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NBC's Green Fraud
RealClearPolitics ^ | November 10, 2007 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 11/10/2007 8:23:32 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

'WE have turned out the lights in the studio," NBC's Bob Costas told viewers of Sunday's Dallas Cowboys-Philadelphia Eagles game, "to kick off a week that will include more than 150 hours of programming designed to raise awareness about environmental issues." Discerning viewers with eyes keen enough to pierce the sanctimonious glare of Costas' candlelit silhouette may have noticed that the stadium's klieg lights still shone brightly. On a typical game day, a large football stadium burns about 65,000 kilowatt hours of electricity and 35,000 cubic feet of natural gas. The cars driving to the game spew about 200 metric tons of CO2 (and that assumes nobody's driving SUVs or RVs, which is like assuming tailgaters are eating only sushi). There's also the electricity used to broadcast the game and to watch it. But thank goodness Costas turned off the studio lights for a minute or two.

NBC's "Green Week" continued apace: Morbidly obese contestants on "The Biggest Loser" lugged piles of recyclable cans up ramps and into enormous collection bins. Of course, the cans were delivered to the stunt by diesel truck. So a lot of energy - and sweat! - that could have been used toward fermenting homebrew tofu (or whatever energy is supposed to be used for) was wasted on viewer schadenfreude.

The winners of the challenge each received a hybrid SUV. Alas, one of the winners didn't own a car to begin with, so the net result was one more car on the road and a little more CO2 in the air.

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Spot on.
1 posted on 11/10/2007 8:23:33 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is amazing to me how much self-righteousness these guys can work up over stunts that at best do nothing positive, and quite often are a net negative for the environment.


2 posted on 11/10/2007 8:27:41 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

NBC’s green campaign during the Sunday night football game has motivated me: I’m going to save energy by not watching NBC anymore.


3 posted on 11/10/2007 8:29:56 AM PST by 04-Bravo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Liberals ALWAYS need a self created CRISIS:

“You do know that the parent company of NBC is General Electric, right? You do know that for GE, green is first and foremost the color of money, right? As Tim Carney explains in vivid detail in his wonderful book, “The Big Ripoff,” GE’s “ecomagination” campaign is simultaneously a way to brand itself as a “progressive” company and a means of shaking the money tree - the most sustainable planting of them all - growing in Congress’ backyard.”


4 posted on 11/10/2007 8:31:03 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The best little gem of the entire week.....

The Rockefeller Christmas tree arrived this week. The hypocrites on the Today show lamented that “to save energy” the tree was cut by hand saws instead of chainsaws wasting all that horrific gasoline......but it was shipped into NY on a flatbed semi truck...

As long as they feel “good” about it is all that matters....


6 posted on 11/10/2007 8:31:27 AM PST by submarinerswife ("If I win I can't be stopped! If I lose I shall be dead." - George S. Patton)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

During the game Sunday night, we saw a lot of Blue!!!!!!


7 posted on 11/10/2007 8:31:40 AM PST by Perdogg (Elections have consequences.)
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To: Sherman Logan

When the global company launched the ecomagination campaign, guess where it held the launch party? Its D.C. lobbying office, of course.

While sipping wine made at a solar-powered winery, GE chief Jeffrey Immelt proclaimed, “Industry cannot solve the problems of the world alone. We need to work in concert with government.”

Translation: The King Kong of the corporate world needs tax breaks, subsidies and favorable regulations to make green technology profitable. Indeed, GE has nearly cornered the market on the solar panels necessary to implement Kyoto-style reforms. Global-warming hysteria is good for its bottom line.

Liberals and environmentalists love to whine about special breaks for corporations, and they work themselves into paroxysms of paranoia about how big corporations propagandize against action on climate change. The reality is exactly the opposite: GE, DuPont, British Petroleum and countless other big corporations routinely propagandize in the other direction, largely to win governmental support they don’t need.


