Posted on 11/10/2007 6:57:59 AM PST by Dick Bachert
Here is what Denmark is doing to correct the problem that crept up on them in all of their goodness.....
A must read for Americans & Canadians, our politicians need a wake-up call!!!!!!!!
In 1978-9 I was living and studying in Denmark . But in 1978 - even in Copenhagen , one didn't see Muslim immigrants. The Danish population embraced visitors, celebrated the exotic, went out of its way to protect each of its citizens. It was proud of its new brand of socialist liberalism - one in development since the conservatives had lost power in 1929 - a system where no worker had to struggle to survive, where one ultimately could count upon the state as in, perhaps, no other western nation at the time. The rest of Europe saw the Scandinavians as free-thinking, progressive and infinitely generous in their welfare policies. Denmark boasted low crime rates, devotion to the environment, a superior educational system and a history of humanitarianism.
Denmark was also most generous in its immigration policies - it offered the best welcome in Europe to the new immigrant: generous welfare payments from first arrival plus additional perks in transportation, housing and education. It was determined to set a world example for inclusiveness and multiculturalism. How could it have predicted that one day in 2005 a series of political cartoons in a newspaper would spark violence that would leave dozens dead in the streets - all because its commitment to multiculturalism would come back to bite?
By the 1990's the growing urban Muslim population was obvious - and its unwillingness to integrate into Danish society was obvious. Years of immigrants had settled into Muslim-exclusive enclaves. As the Muslim leadership became more vocal about what they considered the decadence of Denmark 's liberal way of life, the Danes - once so welcoming - began to feel slighted. Many Danes had begun to see Islam as incompatible with their long-standing values: belief in personal liberty and free speech, in equality for women, in tolerance for other ethnic groups, and a deep pride in Danish heritage and history.
The New York Post in 2002 ran an article by Daniel Pipes and Lars Hedegaard, in which they forecasted accurately that the growing immigrant problem in Denmark would explode. In the article they reported: "Muslim immigrants constitute 5 percent of the population but consume upwards of
40 percent of the welfare spending." "Muslims are only 4 percent of Denmark's 5.4 million people but make up a majority of the country's convicted rapists, an especially combustible issue given that practically all the female victims are non-Muslim. Similar, if lesser, disproportions are found in other crimes." "Over time, as Muslim immigrants increase in numbers, they wish less to mix with the indigenous population. A recent survey finds that only 5 percent of young Muslim immigrants would readily marry a Dane." "Forced marriages - promising a newborn daughter in Denmark to a male cousin in the home country, then compelling her to marry him, sometimes on pain of death - are one problem"
"Muslim leaders openly declare their goal of introducing Islamic law once Denmark 's Muslim population grows large enough - a not-that-remote prospect. If present trends persist, one sociologist estimates, every third inhabitant of Denmark in 40 years will be Muslim." It is easy to understand why a growing number of Danes would feel that Muslim immigrants show little respect for Danish values and laws. An example is the phenomenon common to other European countries and the U.S. : some Muslims in Denmark who opted to leave the Muslim faith have been murdered in the name of Islam, while others hide in fear for their lives.
Jews are also threatened and harassed openly by Muslim leaders in Denmark, a country where once Christian citizens worked to smuggle out nearly all of their 7,000 Jews by night to Sweden - before the Nazis could invade. I think of my Danish friend Elsa - who as a teenager had dreaded crossing the street to the bakery every morning under the eyes of occupying Nazi soldiers - and I wonder what she would say today.
In 2001, Denmark elected the most conservative government in some 70 years - one that had some decidedly non-generous ideas about liberal unfettered immigration. Today Denmark has the strictest immigration policies in Europe . ( Its effort to protect itself has been met with accusations of "racism" by liberal media across Europe - even as other governments struggle to right the social problems wrought by years of too-lax immigration.)
If you wish to become Danish, you must attend three years of language classes. You must pass a test on Denmark's history, culture, and a Danish language test. You must live in Denmark for 7 years before applying for citizenship. You must demonstrate an intent to work, and have a job waiting.
If you wish to bring a spouse into Denmark , you must both be over 24 years of age, and you won't find it so easy anymore to move your friends and family to Denmark with you You will not be allowed to build a mosque in Copenhagen . Although your children have a choice of some 30 Arabic culture and language schools in Denmark , they will be strongly encouraged to assimilate to Danish society in ways that past immigrants weren't.
