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Laura Ingraham Show Let's Stephanopolos Skate on Plantgate
Original Report | 11/13/07 | Doctor Raoul

Posted on 11/13/2007 8:37:02 AM PST by Doctor Raoul

Today, Laura Ingraham had George Stephanopolos on for a phone interview.

I called Kristinn to advise him to listen and he reminded me that George Stephanopolos was the ultimate "plant", having appeared to be just another caller that got through to The Larry King Shoe during Bush '41's apppearance literally days before the election.

In fact, Stephanopolos wasn't just another caller waiting in line like everyone else, Stephanopolos was on an inside phone line for guests, having been arranged by a King producer, despite the claims by King during the show that George got through because "anyone can call".

So I call Ingraham's show, ask if Georgie's taking questions and am put on hold. While on hold, I hear Ingraham playfully asking Stephanopolos if Bill's campaign ever planted questions. Georgie issues a flat denial of any such skullduggery.

So I'm figuring, this will be a good exchange with Ingraham, I'm sure she'll rememnber and perhaps have a bit of fun at Stephanopolos' expense. Not only was it a planted question, it was arranged by the media and Stepahopoulos had just denied it.

Not to be because the screener comes back and drops the call.

Unfortunately, this kind of happens often with that show. With the vast amount of knowledge available via the Freeper corporate memory, I just don't understand why these kinds of relevant reminders are virtually never aired.

And the show is extremely painful to listen to when they have Code Pink on. Their representative just eats Ingraham's lunch because the show never works with the most current information. Compared to what they should have done, whatever they manage to chide Code Pink for, it's minor in comparison.

BOTTOM LINE: Laura Ingraham Let Stephanopolos Skate on Plantgate



TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clintonista; collusion; dnctalkingpoints; howtostealanelection; shillary
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1 posted on 11/13/2007 8:37:04 AM PST by Doctor Raoul
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To: Doctor Raoul

Laura Ingraham is an intellectual lightweight. She doesn’t do her homework on the issues. I stopped listening to her a long time ago.


2 posted on 11/13/2007 8:40:17 AM PST by kabar
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To: Doctor Raoul

I heard that interview also. When Step-on-all-of-us said he wasn’t aware of Bill Clinton receiving questions planted, I said to myself, “Yeah sure, right”.


3 posted on 11/13/2007 8:40:48 AM PST by Signalman
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To: Doctor Raoul

These reporters are being threatened with their lives. Now, instead bowing down from fear, blogs and YouFool levels the playing fields.——for now


4 posted on 11/13/2007 8:41:54 AM PST by BlabItGrabIt (Sometimes nothing is a real cool hand...)
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To: Doctor Raoul
just another caller that got through to The Larry King Shoe


5 posted on 11/13/2007 8:43:47 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Unfortunately, Laura was too busy chortling about being on The View, and yep, she gave Stuffinenvelopes a ‘pass’.

She is what she is. Personally, I’d rather have Tony Snow back in her time slot on 55WKRC out of Cincinnati.


6 posted on 11/13/2007 8:44:02 AM PST by Badeye (That Karma thing keeps coming around, eh Sally? (chuckle))
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To: kabar

I stopped listening too. Like Hannity, here “more conservative than thou” ‘tude got to be grating. Indeed, I think those two’s constant GOP bashing helped the Democrats in ‘06 by depressing turnout...


7 posted on 11/13/2007 8:46:11 AM PST by eureka! (Is power so important to the Democrats that they are willing to betray our country? Sadly, yes.)
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To: kabar

I gave up on her when she could not help spending large portions of each show on the most pointless empty chit chat with her producer and staff, ON AIR. I don’t mind a quick personal aside now and then, but when entertainers think every bit of mindless chatter that has nothing to do with real issues is of great significance, I’m finished with them.


8 posted on 11/13/2007 8:51:29 AM PST by Enchante (Democrat terror-fighting motto: "BLEAT - CHEAT - RETREAT - DEFEAT")
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To: Doctor Raoul

You should have heard the interview with that idiot RAT consultant Backle(sp ?) from FOX! The RATS are the ones who have turned this country upside down...NOT both parties!! UGH, she let him skate too!


9 posted on 11/13/2007 8:53:00 AM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: kabar; Bobkk47; Badeye; eureka!
My main problem with these shows is that they're losing the fight because they're not fighting the right battle. They pass on the latest information and anaylsis. Seems to be a strong "Not Invented Here" syndrome, that if they haven't heard of it, it doesn't exist.