8 posted on 11/10/2007 8:32:01 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Think how much better the world would be if NBC and it’s affiliates turned off all the lights and went home.


9 posted on 11/10/2007 8:32:12 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: Lil'freeper

Exposed. Makes me see red.


10 posted on 11/10/2007 8:32:59 AM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Universally dull and stupid.
11 posted on 11/10/2007 8:35:29 AM PST by Richard Axtell (Keith Oberman represents the nadir of American journalism.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
But so long as environmentalists approve of the message, they've got no problem whatsoever with the messengers.

The ends always justifies the means to socialists and intentions are more important than results. It has always been that way throughout history....So what if people have to die or if the exact opposite of the stated intent happens: it's "for the children."

You know this is just one more reason to bring on the fairness doctrine and regulate the Internet....b/c people like you are just trying to ruin everything! (said in best liberal whine)
12 posted on 11/10/2007 8:35:30 AM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I recall Lightbulb Johnson (LBJ) turning out the lights at the Whitehouse....publicity stunt all the way.


13 posted on 11/10/2007 8:36:15 AM PST by stboz
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To: submarinerswife
but it was shipped into NY on a flatbed semi truck...

Oh come on, the truck was going there anyway. /s

14 posted on 11/10/2007 8:37:54 AM PST by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: submarinerswife
the tree was cut by hand saws instead of chainsaws wasting all that horrific gasoline

LOL How much energy do they think the lights are going to use? the twits are probably debating whether or not they should use candles to light the thing. Actually they are probably thinking that the tree shouldn't go up at all...it is oppressive after all!
15 posted on 11/10/2007 8:39:33 AM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: big'ol_freeper
"Green is the new black" according to fashion writers

Green is the new red, according to political scientists.

16 posted on 11/10/2007 8:43:10 AM PST by Defiant ("Expectorate" has Specter in it.)
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To: Sherman Logan

If they halved the pay for NBC’s top execs they’d actually be doing something. Every item has an energy signature. The less a person spends, the smaller his carbon footprint. NBC tries to play us all for fools.


17 posted on 11/10/2007 8:44:37 AM PST by GOPJ (Hillary "tricky Dick" Nixon/Clinton. - Stiff a waitress - lie about it. Plant questions - lie more)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Of course their target audience is the “Sheeple”, democrats, greenies, left-wing lunatics, these are the “the sky is falling, the sky is falling” idiots who believe this Climate change cr@p!!


18 posted on 11/10/2007 8:46:20 AM PST by PROCON
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To: Defiant

Good one .
This GREEN thing is just a fad , all bullsh*t .


19 posted on 11/10/2007 8:48:14 AM PST by sonic109
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I was not a believer, but NBC Green Weak changed my mind.

NBC is run by PR Whores.

20 posted on 11/10/2007 9:02:41 AM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Jonah Goldberg observes the Left suspends its normal loathing of capitalism and the marketplace if business promotes a politically correct message.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

21 posted on 11/10/2007 9:05:45 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: nmh
"GE has nearly cornered the market on the solar panels ..."

No they haven't. "BP has been involved in solar power since 1973 and its subsidiary, BP Solar, is now one of the world's largest solar power companies..." from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photovoltaic cheers

22 posted on 11/10/2007 9:05:56 AM PST by theymakemesick (End welfare and the crops will be picked)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Glenn Beck brought up a couple of interesting facts yesterday.

Seems that GE, PARENT COMPANY of NBC, bought out some (all?) of ENRON's interests in "alternative energy sources" and carbon trading.

They're corporate whores and nothing more, trying to line their own pockets.

23 posted on 11/10/2007 9:06:56 AM PST by OKSooner
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To: MaxMax
Oh come on, the truck was going there anyway. /s Thank you, Arianna Huffington.

These people really think we are a bunch of twits who are drooling at the chance to be shown the way by the far more intelligent god-like beings at NBC.

makes me want to puke.