In 2006, the Danish minister for employment, Claus Hjort Frederiksen, spoke publicly of the burden of Muslim immigrants on the Danish welfare system, and it was horrifying: the government's welfare committee had calculated that if immigration from Third World countries were blocked, 75 percent of the cuts needed to sustain the huge welfare system in coming decades would be unnecessary. In other words, the welfare system as it existed was being exploited by immigrants to the point of eventually bankrupting the government. "We are simply forced to adopt a new policy on immigration. The calculations of the welfare committee are terrifying and show how unsuccessful the integration of immigrants has been up to now," he said.
A large thorn in the side of Denmark 's imams is the Minister of Immigration and Integration, Rikke Hvilshoj. She makes no bones about the new policy toward immigration, "The number of foreigners coming to the country makes a difference," Hvilshøj says, "There is an inverse correlation between how many come here and how well we can receive the foreigners that come." And on Muslim immigrants needing to demonstrate a willingness to blend in, "In my view, Denmark should be a country with room for different cultures and religions. Some values, however, are more important than others. We refuse to question democracy, equal rights, and freedom of speech." Hvilshoj has paid a price for her show of backbone. Perhaps to test her resolve, the leading radical imam in Denmark, Ahmed Abdel Rahman Abu Laban, demanded that the government pay blood money to the family of a Muslim who was murdered in a suburb of Copenhagen, stating that the family's thirst for revenge could be thwarted for money. When Hvilshoj dismissed his demand, he argued that in Muslim culture the payment of retribution money was common, to which Hvilshoj replied that what is done in a Muslim country is not necessarily what is done in Denmark. The Muslim reply came soon after: her house was torched while she, her husband and children slept. All managed to escape unharmed, but she and her family were moved to a secret location and she and other ministers were assigned bodyguards for the first time - in a country where such murderous violence was once so scarce.
Her government has slid to the right, and her borders have tightened. Many believe that what happens in the next decade will determine whether Denmark survives as a bastion of good living, humane thinking and social responsibility, or whether it becomes a nation at civil war with supporters of Sharia law. And meanwhile, Americans clamor for stricter immigration policies, and demand an end to state welfare programs that allow many immigrants to live on the public dole. As we in America look at the enclaves of Muslims amongst us, and see those who enter our shores too easily, dare live on our taxes, yet refuse to embrace our culture, respect our traditions, participate in our legal system, obey our laws, speak our language, appreciate our history . . we would do well to look to Denmark, and say a prayer for her future and for our own.
I can’t see what they have really done to stop it. They have one minister, who house has been burned down, standing up to the BS. But demographically, the Danes are doomed.
The refusal to reproduce is at the core of all this.
The refusal to reproduce is not at the core of all this. The Danes would be fine with fewer Muslims. The Muslims are the problem, not the Danes. If the two groups tryed to out-breed each other, would that solve anything?
It is the fact that Westerners have largely stopped reproducing that 1) caused governments to increase immigration in order to have more workers paying into social security systems, and 2) have allowed the proportions of said immigrants to grow rapidly.
“comprende?” Yeah, we do now, but it take a while sometimes.
Some years ago, I worked at a local food bank. We worked closely with the Catholic church. One of the sisters there brought a “poor” Mexican girl to us. She was seven months pregnant and suposedly had been thrown out of the house in a neighboring town after she’d gotten pregnant. Suposedly she had no friends here in our town. The church didn’t know what to do with her and so we took her in on our ranch. We had a guest house and even hired a carpentier to remodel it somewhat more to her liking. We bought her a new bed and mattresses and all new bed and bath linen. things went OK for about a week, but after that she moved in the entire Mexican national guard. First it was her brother who stayed a week since it was Christmas and she was lonely. many days someone picked her up to go shopping. She’d come home late and refuse the supper we’d prepared saying she’d had a Dr.Pepper and cupcakes at the mall. One night I discovered when calling her to dinner that she had three babies she was baby sitting over night for a “friend.” We told her she couldn’t do that any more since the guest house was only twenty feet from an unfenced swimming pool.
She didn’t have a job and my husband told me to give her
5o.00 a week since the baby was coming and he was sure she’d be needing s few personal things. One Sunday a Mexican man came in a big fancy truck to visit her. He brought along his pit bulldog which attacked our dog and almost killed it My husband had to run him off. When I asked her why this man was coming to visit her, she said he needed TO BORROW SOME MONEY!!!
Day after day I begged her to go with me to pick out a baby bed. She always had something else to do??? Only later did I learn they don’t use baby beds——they put their babies in a spare dresser drawer! We treated her as one of our own and showered her with Christmas gifts of clothing, makeup, and baby clothes.