If they were, the Iraq war would have been over long ago.

I do understand that I don't have the burden of making a whole show happen day in and day out, but not availing themselves of actionable information that would have an impact is unforgivable.

10 posted on 11/13/2007 8:55:26 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (Columbia = Ayatollah U.)
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To: RoseofTexas
You should have heard the interview with that idiot RAT consultant Backle(sp ?)

Didn't catch it as I had turned off the radio.

11 posted on 11/13/2007 8:56:49 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (Columbia = Ayatollah U.)
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To: Doctor Raoul

I think she enjoys being an elite.

Much of the time, getting along with her fellow elites, even those in the enemy camp, is more important than supporting conservative ideology.

That is true of many of the conservative elite and is why I get ALL my news updates here on FR, amongst my fellow rabble.


12 posted on 11/13/2007 9:00:38 AM PST by EyeGuy
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To: Bobkk47
When Step-on-all-of-us said he wasn’t aware of Bill Clinton receiving questions planted, I said to myself, “Yeah sure, right”.

It's well documented that Bubba will at select the questions to be answered at least 24 hours in advance.

Here in Philadelphia, Larry Kane is the Dean of the local news reporters. Kane was advertised as the MC for a Clinton appearance, a fundraiser for the Temple Kane attends. When I informed Kane of the ground rules that Clinton's agency (Harry Walker) had retroactively imposed on the event, i.e., he selects from pre-submitted questions, Kane told me that if that were the case, he would not participate.

True to his word and journalistic intergrity, Kane did not appear at a significant event at his own house of worship. That's integrity.

Then there E.J Didone of the Washington Compost. When Bubba appeared at the Constitution Center, the same ground rules did not prevent E.J. from being going along with the deception. Nobody knew that Bubba censored some questions and selected others, and that he had time to formulate his answer.

13 posted on 11/13/2007 9:04:49 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (Columbia = Ayatollah U.)
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To: Bobkk47

It is absolute horsesh** from Georgie.

Their town hall forums were heavily screened. The girl who famously asked about “boxers or briefs” was the daughter of a journalist. She sat with her mother at the kitchen table discussing the possible questions for the forum and settled on one about recreational drug use legalization. The question was rejected by the hosts and she was instructed to ask something lighter, ergo the boxers or briefs question.

George lies like all Stalinists.


14 posted on 11/13/2007 9:05:37 AM PST by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: Badeye

She did a good job of taking Tony Snow, Bush White House Press Secretary, to task on Illegal Immigration.


15 posted on 11/13/2007 9:07:34 AM PST by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: Doctor Raoul
There seems to be trend toward dropping in a generic talk show host to fill in for the regular host. Most of them are uninformed gum flappers. It's frustrating when a lefty gets on the air spewing total BS and the guest host is too dumb or too uniformed to handle it. Limbaugh and Hedgecock continue to succeed because they do their homework before sitting in front of the mike. I sometimes have an opportunity to listen to Mark Levin on Sirius or online. My wife laughs when Levin gets wound up on his rants.

Laura needs to improve the signal to noise ratio and preparation. I frequently have to turn her show off when I'm working in the afternoon. It's more distracting than informative.

16 posted on 11/13/2007 9:12:30 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: Doctor Raoul
No surprise. I like her program, but she is a very poor interviewer. If she has a guest she doesn’t agree with, she frequently will ask a question then doesn’t give the guest time to respond before she interrupts and walks over their answer. She will listen only long enough for the guest to say something she can attack. It’s mostly emotion with little intellectual substance.
17 posted on 11/13/2007 9:13:37 AM PST by GBA ( God Bless America!)
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To: Doctor Raoul
Laura's show used to be great when she had her old producer, Lee Habeeb. I don't know if he was fired or what, but it is terrible without him. She's just angry and shrill about everything, even chewing out callers who agree with her.

Who needs screeching first thing in the morning?

18 posted on 11/13/2007 9:15:07 AM PST by inkling (exurbanleague.com)
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To: weegee

‘She did a good job of taking Tony Snow, Bush White House Press Secretary, to task on Illegal Immigration’

Yep. That just underlines the lack of consistency in my opinion.


19 posted on 11/13/2007 9:16:34 AM PST by Badeye (That Karma thing keeps coming around, eh Sally? (chuckle))
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To: EyeGuy
I think she enjoys being an elite.

