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McCain rarely speaks of son serving in Iraq
The Gazette ^ | 10 November 2007 | James Q. Lynch

Posted on 11/12/2007 4:28:30 PM PST by shrinkermd

When it comes to the war in Iraq, none of the candidates for president has been more hawkish than John McCain. Or more optimistic the United States will succeed.

"If we see the same progress we made in the last seven, eight months, since the start of the surge, the war in Iraq will be largely under control and American casualties will be way down," McCain said this week.

McCain's criticism of previous strategies in Iraq and his assessments of the situation there have been based on "my background and knowledge and experience for the last 50 years" dealing with national security issues.

Now it's personal.

McCain's son, Jimmy, 18, a Marine Corps enlistee, is now serving in Iraq, where more than 6,000 Marines have been injured and about 650 killed.

McCain, however, has said precious little about Jimmy's deployment. He did mention it to Linn County Republicans on Tuesday night, telling them his son has been promoted to lance corporal.

It's unusual for McCain to talk about it, and Chuck Larson, senior adviser to McCain's Iowa campaign, doubts he will make a habit of it.

"It's rare to hear the senator to discuss it," said Larson, who served in Iraq as a member of the Army Reserve. "It's obviously a sensitive issue."

(Excerpt) Read more at iowacaucus.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: iraq; marines; mccain; militaryfamilies; son
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This was news to me. Best wishes to his son and prayes for his return whole and well.
1 posted on 11/12/2007 4:28:31 PM PST by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd

So let’s have a newspaper article about it.


2 posted on 11/12/2007 4:31:23 PM PST by purpleraine
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To: shrinkermd
McCain's son, Jimmy, 18, a Marine Corps enlistee, is now serving in Iraq, where more than 6,000 Marines have been injured and about 650 killed. Not to ,omi,oze the losses, but during the civil war the casualties in a single battler were often higher on each size.
3 posted on 11/12/2007 4:31:54 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: shrinkermd

While I’m not a too big of a fan of McCain, I respect the fact that he’s not using his son for political purposes.


4 posted on 11/12/2007 4:32:28 PM PST by farlander (Try not to wear milk bone underwear - it's a dog eat dog financial world)
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To: shrinkermd

His son is younger than I would have thought.

God Bless the Mc Cain family for sending yet another son off to war.


5 posted on 11/12/2007 4:33:14 PM PST by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: RobbyS

Not sure what you point is on this.


6 posted on 11/12/2007 4:36:03 PM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace

The implication is that these levels are high. Not by historic standards.


7 posted on 11/12/2007 4:40:10 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: shrinkermd

God bless Jimmy McCain. Prayers for his wellbeing and safe return home.

I’m no McCain supporter, but I respect, and appreciate very much, his service to our country. I don’t blame him for not mentioning his son fighting in Iraq too often. The job is dangerous enough without calling special attention to him.


8 posted on 11/12/2007 4:40:54 PM PST by LucyJo
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To: farlander

How about the fact that he raised a son who decided to enlist in the Marines, though he certainly has many, many, other easy options.


9 posted on 11/12/2007 4:42:12 PM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: shrinkermd
God bless McCain's son / Marine.

As much as I swore I would never vote for McCain for his MSM suck-up / needless attacks on our fine current CinC/POUTS....(not to mention voting against the needed tax-cuts in 01/02).

Reality is, McCain would certainly be a better choice (without question) over any of the DEMs....and within the group of current Republican's.....He is in the Top 3.

10 posted on 11/12/2007 4:43:18 PM PST by SevenMinusOne
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To: shrinkermd
McCain's son, Jimmy, 18, a Marine Corps enlistee, is now serving in Iraq,

Well, it's Jim McCain now, not Jimmy. Good luck, Jim, and thank you. We pray for your success and your safe return.

11 posted on 11/12/2007 4:43:46 PM PST by Bahbah
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To: shrinkermd

This was news to me as well. Probably doesn’t say much because it will make him a target for the terrorists to kidnap.


12 posted on 11/12/2007 4:43:46 PM PST by IamConservative (Only two have offered to die for a stranger; Jesus Christ and the American Soldier)
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To: shrinkermd

I AM a supporter of McCain for the Presidency - he is hawkish on the war on terror. Now, another reason to admire him.

And a POX on all those who say the Congress critters do not send their children. If YOU were in congress, would YOU advertise the fact that your child was at the war theater?


