/2007 4:23:28 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: rideharddiefast

I forgot to ask you, and your candidate is?


76 posted on 11/09/2007 4:23:59 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: fortheDeclaration
I will support the Republican who wins the nomination. Which rules out cut and run (He is neither Republican nor will he ever win the nomination). I knew John McCain and I would have a hard time supporting him, but I could over the democratic candidate. But I could NEVER support an anti-American white flag waving terrorist appeasing coward like cut and run.
77 posted on 11/09/2007 4:52:13 PM PST by rideharddiefast
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To: LSUfan
Little Green Footballs is now carrying the story, as well. ;)
78 posted on 11/09/2007 5:31:42 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
LGF just links back to this very same thread here on FR.
79 posted on 11/09/2007 6:30:20 PM PST by Abcdefg
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To: fortheDeclaration
You mean it is the beginning of an Islamic weekend don't you?

I meant exactly what I said.

Well, as long as the American people are being kept informed....

Talk to your media buddies about that. The information is out there for anyone who is interested. If it's good news, the media doesn't want you to know about it. It is not incumbent upon me to separately assemble detailed information for some individual sniveling, anti-war surrender-monkey. My reports follow the chain of authority and are put out for public consumption.

No, since you and Kerry are very much alike and are keeping your plans secret.

See my previous comment. And if you're angling for me to put personal information on a public forum that will compromise my own security or that of those around me, you're more arrogant and self-centered than I thought you were.

Gee, and I thought I was talking to the person who had the answers!

I never claimed to have all of the answers. Those are your words. I have been putting news about OIF out on FR for nearly four years now. If you've missed it, tough toenails. However, I will not violate OPSEC just to satisfy one whining Code Pink member.

Well, since I am an American I have a right to know what is going on or do you think that is too much to ask since it is an American issue?

I told you where to go look. I guess you're too lazy. I guess you expect me to personally serve you. You're delusional. Actually, I have answered many people's questions here on FR if I've known the answer and it hasn't been an OPSEC issue. However, my rules are that you ask politely and you appear incapable of that. Plus, you are not asking specific questions, you are being deliberately vague.

If you are in the government, you work for the American people, we don't work for you.

I am not a government employee. Nice try, though.

You work for the Starbucks manager, correct?

80 posted on 11/10/2007 12:06:05 AM PST by Allegra (Greetings from a kinder, gentler Iraq. God bless US and Coalition Forces.)
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To: Allegra
Their official title is “Keeper of the Froth”
81 posted on 11/10/2007 12:18:34 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Real voters in real voting booths will elect FDT.)
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To: LSUfan; mnehrling; Monterrosa-24; Allegra; lormand; Petronski; ejonesie22; drpix; svcw; ...
Another shock.

On top of the Willis Carto/American Free Press/Council of Conservative Citizens columns/Stormfront-David Duke support, this doesn’t surprise me at all, and personally I think an explanation of this and his 1992 “expose” of the fleet footed, politically foolish, largely criminal population of blacks living among us. Full newsletter article here

The criminals who terrorize our cities--in riots and on every non-riot day--are not exclusively young black males, but they largely are. As children, they are trained to hate whites, to believe that white oppression is responsible for all black ills, to "fight the power," and to steal and loot as much money from the white enemy as possible.

Regardless of what the media tell us, most white Americans are not going to believe that they are at fault for what blacks have done to cities across America. The professional blacks may have cowed the elites, but good sense survives at the grass roots. Many more are going to have difficultly avoiding the belief that our country is being destroyed by a group of actual and potential terrorists -- and they can be identified by the color of their skin. This conclusion may not be entirely fair, but it is, for many, entirely unavoidable.

Indeed, it is shocking to consider the uniformity of opinion among blacks in this country. Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5% of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty, and the end of welfare and affirmative action. I know many who fall into this group personally and they deserve credit--not as representatives of a racial group, but as decent people. They are, however, outnumbered. Of black males in Washington, D.C, between the ages of 18 and 35, 42% are charged with a crime or are serving a sentence, reports the National Center on Institutions and Alternatives. The Center also reports that 70% of all black men in Washington are arrested before they reach the age of 35, and 85% are arrested at some point in their lives. Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the "criminal justice system," I think we can safely assume that 95% of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.

If similar in-depth studies were conducted in other major cities, who doubts that similar results would be produced? We are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, but it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings, and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers.

Perhaps the L.A. experience should not be surprising. The riots, burning, looting, and murders are only a continuation of 30 years of racial politics. The looting in L.A. was the welfare state without the voting booth. The elite have sent one message to black America for 30 years: you are entitled to something for nothing. That's what blacks got on the streets of L.A. for three days in April. Only they didn't ask their Congressmen to arrange the transfer.