Exactly. My guess is her audience has shrunk as her ego has grown. I think she's unlistenable now.

20 posted on 11/13/2007 9:26:44 AM PST by JennysCool (Don't taze me, Bro!)
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To: inkling
Who needs screeching first thing in the morning?

Hmmm, no wonder she can't get a guy. :)

21 posted on 11/13/2007 9:30:31 AM PST by LiveFree99
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To: Doctor Raoul
GRAMMER!, you swine!

>:P

22 posted on 11/13/2007 9:31:22 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Islam: Imagine a clown car......with guns.)
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To: All; davidtalker

I also have quit listening to LI. Too many talkies get to the point where they seem to think that the show is as much about them as it is about the issues.

Actually some of the best talk (IMO) is on the weekend with Monica Crowley, Tammy Bruce, David Gold, John Batchelor and Tom Gresham of Gun Talk. Monica can slice and dice as well as anyone and Gold knows the topics and presents them well.


23 posted on 11/13/2007 9:38:10 AM PST by Current Occupant (IF YOU ABANDON CONSERVATIVE PRINCIPLES, ARE YOU STILL A CONSERVATIVE?!)
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To: LiveFree99
Hmmm, no wonder she can't get a guy. :)

I'm easy, ask around...

She's a very nice person. I met her outside Cheney's house and was impressed how down to earth she was.

Again my problem is with the hosts on our side of the spectrum not listening. FR has tens of thousands of people, it's common that someone has a very relevant addition to the debate.

But then again, it's their show. They managed to get there.

24 posted on 11/13/2007 10:06:32 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (Columbia = Ayatollah U.)
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To: RoseofTexas

I heard a little bit of Beckel and that was all I could take. Did she ask him if he’d bounced any checks to prostitutes lately?


25 posted on 11/13/2007 10:10:27 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Laura and Sean are okay but the two that stand out for me are Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin. Mark Levin especially - I like his take no prisoners style of calling a person or situation for what they exactly are./Just Asking - seoul62......


26 posted on 11/13/2007 10:13:11 AM PST by seoul62 (e)
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To: seoul62

I concur that Rush and Levin have more depth in their analysis. Frequently are the originators of an issue, to which the other hosts can only join the chours and say, “Me too.”


27 posted on 11/13/2007 10:16:31 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (Columbia = Ayatollah U.)
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To: Rummyfan
I heard a little bit of Beckel and that was all I could take. Did she ask him if he’d bounced any checks to prostitutes lately?

Sorry, but I turned the radio off.

28 posted on 11/13/2007 10:17:35 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (Columbia = Ayatollah U.)
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To: Current Occupant
She got waaaay too wound up in her fued with BOR over his spring break sequences.

Wish she would get as wound up over substantive issues.

29 posted on 11/13/2007 10:18:33 AM PST by skeeter
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To: skeeter

Missed all that, I just don’t listen to her anymore.


30 posted on 11/13/2007 10:22:44 AM PST by Current Occupant (IF YOU ABANDON CONSERVATIVE PRINCIPLES, ARE YOU STILL A CONSERVATIVE?!)
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To: Doctor Raoul
Unfortunately, this kind of happens often with that show. With the vast amount of knowledge available via the Freeper corporate memory, I just don't understand why these kinds of relevant reminders are virtually never aired.

Two weeks ago, DFU talked with Laura after she did two segments on his film about Peter Paul's fundraiser, the report on the film by ABC News' Brian Ross, and the eventual suit that will put Clintonoid all-stars on the witness stand.

Download it here, and enjoy your crow.

31 posted on 11/13/2007 10:28:06 AM PST by L.N. Smithee (From Slick Willie to Slick Hill'y in Eight Years?!)
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To: Doctor Raoul; doug from upland

Sorry, Doug — should have pinged you on #31.


32 posted on 11/13/2007 10:30:57 AM PST by L.N. Smithee (From Slick Willie to Slick Hill'y in Eight Years?!)
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To: L.N. Smithee

Her producer chimed in today, “Yeah, she doesn’t know who Peter Paul is.” That was good to hear. She has my contact number from my call last week, and I’m hoping she’ll get me on as a guest. Soon.

If any FReepers have contacts in Iowa, now is the time for a group to sponsor a showing of HILLARY! UNCENSORED. That has to be shown there and make news before the Caucuses.


