Posted on 11/13/2007 7:31:30 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin
Did they need a check? I can write one for $10K right now so my family is paying it's fair share. *ROLLEYES*
This war hasn't cost me one d@mn dime. How about you?
What would be the cost if terrorist took out New York, LA or Chicago? What would be the cost if they disrupted 30% of the world oil supply. Dems put that in your bong and smoke it!
Well, the Dems do have a point, however I’d suggest applying the same cost analysis to their proposed spending programs and see how theirs’ fairs.
Even if true, it’s still a bargain at twice the price. What price can be put on a nation’s security and well being? How much will it cost us when we let down our guard and are attacked again? What was the cost to the nation from 911, both to the private economy and in terms of government expenditures?
“attempted to put a price tag on the two conflicts, including ‘hidden’ costs such as interest payments on the money borrowed to pay for the wars, lost investment, the expense of long-term health care for injured veterans and the cost of oil market disruptions.”
Why not include the slew of Hollywood anti-war box office bombs and their own silly anti-Bush ad campaigns?
Precisely..:)
“Why not include the slew of Hollywood anti-war box office bombs and their own silly anti-Bush ad campaigns?”
LOL but you know its true they did factor that stuff in...
You wanna irritate a liberal just tell them the bargain we will get for all the Iraqi oil they will give us to pay the bill...... Oil we would have never gotten from Saddam....
Exactly, they whine about the costs of the war, then propose more spending....WTHeck?
These guys are all over the map, if the money is the problem reduce spending, if the outcome is a problem try defeat and see what it costs to buy oil from Islamofascists.
One of Obl’s complaints was that “We are selling the oil to cheaply”....
And these are the same folks who proposed an increase in the Federal Gas tax, and then they complain about the price of oil?
Grrr....
You really think the war hasn’t cost you a dime? That’s delusional.
War does cost money. And while I have no idea in the world whether this estimate of the cost is right, you can be absolutely sure it’s going to cost a WHOLE lot more than any politician is willing to tell you — although they also most certainly have no idea in the world how much it WILL cost.
Headline? “1,600 bills laden with pork averaging one billion dollars each, five-year total. ‘About typical,’ says Capital Hill.”
Not a thing, just ask your pal Sean Penn.
The cost of LBJ’s Great Society (read “welfare) is about 11 trillion $ since 1964 and still on the increase. Are the Dimocratz trying to scuttle that? If so, why not. At least there is a payout for the $ invested in Iraq.
“What did Iraq have to do with 911?”
You seem to have been infected with the wrongheaded notion that the war on terror was simply a war of revenge for 911, as if venegence is a national security imperative. The war on terror is about ending the culture of chaos and death in the Middle East that feeds terrorism, and Saddam’s regime was part of the nerve center of that culture of tyranny in which terrorism thrives. That of course includes Saddam’s support for terrorism which was considerable.
Even if you erroneously believe Al Qaeda had no relationship or presence in Iraq prior to our invasion, I will show below that in fact it did, Al Qaeda is there now. We have drawn them out of their rat holes and into an open fight in Iraq where we’ve badly mauled them and our defeating them. And we did so on terrain far less familiar to Al Qaeda than was Afghanistan, and far less forbidding than Afghanistan’s mountains and winters that defeated the Brits and the USSR. Thus our entry into Iraq had a major unforseen payoff for the US.
That will have HUGE ramifications for Al Qaeda’s future if they lose the war in Iraq, which they are. And Iraqi having suffered under Al Qaeda is becoming a bulwark against extremism and Al Qaeda’s cancer in the heart of the Middle East. How is ANY of this a bad thing even if it was an unintended consequence of our liberation of Iraq? These have MAJOR benefits to the US in the overall war on terror.
But beyond that, Saddam did have a relationship with Al Qaeda as his own intelligence files are showing. I will ping Freeper JVeritas on this who has done yeoman’s work in helping to translate Saddam’s documents that show he worked with Al Qaeda, even if not directly on 911. He can provide you with dozens of things he’s written on Saddam’s intelligence files having examined them directly and translating them from Arabic.
Also, take a look at another Freeper’s postings who has collected a wide array of sourcing showing Saddam and Al Qaeda worked together, RaceBannon. Go to this link and scroll past the main article to read the very extensive listing of articles demonstrating Saddam’s connections to Al Qaeda: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1335971/posts
I’d also refer you to the book “The Connection: How Saddam’s Relationship with Al Qaeda Endangered America” by Stephen Hayes, published by Harper Collins, not exactly some right wing publisher. Even if you dismiss half the evidence Hayes presents, it’s a compelling picture of an evolving relationship between Saddam’s regime and Al Qaeda, based on the “Enemy of my enemy is my friend” ethic of the Middle East.
Sandy, this whole thing is not just a revenge retaliation for 9/11. We're in a big, long term war against Islamo-Facism. The religion/cult/political-system that is Islam is a threat to the entire western world, just like it has been for the last 1400 years.
We went into Iraq because we believed that, if we did not, it would be a credible threat to the US and to the world oil supply. Saddam, and now Iran, would be holding a knife to the worlds throat right now if we didn't go in there and stop them by force. You can't just be asking "what did they do?", you have to be asking "what would they PROBABLY do if we did nothing?". It's not a choice of whether we want to deal with this problem or not, it's a question of whether we want to go in and deal with it now, or wait until it becomes either impossible or five time more costly. This whole war is about doing what has to be done, whether we particularly like it or not, because doing nothing would be worse.
What is it worth to have Libya renounce and relinquish its nuclear program? What is it worth to depose and execute one of the world’s worst tyrants bent on building all types of WMDs? What is it worth to help begin nudging the Islamic world toward the 21st century?
WOW!
That’s almost as much as Hillary has offered to pander away in her first weeks in office!!!
“Hi. Im curious. What did Iraq have to do with 911?”
OK... I know you have only been on FR for 4 days, but...
Let this sink in:
Iraq may, or may not have had anything to do with 9/11, but 9/11 has EVERYTHING to do with why we had to invade Iraq...
Doing the job the U.N. refused to do, mostly because it’s leadership,(And that of FRANCE), were depending on Saddam’s bribe money to pay for thier high lifestyles...
ZOT!!!
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