Blacks have "civil riqhts," preferences, set-asides for government contracts, gerrymandered voting districts, black bureaucracies, black mayors, black curricula in schools, black beauty contests, black tv shows, black tv anchors, black scholorships and colleges, hate crime laws, and public humiliation for anyone who dares question the black agenda.

Two years ago, in a series of predictions for the 1990s, I said that race riots would erupt in our large cities. I'm now predicting this will be the major problem of the 1990s.

The good news, Paul (or someone) does correct predict the rise of a terror threat in the 1990s. Of course it’s the blacks and their ideology and culture, not the rational Islamists reacting to colonialization.

The Paul excuse is that though the article is signed by Ron Paul, and printed in the $50 per year Ron Paul Political Report, those aren’t his statistics and opinions, he didn’t actually write it, and apparently never read it.

The remedy, an apology, appropriate. A refusal to identify the individual Paul trusted with his name. IMO, unacceptable for a Presidential candidate. This individual was obviously close to Paul, given the years long gap between publication and discovery may reflect Paul’s views, and may well still be close to him. And a refusal to release other copies of the publication so the public can see just what Paul was advocating over those years. And yes, the link above, the only complete article from the newsletter was posted to usenet by a well known white supremacist.

These excerpts clearly address the issue of newsletter content. From a NYT magazine interview, The Antiwar, Anti-Abortion, Anti-Drug-Enforcement- Administration, Anti-Medicare Candidacy of Dr. Ron Paul , earlier this year,

Paul survived these revelations. He later explained that he had not written the passages himself — quite believably, since the style diverges widely from his own. But his response to the accusations was not transparent. When Morris called on him to release the rest of his newsletters, he would not. He remains touchy about it. “Even the fact that you’re asking this question infers, ‘Oh, you’re an anti-Semite,’ ” he told me in June. Actually, it doesn’t. Paul was in Congress when Israel bombed Iraq’s Osirak nuclear plant in 1981 and — unlike the United Nations and the Reagan administration — defended its right to do so. He says Saudi Arabia has an influence on Washington equal to Israel’s. His votes against support for Israel follow quite naturally from his opposition to all foreign aid. There is no sign that they reflect any special animus against the Jewish state.

What is interesting is Paul’s idea that the identity of the person who did write those lines is “of no importance.” Paul never deals in disavowals or renunciations or distancings, as other politicians do. In his office one afternoon in June, I asked about his connections to the John Birch Society. “Oh, my goodness, the John Birch Society!” he said in mock horror. “Is that bad? I have a lot of friends in the John Birch Society. They’re generally well educated, and they understand the Constitution. I don’t know how many positions they would have that I don’t agree with. Because they’re real strict constitutionalists, they don’t like the war, they’re hard-money people. . . . ”

Paul’s ideological easygoingness is like a black hole that attracts the whole universe of individuals and groups who don’t recognize themselves in the politics they see on TV. To hang around with his impressively large crowd of supporters before and after the CNN debate in Manchester, N.H., in June, was to be showered with privately printed newsletters full of exclamation points and capital letters, scribbled-down U.R.L.’s for Web sites about the Free State Project, which aims to turn New Hampshire into a libertarian enclave, and copies of the cult DVD “America: Freedom to Fascism.”

It strikes me that a request to release the newsletters is perfectly reasonable, but in no way could be an attempt to paint him as an anti-Semite. Racist, I suppose you could make that charge, but why antisemite? Unless unbeknownst to the world they contained questionable antisemitic content.

All in all, an embarrassment for the Republican Party. Paul should make his newsletters public and name the author, else the charge that they were simply survivalist/white supremacist/militia garbage will stick. The GOP doesn’t need what Medved refers to as a candidate for neonazis in the race. Paul needs to clear these issues as best as he can.

82 posted on 11/10/2007 3:26:04 AM PST by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

High Volume. Articles on Israel can also be found by clicking on the Topic or Keyword Israel. or WOT [War on Terror]

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For those who are interested in Paul, my opinion of the newsletters and the action that needs to be taken in post 82. Unfortunately when coupled with support for the Republican candidate from the white supremecist/neonazi community, this is a potential embarassment for the GOP. Other newsletter articles.

Ron Paul: Israel bought Jesse Helms

RON PAUL ACCUSED U.S. TROOPS OF WAR CRIMES IN DESERT STORM

Ron Paul: US "military is mowing civilians down in the streets"

Ron Paul: Clinton didn't cut defense enough

RON PAUL ON DEFENSE SPENDING

Ron Paul: Traitor had direct line to President Reagan

83 posted on 11/10/2007 3:47:27 AM PST by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: Allegra
I told you where to go look. I guess you're too lazy. I guess you expect me to personally serve you. You're delusional.

