Posted on 11/11/2007 6:07:31 AM PST by BGHater
PARENTS of sick children in Britain will be allowed to use IVF to create "spare-part babies" under controversial laws published yesterday.
The legislation will dramatically relax rules on IVF clinics creating "saviour siblings" who can help cure their older brothers and sisters of medical conditions such as leukemia.
Experts said that one day they could create a "designer baby" with kidneys perfectly compatible with a sibling suffering renal failure.
More immediately, saviour siblings could give umbilical cord blood or bone marrow to family members in the hope of treating conditions such as sickle cell anaemia.
The Government's Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill will be debated in British Parliament and is expected to become law in 2009.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.com.au ...
I used to say "life is B movie." now I think it's a really bad sci-fi flick. Maybe it's some kind of double feature, or a film festival.
This cannot possibly be true. Creating a life for the soul purpose of killing it by “reassigning” it’s body parts.
Even the heartless, idiocy of the left wing could not sink to this level.
More info:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=492800&in_page_id=1770
Close to a Monty Python movie, specifically "The Meaning of Life."
One scene in particular comes to mind... "We're here for your liver..."
Mark
Here comes that slippery slope!
Mel
God is probably going to get a little PO’d at this stuff pretty soon. IMHO
Madness, if true. Bone marrow is one thing, but body parts takes things to an all new and terrifying level. God cannot be pleased with us.
The people involved in this are gonna burn.
Maybe you’re right. I didn’t see it...but I did read about the Global Warming thing...
May God forgive us all!
ping
Ah, the innocent eighties!
(Anyway, the story ended with a kindly group home caretaker , who had taught some of the clones to read and write despite the rules, allowing one of the clones to escape. He goes out into the world with the intent to track down his 'original' and let him know of the suffering his carelessness (minor amputations to the clone because of his accidents)had caused, and perhaps to get revenge.
Come to think of it, I believe the story was set in a future UK, and it was London where the clone went. )
"The Meaning of Life" may be the least PC, and certainly the sickest movie, that Monty Python did. The scene I to which I referred was where some medical orderlies knock on a man's door, telling him that they were there for his liver. You see, he had signed his organ donor card, but it seems he didn't read it carefully. So, they took his liver.
Mark
Isn’t it interesting testimony that when God creates life, He does so out of love and heartily seeks an eternal relationship with man. When man attempts to counterfeit that power, he does so without love for the person being formed and seeks to use that life as a byproduct for his own physical benefit.
Mark
“It’s medical experiments for the lot of you...”
Isn’t free healthcare wonderful?
OK. Let’s take this to the sick extreme by analogy.
People I know who restore cars can find themselves in a similar quandry.
They are attempting to restore the first car they obtained, when they discover the ‘parts car’ they got is really in much better shape. In fact, it runs fine, the body is better, and the interior is flawless.
Which one gets broken up for ‘parts’?
Children, though, are not cars.
I have no problem with growing specific parts, in fact, I think that should be the goal if ways to restore the ones which exist cannot be found, as the kidney or whatever grown for the specific person would be a perfect match.
But I could never countennance creating a life specifically for the purpose of taking it to extend another life, and that includes extending my own.
The Islamofascists can have the UK.
Did anyone seriously believe that those who want to experiment upon human embryos would not want to start creating embryos in the lab to be used for research instead of reproduction? This is what happens when we start looking at these tiny human beings as “things” which can be manufactured instead of as persons. Stories like this one illustrate the wisdom of the Catholic Church’s opposition to IVF, which is turning out to be a pandora’s box of evils.
you said a mouthful.
This is not a new idea. Remember the fetal tissue transplant controversy of the 1990s?
If it is okay to use embryos that are “left over” from IVF for research, then it is easy to go to the next step of creating embryos via IVF for research or in order to grow them to a certain gestational age and then “harvest” their body parts.
Welcome to the culture of death, also known as the Brave New World.
God, PLEASE HELP US......just when you thought things could NOT get any more insane,,,,another day dawns and we drop to another level.
It’s sick. To destroy a human life for spare parts is sick.
[Sounds like the movie “The Island.”]
Exactly. If this story is true, it’s just more proof that the UK has totally lost it.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0399201/
Some plot synopsis:
“The Island tells the story of a future world where wealthy citizens have the option to have themselves cloned in order to insure they have a guaranteed matching source for organs, blood, or any other replacement body parts that may be needed. While this sounds like a great medical advancement in theory, the reality is the “insurance policies” of these affluent people are actual living, breathing, and feeling human beings who have to be murdered in order for the original person to have their replacement body part.”
I don't think it won any awards, so it wouldn't be in the "Year's Best" anthologies unfortunately (I have all but the first two of Dozois, and all of Hartwell to date).
I have (nearly) complete runs of both magazines from 1978-present. That's waaaay too many to go through to find it...But when I first saw the ads for The Island, I did wonder if the movie was based on that story! It might well be...Officially or UNofficially, since idea theft isn't exactly rare in Hollywood.
I can’t type...That should be 1978-1982. Argh!!
bmflr when I can read about this without losing my lunch.
You get birth control then you get abortion then you get this and more. When you break through the principle of the Sanctity of Human Life then there is no practical limit.
Wow, the UK is one sick toilet.
Surely you jest!
An excellent read on the topic. Fact is getting scarier than Fiction.
Brave New World, anyone?
Do you believe in vampires? Do ya?
Well, if satan has triumphed to this degree in britain I would say let him go full bore and just have the islamists* fully take over
*Although even the islamists have certain legitimate claims to morality that the secularists do not.
I remember an American couple that did this. I cannot remember their name, it was about 10 years or so ago, although I believe the couple concieved the baby naturally. They had a daughter that had a rare form of cancer and needed a transplant but were unable to find a donor. They decided to reverse a tubal and try for another child, hoping he/she would be a match. She got pregnant, the little sister was a match and saved her sister’s life. I also remember seeing an article when the older sister got married and the little girl was her flower girl. They were just beaming at each other. I suspect there will always be an extremely close bond between them.
I can’t blame the parents for wanting another child. I believe that their reasoning also was that if their older daughter didn’t make it, they would have another child who would be loved on her own, regardless of blood type or ability to donate. They obviously love their younger daughter for herself and treasure her. Children aren’t used for spare parts and then discarded, they might be able to donate a kidney (which I would do for my sibling) or a piece of liver that can regenerate itself, or for bone marrow. I remember thinking at the time that if it were me, I would take that opportunity to save my child’s life and if it didn’t work, I would still have a living child to love and raise. I can certainly understand a parent’s desperation to save a child’s life and the understanding that the comfort a living child would bring even if it wasn’t successful.
Scifi has also posited mortgaging an organ to back a loan - pray you don’t default.
Ghost in the Shell looks at this theme from a hitech prostectics point of takeoff. And the follow on GISII, Second Gig looks directly at organ theft as part of the larger plot-line.
If Man can imagine it, it will come to pass.
You’ll notice that the couple profiled in the story traveled to Chicago to have their “savior sibling” embryo created, because at the time the laws in Britain wouldn’t allow it to be done there.
Very few laws governing IVF here in the U.S.
I wrote a short novel on these issues, titled “Evil Interrupted’. Apparently, in GB it is not going to be interrupted, rather it will be served.
It’s being done here too.
You could try reading the article. Nobody's talking about killing anybody. They're talking about taking blood and bone marrow and kidneys, that sort of thing. People donate that stuff everyday. Sibling donors are probably the most common. There's nothing wrong with it.
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