24 posted on 11/10/2007 9:10:42 AM PST by submarinerswife ("If I win I can't be stopped! If I lose I shall be dead." - George S. Patton)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Jonah’s been a good writer for a long time.


25 posted on 11/10/2007 9:16:06 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

26 posted on 11/10/2007 9:18:38 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I noticed last night on Deal or No Deal that the studio lights were as bright as always. Even had Kermit the Frog as a guest (he is green, right). The models on the show had green tips for the viewers like “take your own bags to the grocery store”. Oh Boy!


27 posted on 11/10/2007 9:24:44 AM PST by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: submarinerswife
The best little gem of the entire week

Perfect. BTW, where did the tree come from?

28 posted on 11/10/2007 9:30:04 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Lancey Howard

What year is that Time cover? I’d like to get some copys of it and hang them around


29 posted on 11/10/2007 9:45:51 AM PST by sonic109
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To: nmh

Isn’t GE making all those EXPENSIVE light bulbs that they are pushing for people to buy??? Reg. bulbs are like 50 cents...the new ones are $8.00.


30 posted on 11/10/2007 9:57:45 AM PST by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her PHONINESS is REAL!!!)
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To: nmh
Anyone see Friday's episode of Las Vegas? It actually was pretty well done - they had Dalinda Deline (who is always flying off the handle about some cause or other) decide that she wanted to make the Montecito hotel "go green". Toward the end of the show, she was put in her place by the hotel owner, played by Tom Selleck, who told her that, while it's good to be environmentally conscious, if it were taken too far, then people would be out of work. He told her that if he followed her recommendations, he might as well just shut the doors of the casino, heck, even the whole Las Vegas strip should just shut down.

I watch NBC for Chuck, Journeyman, The Office, Friday Night Lights, and Las Vegas. Chuck is the best show on any network right now, mostly because of Yvonne Strahovski:


31 posted on 11/10/2007 10:02:22 AM PST by RightFighter
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To: hinckley buzzard
Perfect. BTW, where did the tree come from?

Some guy's yard in Connecticut.

32 posted on 11/10/2007 10:12:45 AM PST by submarinerswife ("If I win I can't be stopped! If I lose I shall be dead." - George S. Patton)
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To: sonic109
I don't know who created that ingenious cover, and I have no idea how you would, "get some copys of it and hang them around," but it was posted at Six Meat Buffet some time back.

Good luck!
LH

33 posted on 11/10/2007 10:42:43 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Beowulf

~~ AGW™ ping~~


34 posted on 11/10/2007 12:12:56 PM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: Suzy Quzy

What a SHARP person you are!

Sheepishly I say, that escaped me ... .


35 posted on 11/10/2007 12:40:27 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: OKSooner; honolulugal; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; gruffwolf; BlessedBeGod; ...

FReepmail me to get on or off


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36 posted on 11/10/2007 4:37:40 PM PST by Reform Canada (Kyoto=>More Unemployment=>More Poverty=>More Homeless=>More Crime=>More Rape & Murder)
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To: submarinerswife

I wonder if the woodcutters used a 2-handled rip saw or a sabre saw?


37 posted on 11/10/2007 6:55:29 PM PST by tillacum
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To: socialismisinsidious

Regulate the Internet? Uh-huh. This isn’t Communist China. How are they going to monitor every forum post, every email and every Podcast?


38 posted on 11/10/2007 7:02:31 PM PST by coydog (Keep Canada green - paint a Liberal!)
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To: submarinerswife
To really make an environmental statement, I think the tree should have been cut down with stone tools. After all, metallurgy leaves a big carbon footprint.
39 posted on 11/10/2007 11:54:09 PM PST by attiladhun2 (Islam is a despotism so vile that it would warm the heart of Orwell's Big Brother)
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To: socialismisinsidious
You know this is just one more reason to bring on the fairness doctrine and regulate the Internet....b/c people like you are just trying to ruin everything! (said in best liberal whine)

You forgot to mention (again in liberal whine) how W and the "evil neocons" are eroding our civil liberties due to the Patriot Act and horrible places like Gitmo.