33 posted on 11/13/2007 10:36:39 AM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Steffie also got away with saying something about how she is less partisan now. What?


34 posted on 11/13/2007 10:37:21 AM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: kabar

Hardly. She is standing up for principles of conservatism versus ‘settling’ for someone who is perceived to be the only one to beat Hillary. Even Ann Coulter has said its either Romney or Rudy, take your pick. Laura is standing for principle. I’d hardly call that lightweight, regardless of how she was with Steffi.


35 posted on 11/13/2007 10:39:12 AM PST by rintense (I'm 4 Thompson!)
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To: kabar

I find her to be rude to her guests. She also has picked up the MSM’s lies about the war in Iraq. She often quotes them about how the war was mismanaged and has been a failure.

She also goes on too many rants.


36 posted on 11/13/2007 10:40:37 AM PST by murron
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To: Doctor Raoul
You know what, I do agree with you on Laura about that. She lets the left skate too many times on her show, playing by the Queenbury Rules while the democrats are streetfighting.

I also remember the ultimate liberal plant in Steponallofus when he called into the King show.

These effing people had a place called the "War Room" where they went after Republicans instead of terrorists for 8 years - and America got 911.

37 posted on 11/13/2007 10:41:04 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: weegee
"The girl who famously asked about “boxers or briefs” was the daughter of a journalist."

This is the first I've heard this, but it doesn't surprise me. I wanted to punch her so bad. A regular person may get one chance in their lifetime to actually ask a president a question and she acted like a giggling, retarded groupie.

38 posted on 11/13/2007 10:41:28 AM PST by boop (Who doesn't love poison pot pies?)
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To: Doctor Raoul
Larry King finally admitted George had called into the control room, the Friday before the election, and was put on instead of a legit caller.

I will never forget the look on President Bush's face when he heard Stephanopolous' voice and knew King was allowing him to be sand-bagged. I felt so bad for him.

39 posted on 11/13/2007 10:46:55 AM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: rintense

Laura knows little about the immigration issue, especially the legal immigration policies that are far more dangerous to our long term survival as a nation. She is also ill-informed about the entitlement programs.


40 posted on 11/13/2007 11:31:56 AM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

She has done a very good job browbeating Tony Snow and the like on those very issues. Perhaps you should listen to some of her podcasts.


41 posted on 11/13/2007 12:10:46 PM PST by rintense (I'm 4 Thompson!)
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To: L.N. Smithee
A single serving of crow does not make much of a meal.

Don't be so cheap.

42 posted on 11/13/2007 12:52:39 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Columbia = Ayatollah U.)
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To: rintense
I have. She doesn't know beans about legal immigration policies, e.g., chain migration, visa lottery program, the demographic impact, the importation of poverty, etc. To Laura, all legal immigration is good. It isn't and is far more dangerous and difficult to resolve, especially when you have people like Laura spitting out such bromides rather than using her platform to educate people about the issues.

Her discussions with Tony were about illegal immigration and amnesty. Big difference.

43 posted on 11/13/2007 1:00:10 PM PST by kabar
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To: boop
"The girl who famously asked about “boxers or briefs” was the daughter of a journalist."

This is the first I've heard this, but it doesn't surprise me. I wanted to punch her so bad. A regular person may get one chance in their lifetime to actually ask a president a question and she acted like a giggling, retarded groupie.

It was the daughter of Lea Thompson -- the NBC News reporter, not the actress. From Accuracy in Academia, February 1999:


BOXERS OR BRIEFS

Laetitia Thompson is only 21 years old, but she already worries that her obituary might describe her as "the woman who said ‘boxers or briefs?’" The Princeton University senior, interviewed recently by The Washington Times about her controversial question to President Clinton during his MTV appearance in 1994, said that she never expected such a barrage of publicity about it.

"It sort of grew into this monster that won’t die," said Thompson. Saying that her curiosity was piqued during the period before the MTV broadcast, Thompson noted that the president "definitely seemed like a boxers guy. Everyone was betting on boxers," because of his laid-back behavior.

When she finally popped the question to the Prez, "he turned bright red" before answering, saying: "I can’t believe you’re asking me that," recalls Thompson.