;)

84 posted on 11/10/2007 4:29:41 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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To: Allegra

Oh My! From under what rock did this knobhead crawl?


85 posted on 11/10/2007 5:16:26 AM PST by wazoo1031
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To: SeafoodGumbo

Is she competing for Miss Most Out Of Shape or Miss Worst Dressed?


86 posted on 11/10/2007 6:11:15 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Heeeheee....love the graphic! :-)


87 posted on 11/10/2007 6:13:54 AM PST by Allegra (Greetings from a kinder, gentler Iraq. God bless US and Coalition Forces.)
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To: wazoo1031
Oh My! From under what rock did this knobhead crawl?

Which one? HAHA

88 posted on 11/10/2007 6:14:49 AM PST by Allegra (Greetings from a kinder, gentler Iraq. God bless US and Coalition Forces.)
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To: Abcdefg

Don’t respond to these threads, it’s ban bait.


89 posted on 11/10/2007 6:22:22 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: LSUfan

ANY INFO ON RON PAUL WITH ANTISEMITIC SENTIMENTS?

Mrs. Esopman


90 posted on 11/10/2007 7:29:51 AM PST by esopman (Blessings on Freepers Everywhere (and Their Most Intelligent Designer))
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To: fortheDeclaration; rideharddiefast
And your candidate is?

A human being with flaws. Someone with whom I am not obsessed and do not worship. Just the candidate who most closely espouses my own views. And it sure as hell isn't a blame-America surrender monkey.

Can't relate to that concept, can you?

91 posted on 11/10/2007 8:25:37 AM PST by Allegra (Greetings from a kinder, gentler Iraq. God bless US and Coalition Forces.)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

You see this all over the place. Over at YouTube and other forums where far-leftists express dismay that Hillary won’t immediately pull out of Iraq, the Ron Paul advocates tell them to switch to the Republicans for “real change” and a “real anti-war candidate.” Liberals, all.


92 posted on 11/10/2007 8:38:38 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: fortheDeclaration
And was that a declaration of war?

Certainly. If you disagree, please show from the constitution itself how an actual declaration of war would differ. Not YOUR opinion, but what the constitution actually says a bill must say in order to constitute a declaration of war, and how that differs from the approval given by Congress.

I won't hold my breath waiting. . .you won't be able to do so.

93 posted on 11/10/2007 7:30:18 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Allegra
Because of that, they've been rooting for the terrorists to win and are quite peeved at the recent developments.

They are as nutty as Pelosi and company.

94 posted on 11/10/2007 7:31:26 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: LSUfan
It is very important to point out that, if Ron Paul had his way in 1991, Saddam would still occupy Kuwait, international inspectors would never have uncovered his chemical, biological and nuclear programs and he would very likely have The Atomic Bomb today.

Thank God, Ronnie didn't have his way.

95 posted on 11/10/2007 7:32:08 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Deathmonger

Post #28 well said, clapping hands here.


96 posted on 11/10/2007 7:33:15 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Dead Corpse
DC, I appreciate your defense of Paul's conservatism even though you realize (like I do) that he's wrong on the WOT.

At least you don't resort to snide name-calling like the other guys.

97 posted on 11/10/2007 7:45:16 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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On the bash of Dole and Kemp for supporting the closing of the PLO offices in the US, it’s worth noting he also praised Matti Peled, a member of the Israeli Knesset for opposing the bill.

Matti Peled was elected as a member of the Progressive List for Peace, a small party who elected 2 candidates in the 1980s. The party was, in fact, banned on the basis of negation of the existence of the State of Israel as the state of the Jewish people over their support for either a one state solution, or a “right of return” to Israel for all Arabs. The Israeli Supreme Court overturned the ban.

Interesting, the “true Republican” attacks Dole and Kemp, and lauds the Israeli extreme left.

98 posted on 11/11/2007 3:16:58 AM PST by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: LSUfan
A LEAD BALLOON to Jack Kemp (R-NY) and Bob Dole (R-KS) who have introduced legislation to forcibly close the Palestinian Information Office in Washington. They would also ban delegates from the Palestinian Liberation Organization at the United Nations.

So did this legislation come to a recorded vote? Might be interesting to look back and see who else opposed it...

The UN always seems to be up to something anti-American, which is why I agree with Ron Paul that we should stop sending them money.
99 posted on 11/11/2007 3:45:59 AM PST by publiusF27
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To: Iwo Jima; LSUfan
The full text of every single Ron Paul statement earlier referenced by LSUfan is right here.

You called a fellow FReeper a liar. Plainly, he was not.

Butch up, and apologize.

100 posted on 11/11/2007 5:34:26 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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