She had the church come get her a week before the baby came. Said my husband was always “looking” at her funny and she was uncomfortable here. Seems she went to some “friends.”
The baby was paid for by our county, not hers, and her entire family came to the hospital to “ooh and ahh” over it after her “sin” didn’t “show.”
There really is a simple solution to all this, which is to have more Danish children. It’s not like they need an instruction manual...they just need to do it.
In every instance Hispanics were not just the majority, they were the overwhelming majority. While many of them were polite, there was a growing constituency of those who had an air of entitlement. Soon most of the volunteers were Spanish-speaking as there was a lot of "no comprendo" when we spoke in English.
I can speak a bit of Spanish, but that is Castillian and barely understood by most. I didn't use it anyway as I figured the least they could do is learn to speak English when asking for handouts.
After a year of that crap, seeing the same old faces and many new ones with the same attitude, both of us quit. I then went in to tutoring Middle School readers who were below grade level. I figured that most of them would be Hispanic (correct) as the kids tried to learn English. At least they were willing. However, the teachers told me that the big problem was the fathers, who wouldn't let the kids read or speak English at home. "Spanish is your heritage." they were told.
Apparently most of the illegals don't want to become Americans, just live like them.
Thanks for the link!
I sent this piece to my email lists and a good friend replied questioning how the numbers of muslims could have this much influence on a nation’s policies.
My reply follows.
I’ve seen estimates as high as 5% in some tables.
Cold, raw percentage cannot disclose the stridency of the muslims (vs. the apathy of the indigenous population) and the impact that resolve imparts to their numbers.
Dedicated minorities have frequently carried movements to successful conclusions. The American Revolution was one of them. It’s the old “5-5-90 Rule:” 5% MAKE things happen, 5% WATCH them happen and 90% look around, scratch their heads and ask “What the hell just happened?”
France is today between 8 and 10% muslim and the French just tolerated a good bit of muslim street violence in the name of diversity. I understand that a number of French schools have dropped all instruction re. the Holocaust lest their muslim students be “offended.” That’s beginning to happen HERE in some systems.
Make no mistake that many of these zealots ARE dedicated to the koranic command to impose their faith on the entire world. And, unlike genuine Christianity and most other faiths, they will do so — also by koranic command — by the sword if necessary.
We will either resist them or submit.
I choose resistance.
Be safe and have a wonderful Christmas Holiday as it may be one of the last we’ll be allowed to celebrate here.
Yep, the western abortion holocaust DOES have a price we may regret having to pay.
Their "longstanding belief" stood just long enough actually to begin to have to deal with "other ethnic groups." Northern Europeans for years looked down their noses at the US because of racial and ethnic tensions here, ignoring the fact that they enjoyed the luxury of essential cultural and racial homogeneity. If the US population had been virtually exclusively English extraction all these years we would have had similar harmony. As an open society we did the hard work and are still at it, but the euro's act as if they are rudely surprised and shocked by reality crashing in on their cozy bubble.
This is an inevitable reaction to the fostering and reinforcement of dependency. Counterintuitively perhaps, dependent status breeds hostility against the source of support. Entitlement is a manifestation of that hostility, which is the antidote to shame for being exposed to oneself as inadequate.
America Alone by Mark Steyn details this problem. Europe is down to 1.7 children per couple, while Muslims are at 3.66. In 35 years the white population in Europe will be half as large as it is today. By 2040, the Muslims outnumber them.
In my opinion, Europe is a goner.
Lee Rogers, a San Francisco KSFO radio interviewer, reports that white flight from Europe has begun. He says that England used to have 300 applications a week to leave; it is now up to 4,000. He also reports that 400,000 have recently moved out.
Am I the only one who is noticing all the English accents on the streets here in SF and in the national media?
Two truths must me made obvious to everyone:
1) No Muslims, Christians or Jews have ever successfully negotiated with the Islamofascists.
2) When Islamofascists achieve large enough numbers, they kill any infrastructure they don’t control.
The idea that you have immigration to bring in workers clearly ISN’T panning out if most of them are on welfare. Its the equivalent of paying your enemies to conquer you. Liberalism is truely insanity.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Your story reminds me of one told by a nurse in Las Vegas. At the biggest hospital there, most of the babies are anchors. She said the mothers had no interest in the babies, but they were busy inviting in all their ‘amigos’ to party all night. She said the hospital was an absolute mess.
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