Even if Clinton waffled, Thompson says today that she appreciated his candor. "I really just thought he was the coolest guy," she said. Although she’s disappointed by the President’s behavior with Monica, Thompson, the daughter of Dateline NBC reporter Lea Thompson, says she remains one of Clinton’s most avid supporters. After graduating from Princeton with a degree in history, Thompson will pursue a journalism career.


Indeed, she has. From October 2000:

Thompson, who was selected to appear on MTV through a family friend, eventually landed at Princeton University, where she earned a history degree. These days, she is a part-time political reporter at the University of Missouri-run NBC television affiliate and a radio reporter for KMOX in St. Louis. She spent part of last year covering the Missouri Legislature.

44 posted on 11/13/2007 1:38:05 PM PST by L.N. Smithee (From Slick Willie to Slick Hill'y in Eight Years?!)
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To: kabar
Laura knows little about the immigration issue, especially the legal immigration policies that are far more dangerous to our long term survival as a nation. She is also ill-informed about the entitlement programs.

What in the world are you talking about? Not only was Ingraham all over the immigration issue, she was one of the reasons why the shamnesty bills got stopped in their tracks! And what do you mean about "legal immigration policies that are far more dangerous to our long term survival as a nation"? Is it your opinion that de facto amnesty is preferable to LEGAL immigration?

45 posted on 11/13/2007 1:45:08 PM PST by L.N. Smithee (From Slick Willie to Slick Hill'y in Eight Years?!)
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To: L.N. Smithee
What in the world are you talking about? Not only was Ingraham all over the immigration issue, she was one of the reasons why the shamnesty bills got stopped in their tracks!

She was all over the ILLEGAL immigration issue and amnesty. As someone who is involved in a local grassroots immigration group that has been around since the mid-90s and was involved in lobbying the Hill, I like to think there were plenty of people engaged in that issue. Success has many fathers, but defeat is an oprphan.

And what do you mean about "legal immigration policies that are far more dangerous to our long term survival as a nation"? Is it your opinion that de facto amnesty is preferable to LEGAL immigration?

They are actually Two Sides of the Same Coin If the amnesty bill had passed, it would have been game, set, and match for this country as we know it, mainly due to chain migration. However, we are being destroyed piece by piece through legal immigration, which now brings in 1.2 million people a year. The demographic impact is enormous.

I would spend more time to detail the issues for you, but I am headed out the door to attend an immigration meeting. The bottom line is that even if we stopped illegal immigration, this country will be destroyed if we don't change our legal immigration policies very soon.

46 posted on 11/13/2007 3:12:50 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar
She was all over the ILLEGAL immigration issue and amnesty...If the amnesty bill had passed, it would have been game, set, and match for this country as we know it, mainly due to chain migration.

So why aren't you showing gratitude for her work in stopping amnesty instead of dumping on her for being in favor of LEGAL immigration?

Virtually nobody is in favor of halting immigration totally. That's why most Democrats and GOP compromisers like Graham, McCain, Rove and President Bush pretended people like Laura didn't distinguish between legal and illegal immigration! If it were only up to you people against ANY immigration to fight amnesty, you'd be up you-know-what creek!

Stop whining.

47 posted on 11/13/2007 3:27:13 PM PST by L.N. Smithee (From Slick Willie to Slick Hill'y in Eight Years?!)
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To: L.N. Smithee

Oh, my surprise she went into “journalism”. How far do you think an admitted “big Bush supporter” would get in the journalism world?


48 posted on 11/13/2007 8:13:12 PM PST by boop (Who doesn't love poison pot pies?)
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To: L.N. Smithee
So why aren't you showing gratitude for her work in stopping amnesty instead of dumping on her for being in favor of LEGAL immigration?

Gratitude? Maybe she should be thanking me since I have been fighting this battle for years. You miss the point. Laura doesn't fully understand the immigration problem. Illegal immigration is only part of it and not the most important part. We could stop illegal immigration tomorrow and still have the country go down the tubes because of our legal immigration policy.

Virtually nobody is in favor of halting immigration totally. That's why most Democrats and GOP compromisers like Graham, McCain, Rove and President Bush pretended people like Laura didn't distinguish between legal and illegal immigration! If it were only up to you people against ANY immigration to fight amnesty, you'd be up you-know-what creek!

You are not very well informed. I have never said that I am against immigration. My wife is an immigrant and so was my grandmother. I want the legal immigration polices changed so that we have a merit based system that serves the needs of this country. I want the number of legal immigrants to be reduced from 1.2 million annually to 300,000 a year per the Jordan Commission recommendations. I want to end extended chain migration and confine it to the nuclear family. I want to end birthright citizenship, i.e., anchor babies. I want to eliminate the visa lottery program that brings in 50,000 people a year.

