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Remove Toy Guns From Shelves Or Face Boycott
NBC10.com. ^ | November 13, 2007 | staff reporter

Posted on 11/13/2007 2:21:10 PM PST by Daffynition

City Wide Youth Leadership Agency's William Mackey spends a lot of time talking about toys, but he isn't playing around.

He and other anti-violence advocates believe children playing with fake guns can potentially turn into a game of life or death, and Mackey's group is dedicated to boycotting stores who carry them.

"This is very, very important," Mackey said. "Philadelphia's streets are a bloodbath."

With the holiday season right around the corner -- and people already shopping for presents -- Mackey and his friends want stores that carry toy guns to hear their message.

He and others promise to not only boycott the stores, but also protest in front of them.

Tim Furlong Reports

"The only thing I can say is we don't need the guns, not sold as toys, as water blasters, as BB guns; we don't need any of this stuff," parent Kevin Murphy said.

Mother Maureen Norris, of North Philadelphia, said she thinks the boycott is a great idea because she doesn't buy them and she doesn't want stores to sell them.

"I never bought water guns, play guns, cap guns or nothing," Norris said.

Norris spoke to NBC 10's Tim Furlong as she and her young son headed into a city Toys 'R' Us store -- a good move for parents who want to avoid toy guns that look like the real thing. Toys 'R' Us, along with stores like Target and Wal-Mart, sell Nerf and laser-tag-type guns, but none that look like replica machine guns or Glocks.

Still, despite a September resolution from City Council asking stores to remove the guns from their shelves, some stores like KB Toys in the Franklin Mills Mall sell guns in all colors, shapes and sizes, including a realistic-looking machine gun and handgun purchased by Furlong.

William acknowledged that real guns are the real problem, but said even with the orange tip on fake guns, they are still sending the wrong message to kids in a troubled city.

These young people are brainwashed at such a young age with toy guns," Mackey said. "We must remove them.

"We will start this week boycotting stores in the city and the surrounding counties -- they must remove those toy guns off the shelves immediately," he shouted to supporters.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: banglist; cwii; filthadelphia; philadelphia; philly; philthadelphia; philthy; toyguns
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More stupid ... it seems to be spreading.
1 posted on 11/13/2007 2:21:11 PM PST by Daffynition
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To: Daffynition

That reminds me: Donate toy guns to Toys for Tots this year.


2 posted on 11/13/2007 2:22:24 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: Daffynition

I wish I owned a store just so I could tell this punk to kiss my pimply white ass. Then I’d put up a big display of toy guns.


3 posted on 11/13/2007 2:23:13 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Daffynition
"This is very, very important," Mackey said. "Philadelphia's streets are a bloodbath."

Yes indeedy, toy guns are the cause of this problem, yep. /SARCASM OFF

4 posted on 11/13/2007 2:23:47 PM PST by rockabyebaby (HEY JORGE, SHUT UP AND BUILD THE BLEEPING FENCE, ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.)
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To: rockabyebaby
"I never bought water guns, play guns, cap guns or nothing," Norris said.

I guess he was too busy buying Barbie dolls.

5 posted on 11/13/2007 2:25:04 PM PST by rockabyebaby (HEY JORGE, SHUT UP AND BUILD THE BLEEPING FENCE, ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.)
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To: Daffynition

Philadelphia must be a strange city . . . there are girls there with names like William and Tim.


6 posted on 11/13/2007 2:26:32 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (Not a newbie, I just wanted a new screen name.)
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To: All

Toy guns don’t kill people....toy people kill people


7 posted on 11/13/2007 2:28:14 PM PST by Alright_on_the_LeftCoast
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To: Daffynition

Do these people actually have the ability to tie their own shoes in the morning? Jeepers...


8 posted on 11/13/2007 2:30:18 PM PST by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: Daffynition
"Mother Maureen Norris, of North Philadelphia, said she thinks the boycott is a great idea because she doesn't buy them and she doesn't want stores to sell them."

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" Since I don't buy Tampons, I don't want stores to sell them."