13 posted on 11/12/2007 4:47:39 PM PST by SnarlinCubBear ("Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." -- Thomas Mann)
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To: IamConservative

I thought that to. Now AlQ will go all out to find him and we’ll have to pull a saving Pvt. Ryan all over again


14 posted on 11/12/2007 4:52:35 PM PST by shalom aleichem
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To: shalom aleichem
Now AlQ will go all out to find him and we’ll have to pull a saving Pvt. Ryan all over again.

When did we have to pull a saving Pvt. Ryan the first time?

15 posted on 11/12/2007 4:54:49 PM PST by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: shrinkermd
Count me among those who did not know this.

And let me second the motion to commend Mr. McCain for not having made it a campaign issue.

16 posted on 11/12/2007 4:55:27 PM PST by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: SnarlinCubBear

Sen. McCain did not “send” his son. His son enlisted.


17 posted on 11/12/2007 4:57:53 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: shrinkermd

That was news to me as well. I thought Hunter was the only one.

McCain went through some tough times when he got captured in Viet Nam. His son is brave to volunteer even after hearing about that.


18 posted on 11/12/2007 5:00:14 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: shrinkermd

God bless Jimmy McCain. And the rest of our troops for that matter.


19 posted on 11/12/2007 5:07:52 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: farlander
While I’m not a too big of a fan of McCain, I respect the fact that he’s not using his son for political purposes.

Given the current release, I would say that was not using his son in the past tense.

Anyway my nephew made it home today, two or three purple hearts later, sure hope he and his little woman have some prime time tonight.

20 posted on 11/12/2007 5:11:25 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: DevSix

He’s more conservative than Giuliani and Romney combined, but granted he sure can piss me off from time to time. I will support him over the other two.


21 posted on 11/12/2007 5:16:52 PM PST by Reagan79 (Ralph Stanley & The Clinch Mountain Boys)
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To: MediaMole

I understand. Semantics.


22 posted on 11/12/2007 5:17:45 PM PST by SnarlinCubBear ("Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." -- Thomas Mann)
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To: shrinkermd

Good luck to his son. I pray he returns safe and sound. McCain was an officer and his son is an enlisted. Wonder if that is a source of contention?


23 posted on 11/12/2007 5:19:51 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: SnarlinCubBear
God Bless the McCain family.

I Thank them for their years of service to our wonderful Country.

24 posted on 11/12/2007 5:20:02 PM PST by codercpc
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To: shrinkermd
Now it's personal.

Perhaps that's why he doesn't speak of it...Thank you Jimmy for your service. That said, I'm still not voting for your old man.

25 posted on 11/12/2007 5:23:29 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: RobbyS
The implication is that these levels are high. Not by historic standards.

Interesting. It's almost like you are speaking about inflation, unemployment, or some other data driven subject.

I promise you that your post is meaningless to people who have lost someone they care about. I understand what you are trying to say, but it really isn't very helpful, or necessary. BTW, if we lost only 1 person in a war/conflict, it would be worth missing (especially if it was you! or someone you cared about)

26 posted on 11/12/2007 5:28:13 PM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: lilylangtree

Jimmy McCain is the son, the grandson and the great-grandson of Naval officers. He’s the grandson and the great-grandson of Admirals. And I think every one of them would be proud as anything that he enlisted instead of gaining a commission.


27 posted on 11/12/2007 5:36:18 PM PST by wimpycat (Hyperbole is the opiate of the activist wacko.)
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To: shrinkermd

WOW..I had no idea he had a son in Iraq. He’s just gone up several rungs for not using that for political purposes.


28 posted on 11/12/2007 5:41:31 PM PST by Hildy
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace

But are we not taking about war? Fortunately the casualties have been minimal. My son was there for many months and constantly exposed to danger, and engaged in more than one battle. He lost three of his men, and a fiend and classmate was killed—accidentally at Najaf. But after 15 months when he turned in his battered hummer, there was not a single bullet hole in it. To dwell on casualties in this war is to deprecate the men who have fought it. Great danger, but they have inflicted a hundred casualties on the enemy for each one of ours. The fact that they have endured with so little loss is a testimony to their toughness and efficiency, which ought to serve as a warning to our adversaries. Al Qaeda, I am sure, appreciates their worth far more than Hilary Clinton et al.


29 posted on 11/12/2007 6:22:01 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Hildy

he also has a son at Annapolis. Whatever failings he has, he is rock solid here.


30 posted on 11/12/2007 6:23:43 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: RobbyS

I see where you are coming from.


31 posted on 11/12/2007 6:34:17 PM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: lilylangtree

Why would that be a source of contention?