Stop whining.

LOL. The problem is people like you [and Laura] who are uniformed about immigration and the long term impact it is having on this country. I suggest you become better informed. One question: What should we do with the 12 to 20 million illegals in this country?

If immigration continues at current levels, the nation’s population will increase from 301 million today to 468 million in 2060 — a 167 million (56 percent) increase. Immigrants plus their descendents will account for 105 million (63 percent) of the increase. The total projected growth of 167 million is equal to the combined populations of Great Britain, France, and Spain. The 105 million from immigration by itself is equal to 13 additional New York Cities.

Bush's America: Roach Motel by Ann Coulter Unlike Laura, Ann gets it.

49 posted on 11/13/2007 9:36:05 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar; rintense
You miss the point. Laura doesn't fully understand the immigration problem. Illegal immigration is only part of it and not the most important part. We could stop illegal immigration tomorrow and still have the country go down the tubes because of our legal immigration policy.

So in the face of a de facto amnesty bill with bipartisan Beltway support that legalizes at least a dozen million illegal border-crossers, what's the priority? Stopping that legislation, or putting on a seminar about why legal immigration is just as bad or worse?

You are not very well informed. I have never said that I am against immigration.

There is nothing in what you have written in your previous responses that would give anybody the clear signal that you are in favor of legal immigration. This is what you wrote in post 43 (bold mine):


...She doesn't know beans about legal immigration policies, e.g., chain migration, visa lottery program, the demographic impact, the importation of poverty, etc. To Laura, all legal immigration is good. It isn't and is far more dangerous and difficult to resolve, especially when you have people like Laura spitting out such bromides rather than using her platform to educate people about the issues.

Her discussions with Tony were about illegal immigration and amnesty. Big difference.


You again, from post 46:

If the amnesty bill had passed, it would have been game, set, and match for this country as we know it, mainly due to chain migration. However, we are being destroyed piece by piece through legal immigration, which now brings in 1.2 million people a year. The demographic impact is enormous.
On top of all of that, you misstated the facts you referenced. You wrote in post #46 that legal immigration brings in 1.2 million a year. Here's the Center for Immigration Studies page you linked to (bold mine):

Currently, 1.6 million legal and illegal immigrants settle in the country each year; 350,000 immigrants leave each year, resulting in net immigration of 1.25 million.
OOPS! The 1.2 million aren't ALL legal, like you said -- it's the combination of legals and illegals minus either or both that have left the country -- "net immigration," which is the amount to which the endless charts and graphs on that page are referring. Like you said, "big difference."

So much else of what you write about Laura is twaddle. "She doesn't know beans about legal immigration policies, e.g., chain migration, visa lottery program, the demographic impact, the importation of poverty, etc.," you wrote. Maybe if you hadn't "stopped listening to her a long time ago," you would know such subjects were a regular feature of her highlighting of the immigration issue. And PLEASE don't compare her unfavorably with Ann Coulter, whose rightness on many issues is counterbalanced by her childish need for constant attention, which she gets by making gratuitous asides that are certain to offend. To wit: In the Coulter column you linked, it wasn't enough for her to take on Ted Kennedy for the way he has transformed the demographics in the nation through his immigration legislation spanning five decades; she just HAD to write "If only the U.S. Senate had had an 'Irish Need Not Apply' sign!"

For all your supposed superior intelligence and better grasp of the issues, you don't know how to communicate them. Laura does. That's how she became the most popular female political talkhost in history. That's how she topped the New York Times bestseller list with her latest book. And that's how she helped rally millions to take on President Bush, Ted Kennedy, and Lindsey Graham to shove shamnesty and the DREAM act down the throats of the pols, pundits, and media figures (like the majority of the editorial board of the Wall Street Journal and Fox News' All-Stars) who wanted to shove it down ours.

Again: If what you want is to slow legal immigration to under half a million a year, you're not going to have a prayer of accomplishing that until you slow down efforts to increase illegal immigration. Laura helped do that for you. So I have no idea what you're bitching about.

50 posted on 11/14/2007 5:59:55 AM PST by L.N. Smithee (From Slick Willie to Slick Hill'y in Eight Years?!)
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