Head Found, Teens Arrested in 'Thrill Kill' Death of Decapitated Sex Offender

www.foxnews.com ^ | Monday, November 12, 2007 | AP

[keats5]

NORTHVILLE TOWNSHIP, Mich. — Two teens have been charged in the brutal decapitation death of a registered sex offender in Michigan whose headless body was left to burn in a subdivision in what prosecutors are calling a "thrill kill."

[Red Badger]

Dexter x2?.............

[Disambiguator]

Classic lawyer line from the article:

“Raymond Cassar, Letkemann’s attorney, urged the public not to rush to judgment.”

[ccmay]

In some states, you can get a "sex offender" label for the rest of your life if you get caught taking a leak behind a dumpster in an alley, or in the bushes on a golf course, even if nobody saw you and it had no sexual connotations whatsoever.

-ccm

[Ditter]

Well la~de~dah la~de~dah Whose side do you take in this one? How about neither? I’ll wait on this one.

[MarkBsnr]

I think that these kids need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for coldly murdering a registered sex offender.

Justice would be well served if they were sentenced to, say, rake the leaves in my backyard.

[MaryFromMichigan]

Evidently, when he was 17 he had sex with a 14 year old.

[the_devils_advocate_666]

There should be degrees of sex offenders. There’s quite a difference between raping an infant and an 18 year-old having consensual sex with a 15 year-old.

[mad puppy]

1 dead, 5 lives essentially over, many families destroyed and another town left to wonder how and why for a many years to come.

Or just another 60 minutes of prime time TV.

[j. earl carter]

From the article:

Sorenson was convicted in Tazewell County, Ill., when he was 17 of having sex with a 14-year-old girl, said Northville Township police Lt. Greg Rhodes. His troubled past had nothing to do with the murder, Worthy said.

Terrible headline. This man was brutally murdered and all the media can say about him is that he was a "sex offender".

[ROP_RIP]

Original thread here

Here is his entry in Illinois: link

The crime is listed as "CRIMINAL SEXUAL ABUSE/VIC 13-17". Doesn't say when it occurred.

[Thinkin' Gal]

"A crime like this surprises us all," Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy said at a press conference. "Any time anyone kills just because they want to — and that's what the evidence seems to suggest here — is bone-chilling. Why anybody would want to do that, especially being 17 years old, it makes us think and ask a lot of questions about our society."

Well if ya have to ask... !? Sheesh, what a maroon.

[monday]

from the article;

“Sorenson was convicted in Tazewell County, Ill., when he was 17 of having sex with a 14-year-old girl, said Northville Township police Lt. Greg Rhodes. His troubled past had nothing to do with the murder, Worthy said.”

You wouldn’t know it by the headline. Apparently FOX news wants us to think the victim was a rapist or pedophile who got what was coming to him.

[mware]

premediated, they even had a tarp laid out to clean up the mess.

They are sick individuals, regardless of what the perp did.

[cspackler]

I think that these kids need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for coldly murdering a registered sex offender. Justice would be well served if they were sentenced to, say, rake the leaves in my backyard.

Good luck with that, I would truly like to see you back up those words once you learn a little more about the case. You are truly a knee-jerk type...

[SeaHawkFan]

He was killed when he was 26. He ad sex with a 14 year-old girl when he was 17. You can figure the math. That was nine years ago. I’d be interested in knowing if it was consensual. Makes a big difference in my mind. If consensual, I would have never voted guilty.

[madprof98]

"They made plans on how they were to clean up the blood," Worthy said. "They made plans on how they were going to dispose of the body. No matter how malicious we all think it may be, it was very thought out and very methodical."

Since we all know that children like this are creatures of impulse who have not fully formed their value systems, a week or two of probation should get this off their records and give them a chance to start fresh.

[azhenfud]

Another episode for “Law and Order”.

[ArrogantBustard]

They are sick evil individuals, regardless of what the perp did.

[Mark was here]

A 17 year old should not be killed for diddling a young lady three short years his junior. This is assuming the lady was out seeking fun and adventure.

Those who would chop his head off for a cheap thrill, should never have a second of freedom for the rest of their miserably little lives.

[r9etb]

Justice would be well served if they were sentenced to, say, rake the leaves in my backyard.

If by "justice" you mean, "MarkBsnr is duly repaid for a truly idiotic comment when the killers decide his death would also be thrilling."

[mware]

I stand corrected you are right, they are evil.

[Kimmers]

You are right....this evil should not be allowed to roam society again

[top 2 toe red]

A 17 year old guy that had sex with a 14 year old girl should be decapitated?

[top 2 toe red]

Terrible headline. This man was brutally murdered and all the media can say about him is that he was a "sex offender".

It is...and there are some here that appear to think he got exactly what he deserved. Sick.

[Lizavetta]

Don't you love the double standards?

When a 14 year old wants an abortion, she's entitled to have control over her body, entitled to privacy, empowered, etc. etc.

When same 14 year old wants to boink an 18 year old, all of a sudden she's molested and/or raped and/or taken advantage of and/or too young and/or blah blah blah.

[top 2 toe red]

Justice would be well served if they were sentenced to, say, rake the leaves in my backyard.

Disgusting, truly.