32 posted on 11/12/2007 6:35:13 PM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: shrinkermd

I think McCain is doing best by not talking about his son. The son does not need all the hostile reporters swarming him in Iraq or the hostility in the press back home as MSM tries to use him against his father.


33 posted on 11/12/2007 6:36:19 PM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than to have to fight them OVER HERE!)
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To: DevSix
Six months ago no way, but I could see myself pulling the lever for McCain.

Six months ago rat friends and family were telling me McCain was our natural candidate - I laughed.

Maybe he is our natural out of the bunch we're looking at. I'd like to see Huckabee or Hunter do something, anything, but absent that McCain probably has my vote, albeit grudgingly.

34 posted on 11/12/2007 7:01:03 PM PST by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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To: shrinkermd

I believe that there is no question that McCain is a war hero.

There is no question that McCain is a great American.

There is also no question that he is crazy if he believes that his heroism allows him and his legislation attempting to end Free Speech in this Nation will ever be a platform launching him to the Presidency.

That and his absurd illegal immigration support renders his candidacy irrelevant.


35 posted on 11/12/2007 7:13:08 PM PST by Radix (When I became a man, I put away childish things)
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace

I used to work as a civilian at the Dept of the Navy where there was a definite distinction among the 3 groups—officers, civilians and enlisted in that order.


36 posted on 11/12/2007 7:29:39 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Reagan79

SEMPER FI


37 posted on 11/12/2007 7:52:52 PM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Hildy

He was a grad many months back at MCRD here in San Diego

Both McCain & Hunter’s sons are in the war.
Third tour for Hunter.

McCain has a son also at the Naval Academy


38 posted on 11/12/2007 8:02:14 PM PST by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: lilylangtree

You think they have disdain for enlisted?


39 posted on 11/13/2007 2:02:34 AM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: shrinkermd

Is Jimmy McCain third generation, or fourth?


40 posted on 11/13/2007 2:05:55 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: lilylangtree
McCain was an officer and his son is an enlisted. Wonder if that is a source of contention?

Less so, I suspect, than the fact that John was a Naval Aviator and Jimmy is a Marine. don't know if the USNA makes room for legacies, like many colleges do, but if so Jimmy's in like Flynn -- son of a POW, grandson of an a four-star admiral, and great-grandson of another four-star admiral. Apparently, his big brother, John IV, is already in Annapolis.

41 posted on 11/13/2007 2:17:06 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: ReignOfError

I assume he is Senator McCain’s son.


42 posted on 11/13/2007 5:21:51 AM PST by shrinkermd
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To: trumandogz

And another son is attending the Naval Academy. I am not a fan of McCain, but the fact that he has a personal stake in the outcome in Iraq and still advocates victory and is against a rapid troop pullout says a lot about him.


43 posted on 11/13/2007 5:25:33 AM PST by kabar
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace; RobbyS

I believe RobbyS was pointing out the writer’s insinuation of these numbers being high, and providing historical data to show they are not.


44 posted on 11/13/2007 5:25:47 AM PST by MortMan (Have a pheasant plucking day!)
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To: MortMan

Data are fine, but it is like the difference between a chicken’s and pig’s views of a ham and egg sandwich. The chicken is involved, the pig is committed.


45 posted on 11/13/2007 5:31:07 AM PST by kabar
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To: shrinkermd

Prayers for a safe return. I can’t imagine any parent using their 18 year old for political purposes, especially one serving in war.


46 posted on 11/13/2007 5:34:32 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: farlander

I respect him greatly for not using his kid for political gain unlike that POS Webb from Virginia.


47 posted on 11/13/2007 5:38:35 AM PST by mimaw
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To: kabar

Pardon me for being dense, but how does your comment relate to the bias of the author?


48 posted on 11/13/2007 6:02:32 AM PST by MortMan (Have a pheasant plucking day!)
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To: MortMan

I was pointing the irrelevancy of RobbyS’s comments about the data and how that affects the fact that McCain has a son serving in Iraq. McCain’s son is in a war zone and, as a Marine, exposed to the dangers there. It matters not whether the deaths in Iraq are comparatively less than in some other wars hence my comment about the pig and chicken. In this case, RobbyS is the chicken and McCain the pig.


49 posted on 11/13/2007 6:25:35 AM PST by kabar
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To: TomasUSMC

Semper Fi to a Grand Rapids, Marine. I’m in Grand Rapids also.


50 posted on 11/13/2007 10:00:47 PM PST by Reagan79 (Ralph Stanley & The Clinch Mountain Boys)
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