9 posted on 11/13/2007 2:30:22 PM PST by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Daffynition

That’s OK - I don’t buy my kids toy guns.

I buy them real guns, and I take them to the range and let them shoot them.


10 posted on 11/13/2007 2:30:25 PM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: Daffynition
"I never bought water guns, play guns, cap guns or nothing," Norris said.

Including a dictionary apparently.

11 posted on 11/13/2007 2:30:55 PM PST by ShadowDancer ("To succeed in life, you need three things: a wishbone, a backbone and a funny bone.")
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To: Larry Lucido

I like your idea!


12 posted on 11/13/2007 2:32:29 PM PST by Daffynition (The quieter you become, the more you are able to hear.)
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To: Daffynition

A friend’s son turned his sister’s Barbie into a gun. He bent the legs, held it by the torso and started shooting.

Not selling toy guns is not going to stop kids from playing with them.


13 posted on 11/13/2007 2:33:43 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: rockabyebaby; ozzymandus

I would like to see the council pass a resolution to recommend Eddie Eagle programs are in every Philly school.


14 posted on 11/13/2007 2:34:50 PM PST by Daffynition (The quieter you become, the more you are able to hear.)
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To: Daffynition

Are they going to remove toy knives also?

How ‘bout them safety scissors? Could give the young uns ideas, you know.


15 posted on 11/13/2007 2:35:11 PM PST by exit82 (I believe Juanita--Hillary enabled Juanita's rapist.)
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To: PeteB570

I don’t have kids, but I like your philosophy on that.


16 posted on 11/13/2007 2:41:15 PM PST by lesser_satan (READ MY LIPS: NO NEW RINOS | FRED THOMPSON/ DUNCAN HUNTER '08)
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To: Dr. Sivana; cspackler
Let's ban finger guns too, while we're at it.
17 posted on 11/13/2007 2:41:31 PM PST by Daffynition (The quieter you become, the more you are able to hear.)
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To: Daffynition
I have two sons. If they didn’t have toy guns, they just used the thumb and index finger. Try boycotting that.
18 posted on 11/13/2007 2:43:13 PM PST by DejaJude
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To: cspackler
Nope they wear slip ons of some sort or sandals.
19 posted on 11/13/2007 2:43:48 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Daffynition

“I never bought water guns, play guns, cap guns or nothing,” Norris said.

...And therefore I decree that nobody else should be able to buy them because my fragile emotions should dictate the choices of others.


20 posted on 11/13/2007 2:44:06 PM PST by navyguy (Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue.)
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To: PeteB570
That’s OK - I don’t buy my kids toy guns.

I buy them real guns, and I take them to the range and let them shoot them.

DITTO.

21 posted on 11/13/2007 2:47:04 PM PST by afnamvet
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To: DejaJude

Well... they can suspend you for that, however.

http://www.11alive.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=43767


22 posted on 11/13/2007 2:48:02 PM PST by So Cal Rocket
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To: Daffynition
I saw these people on TV and they actually believe this stuff.

It is truly sad to see people trying to end violence without getting dirty.

23 posted on 11/13/2007 2:48:17 PM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: Daffynition

Take away the toy guns and they’ll use their fingers or chicken nuggets or something else. I’ve even seen a Barbie used as a gun.


24 posted on 11/13/2007 2:48:44 PM PST by Hoffer Rand
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To: metmom

When I was growing up we were pretty poor...well in comparison at least. Us kids didn’t get toy guns but we did get lots of scrap lumber which was supposed to be fire wood. With a few nails we made plenty of toy guns...and some gnarly morning stars too (yea we got in trouble for the morning stars)


25 posted on 11/13/2007 2:49:16 PM PST by Domandred (Eagles soar, but unfortunately weasels never get sucked into jet engines)
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To: Daffynition

LOL! What a bunch of maroons.

If you want guns or gun violence, gun killing, gun worship, gun fetish, gun fantasy,, turn on a TV, any channel will do. Or watch a movie. Most any movie will do.

Most of the crap sold at toy stores are movie replicas or wannabe replicas of some weapon made famous in a movie.