[trumandogz]

Throw these Thugs in Prison for the rest of their lives. Better yet, stick needles in these Thugs arms and make them die.

[monday]

” He ad sex with a 14 year-old girl when he was 17. You can figure the math. That was nine years ago. I’d be interested in knowing if it was consensual. Makes a big difference in my mind. If consensual, I would have never voted guilty.”

Non consensual sex is usually called rape or forcible rape in the criminal justice system. Since it was called sex, it was in all probability consensual.

[mvpel]

Illinois Sex Offender Registry entry for Sorensen

His crime is listed as "CRIMINAL SEXUAL ABUSE/VIC 13-17".

In Illinois, the elements of that crime are as follosw:

720 ILCS 5/12‑15) (from Ch. 38, par. 12‑15)
Sec. 12‑15. Criminal sexual abuse.
(a) The accused commits criminal sexual abuse if he or she:
(1) commits an act of sexual conduct by the use of force or threat of force; or
(2) commits an act of sexual conduct and the accused knew that the victim was unable to understand the nature of the act or was unable to give knowing consent.
(b) The accused commits criminal sexual abuse if the accused was under 17 years of age and commits an act of sexual penetration or sexual conduct with a victim who was at least 9 years of age but under 17 years of age when the act was committed.
(c) The accused commits criminal sexual abuse if he or she commits an act of sexual penetration or sexual conduct with a victim who was at least 13 years of age but under 17 years of age and the accused was less than 5 years older than the victim.

So since the crime description itself points to paragraph (c), this suggests that he just might have been convicted of having consensual sex with his 17-and-a-half-year-old girlfriend when he was 18.

It'll remain to be seen when the details of his case come out.

[mvpel]

Oops, I guess I missed the details with respect to him having sex with a 14-year-old.

[wideawake]

How exactly did two teens “lure” a man ten years older than they into a garage?

[mvpel]

I suspect it was consensual, since the 13-17 age range does not go to the forcible or non-consenting paragraphs of the Illinois criminal sexual conduct law.

[ArrogantBustard]

In some States, a 17yo boy having intercourse with his 14yo girlfriend would be no crime at all ... in others, “15 will get you 20”.

[TightyRighty]

But Dexter always gets it right - he follows “The Code”.

[whatisthetruth]

The murder charges carry mandatory sentences of life in prison

What a waste of taxpayer dollars!

[monday]

“b) The accused commits criminal sexual abuse if the accused was under 17 years of age and commits an act of sexual penetration or sexual conduct with a victim who was at least 9 years of age but under 17 years of age when the act was committed.
(c) The accused commits criminal sexual abuse if he or she commits an act of sexual penetration or sexual conduct with a victim who was at least 13 years of age but under 17 years of age and the accused was less than 5 years older than the victim.”

So in Illinois two 16 year olds can be convicted of sexual abuse and be labeled sexual predators for the rest of their lives for having sex with each other. Thats pretty messed up.

[MEGoody]

Justice would be well served if they were sentenced to, say, rake the leaves in my backyard.

Murder is not okay, even if the victim is a registered sex offender.

[infidel29]

"MarkBsnr is duly repaid for a truly idiotic comment when the killers decide his death would also be thrilling."

Thank you for putting much more flair in a response to the "raking leaves" comment than I would have.

A case like this calls for the reinstatement of the death penalty for violent offenders under 18.

[MarkBsnr]

Michigan Penal Code, page 4 of 4
750.520e. Fourth degree criminal sexual conduct

Sec. 520e. (1) A person is guilty of criminal sexual conduct in the fourth degree if he or she engages in sexual contact with another person and any of the following circumstances exists:

(a) Force or coercion is used to accomplish the sexual contact. Force or coercion includes but is not limited to any of the circumstances listed in section (1) (f) (I) to (v).

(b) The actor knows or has reason to know that the victim is incapable, mentally incapacitated, or physically helpless.

(c) That other person is under the jurisdiction of the department of corrections, and the actor is an employee or a contractual employee or volunteer with, the department of corrections who has knowledge that the other person is under the jurisdiction of the department of corrections.

(2) Criminal sexual conduct in the fourth degree is a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for not more than 2 years, or by a fine of not more than $500.00 or both.

Maybe some more people need to look at this case as well.

[Humble Servant]

” There should be degrees of sex offenders “

I believe most states do.

[Ditter]

I am thinking that the whole lot of them should be decapitated. No good guys in this story.

[BillyZoom]

Hey, sociopath, the little punks didn’t know he was a registered sex offender.

You’re a real tough guy sitting behind that keyboard aint ya.

[TomasUSMC]

names

[null and void]

Beheading? Are they.....?

[stayathomemom]

There is a lot of information here: http://www.wxyz.com/default.aspx

The kid who apparently did this lives about a half mile from me. My daughters attended the same high school. This is a very troubling story. A lot of people are living through a nightmare because of this.

[Stonewall Jackson]

Several years ago, the seventeen-year-old son of one of my coworkers was caught having sex with his fifteen-year-old girlfriend. He ended up spending several months in juvie and is now a registered sex offender.

[TomasUSMC]

motive?

part of a gang or religious sect?

[null and void]

YIKES!

[null and void]

part of a gang or religious sect?

Awwww come on! No religion specializes in beheadings...