Then again, irony would be lost on the DUmmies!

40 posted on 11/11/2007 7:33:57 AM PST by ssaftler (Which Al is more deadly: Al Qaeda or Al Gore?)
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To: coydog
This isn’t Communist China

Ah yes, but under Clinton we will be well on our way. If you remember Hiltery talked about regulating the Internet when her hubbie was busy with the Intern...she felt that some web sites were defaming and people's privacy rights were protected.

How are they going to monitor every forum post, every email and every Podcast?

The same way they will regulate what is said on the radio...by making it impossible to follow the rules and making the fines and penalties so oppressive that even an attempt at following the rules wouldn't be worth it.

check it out: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1491134/posts
41 posted on 11/11/2007 7:38:39 AM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe someone could splain something to me. I live in a TVA zone where all our electricity comes from a hydro-electric dam. So, if I shut off more lights, a barrel of water stays in the lake? Does LA and NYC get their power from burning unleaded or what? If saving electricity is so important, why is it $.06 per KWH?


42 posted on 11/11/2007 7:57:26 AM PST by Boiling point (The Indians had a bad immigration policy and look what happened to them!)
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To: socialismisinsidious

Nothing stops anyone from setting up an offshore server and doing it that way, or doing email lists which aren’t out in the open. Technology will find a way.


43 posted on 11/11/2007 11:20:50 AM PST by coydog (Keep Canada green - paint a Liberal!)
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To: sonic109

You gotta love the story at the top center: “Why we can’t beat the Soviets.” Traitors always.


44 posted on 11/11/2007 7:27:59 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What’s even more ludicrous about the PR stunt is that it accomplished nothing tangible... zero, zip, zilch. Costas said it wasn’t going to change the world to turn off the studio lights for the evening, but it was a small part. In other words, if all of you “little people” will only sacrifice the world will be better.

Phooey.

Costas gave his message behind half a dozen candles, as though burning candles was morally superior to burning kilowatt hours. Guess which emits more CO2 (although that’s not really a problem, but that’s a whole separate issue), candles or a few lights?

Next, the entire fradulent exercise took place in the evening, when the power is base load. Someone can correct me if I’m wrong, but power generation involves base load and peaking power. Base load power comes from big nuke, coal, and hydro power sources. It cannot be easily ramped up and down. So, base load is set to cover the minimum demand over a 24 hour period. When a million air conditioners kick in during the afternoon, the extra demand is met with peaking plants.

Peaking plants are often combined cycle combustion turbines, which are relatively cheap to build and burn oil or gas. You can ramp them up and ramp them down.

Cut afternoon air conditioning use and combustion turbines can be throttled back. Cut evening lighting use in a TV studio and the base load plants still burn energy. For NBC to make a tangible difference, the lights would need to be permanently cut. An evening’s cut is not really any reduction because the base load plant is still pumping out kWhs.

Of course, this is not entirely accurate today. Because of NIMBY and environmental zealots, utilities find it difficult and risky to build base load generation capacity, so some have turned to turbines as part of their base load. The risk is less and if oil and gas jumps, the public utility commission lets them pass the premium along to the rate base, increasing regulated profits. Too bad if electricity prices are higher than necessary as long as the regulated utility profits are secure and the greenies don’t have to put up with more coal plants, nuke plants, and the snail darters are safe.

Again, someone can correct me if I’m wrong, but the point is NBC’s meaningless act was truly meaningless. It was ALL symbolism and ZERO substance, making it the perfect metaphor for the entire environmental movement.


45 posted on 11/11/2007 7:57:11 PM PST by Entrepreneur
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To: JackRyanCIA
NBC is Gay

Well, it IS true that they migrated from "Must See TV" during the Seinfeld era to "Must Gay TV" during the Will and Grace era...
46 posted on 11/11/2007 8:10:24 PM PST by beezdotcom
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