26 posted on 11/13/2007 2:50:06 PM PST by JoeSixPack1
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To: Daffynition
This will reducer the crime rate immeasurably.
27 posted on 11/13/2007 2:51:18 PM PST by boomop1 (there you go again)
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To: Daffynition

Actually I am sort of in agreement with these people. Guns aren’t toys nor should kids play with guns like they are. Gun safety training should start at a young age.


28 posted on 11/13/2007 2:51:48 PM PST by burzum (None shall see me, though my battlecry may give me away -Minsc)
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To: Daffynition

The problem isn’t toy guns, or real guns, the problem is barbarians. This nation wasn’t intended, for barbarians, and this nation cannot work, with barbarians as the common denominator.


29 posted on 11/13/2007 2:53:09 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Daffynition
More stupid ... it seems to be spreading.

Stupid and insane are two different things. The fear of an inanimate object so profound that the sufferer cannot stand the sight of a picture or representation of the object is IMHO mental illness.

Hoplophobia, fear it.

30 posted on 11/13/2007 2:53:09 PM PST by magslinger (cranky right-winger)
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To: Daffynition

Boy howdy........I wonder how I ever made it out of the 40’s? We played cowboy and Indians, cops and robbers, built forts and had a ball. We must have shot my buddys little brother a thousand times. He got to get shot a lot cause he was the youngest and he fell real good.

These people need to go get a real job some place so they have other things to worry about. Pretty soon they are going to take the kids bikes away from them because they might, just might, run over someone.


31 posted on 11/13/2007 2:53:20 PM PST by RC2
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To: Alright_on_the_LeftCoast

32 posted on 11/13/2007 2:54:25 PM PST by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: PeteB570

My six year old shot two clay birds from the automatic thrower this past weekend with his .410 shot gun, the number of attempts don’t matter. :) He also got his first squirrel last month. (shameless bragging over)


33 posted on 11/13/2007 2:55:32 PM PST by WV Mountain Mama (Every time engineers build something idiot-proof, man builds a better idiot.)
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To: Daffynition

so it’s the fault of the “toy” that is responsible?????????


34 posted on 11/13/2007 2:56:10 PM PST by cubreporter ( Rush has done more for this country than any other politician ever! He's the man!!!!)
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To: metmom; Daffynition; Larry Lucido; dighton; aculeus; general_re; L,TOWM; Constitution Day; ...
When I was young, my parents couldn't afford to buy us too many toys and look-alike guns were pretty much out of reach. We did, however, have a full supply of baseball/softball bats ...

held fat-end against the front of the shoulder, a rifle;

held underarm, it was a submachine gun;

placed on top of the shoulder, it was a bazooka;

placed on a mound of dirt on the ground, it was a 50-caliber.

The first multi-purpose weapons system.

35 posted on 11/13/2007 2:56:46 PM PST by BlueLancer (Der Elite Møøsënspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmändø (EMØØK))
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To: rockabyebaby

We bought all those toys and our kids played with them just fine. They KNEW they were toys and toys only. By the way, they grew up to be good, honest, law abiding citizens and good fathers.


36 posted on 11/13/2007 2:57:54 PM PST by cubreporter ( Rush has done more for this country than any other politician ever! He's the man!!!!)
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To: burzum

“Guns aren’t toys nor should kids play with guns like they are.”

Is it OK for Kids to play with Toy Guns as if they were Toys?


37 posted on 11/13/2007 2:58:49 PM PST by wmileo (Reagan Democrat for life)
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To: Hoffer Rand

The English writer Saki (H.H. Munro) made a similar observation nearly a hundred years ago in a short story published about the time this squishy PC crap started to enter the western mindset.

In the story a painfully politically correct set of parents have purchased all non-violent toys for their boys.

While their elders are having tea and bloviating about it all the boys are in the next room improvising blood out of red ink and restaging the latest Balkan or Armenian atrocities comitted by the Ottomans.


38 posted on 11/13/2007 3:00:28 PM PST by skepsel
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To: metmom

I had a friend who was adamant about not buying her son toy guns......he turned the bread in his sandwiches into toy guns, aimed at his sister, of course!


39 posted on 11/13/2007 3:00:51 PM PST by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character! Being Coddled Destroys Character!)
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To: wmileo
Is it OK for Kids to play with Toy Guns as if they were Toys?

Not at a very young age. Learning responsibility is more important that entertainment. Doing otherwise automatically makes it sound like the first step in safely handling a gun is a joke.

40 posted on 11/13/2007 3:02:08 PM PST by burzum (None shall see me, though my battlecry may give me away -Minsc)
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To: Daffynition
Outlaw forks and knives too..!!

molon labe

41 posted on 11/13/2007 3:02:39 PM PST by Osage Orange (If you draw a gun, be prepared to fire it. And if you shoot someone, shoot to kill.)
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To: Larry Lucido

That reminds me.. it is getting harder and harder to find good toy guns these days. Anybody know of a source for quality toy guns? My husband bought some good looking ones at a gun show last year, but they turned out to be cheap Chinese crap and broke right away.


42 posted on 11/13/2007 3:04:29 PM PST by Pining_4_TX
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

Yep, these people have the logic of a 6 year old.


43 posted on 11/13/2007 3:04:34 PM PST by DejaJude
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To: cubreporter

“We bought all those toys and our kids played with them just fine. They KNEW they were toys and toys only. By the way, they grew up to be good, honest, law abiding citizens and good fathers.”

You mean they are not contributing to the gun violence in Philadelphia? AMAZING!!! And I bet not one of your sons would dare call his wife a Bitch or a Ho either.


44 posted on 11/13/2007 3:06:45 PM PST by wmileo (Reagan Democrat for life)
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To: Daffynition
These types of articles are actually very depressing.

It is really hard to believe that even liberals minded people can be this stupid and so devoid of common sense about children and playing and most importantly how to deal with crime, especially in a city like Philly where the crime rate is completely out of control.

One can have legitimate concerns about how guns are controlled and how toy guns affect society as whole, but to be this stupid simply shows we are ripe for a Coup d'état as a nation

45 posted on 11/13/2007 3:08:14 PM PST by Popman
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To: Daffynition

Violent crime is way down. If its up in Philly, that is not because of toy guns.


46 posted on 11/13/2007 3:08:26 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: Daffynition

William H. Mackey

Age: 45

Family: Single parent of one son, who will be 3 in September

Profession: Executive director of the Citywide Youth Leadership Agency

Who was your greatest influence on your role as a father?

“I always looked up to John Street, before he was the mayor, when he was the rabble-rouser about 30 years ago. He was the kind of person who used to do a lot of things with his kids and all, and I think that kind of parenting, it showed leadership.”

What lessons did you learn from your past?

A recovering drug addict, Mackey has a long criminal record that includes thefts and DUIs. “We have a lot of folks right now who are in leadership positions who are recovering drug addicts. People are coming home from prison, but they can’t vote for three years....They can’t get certain jobs because of their background. I think what I’ve been through, my trials and tribulations — I think that’s why I was nominated. People who knew what I’ve been through in life can respect me when they see me with my son.”


47 posted on 11/13/2007 3:10:38 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Daffynition
"... it seems to be spreading."

I would say that at least locally the opposite is occurring. Ten Years ago toy guns were nonexistant even (especially?) in the big box stores. This year Ive already found a number of stores with extensive arsenals to choose things from and the shelves are clearing fast...

48 posted on 11/13/2007 3:12:08 PM PST by gnarledmaw (It serves always to distract the public councils and enfeeble the public administration.)
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To: skepsel; Hoffer Rand; BlueLancer; Billthedrill; Larry Lucido; AnAmericanMother; All
Take away the toy guns and they’ll use their fingers or chicken nuggets or something else. / The English writer Saki (H.H. Munro) made a similar observation nearly a hundred years ago ...

The Toys of Peace

49 posted on 11/13/2007 3:27:36 PM PST by dighton
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To: Daffynition
"With the holiday"
season right around the corner

Take Christ out of Christmas and blame the toys...

50 posted on 11/13/2007 3:28:19 PM PST by just me
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