Posted on 11/14/2007 12:45:02 PM PST by elhombrelibre
When some in a crowd of anti-war activists meeting at Democrat National Committee HQ in June, 2005 suggested Israel was behind the 9-11 attacks, DNC Chair Howard Dean was quick to get behind the microphones and denounce them saying: "such statements are nothing but vile, anti-Semitic rhetoric."
When KKK leader David Duke switched parties to run for Louisiana governor as a Republican in 1991, then-President George H W Bush responded sharply, saying, "When someone asserts the Holocaust never took place, then I don't believe that person ever deserves one iota of public trust. When someone has so recently endorsed Nazism, it is inconceivable that someone can reasonably aspire to a leadership role in a free society."
Ron Paul is different.
Rep Ron Paul (R-TX) is the only Republican candidate to demand immediate withdrawal from Iraq and blame US policy for creating Islamic terrorism. He has risen from obscurity and is beginning to raise millions of dollars in campaign contributions. Paul has no traction in the polls -- 7% of the vote in New Hampshire -- but he at one point had more cash on hand than John McCain. And now he is planning a $1.1 million New Hampshire media blitz just in time for the primary.
Ron Paul set an internet campaigning record raising more than $4 million in small on-line donations in one day, on November 5, 2007. But there are many questions about Paul's apparent unwillingness to reject extremist groups' public participation in his campaign and financial support of his November 5 "patriot money-bomb plot."
On October 26 nationally syndicated radio talk show host Michael Medved posted an "Open Letter to Rep. Ron Paul" on TownHall.com. It reads:
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
I am not a huge fan of Ron Paul. His foreign policy is irrational, imo. That said, guilt by association is what is being perpetrated here. Black propaganda is another name for it.
Read the article and see if you still think that.
Ping.
I don’t buy your excuse. Paul could take Medved’s advice and disavow the neo-nazi’s, problem solved.
Paul invites this type of support.
Not at all.
While I see your point, its not that much different than the tactics Ron Paul is using, blaming America for the actions of others. Blaming his own party’s leadership for the attacks.
And then making public he didn’t vote for his party’s nominee in 2000, nor in 2004.
Given his assine positions, I figure whatever is done to him is in fact self inflicted.
If he had the cajone’s he pretends he has, he’d be running as a Libertarian, or as a Democrat.
Terrorists and Nazis support him especially in the Middle East.
Not really. His policies (at least domestically) are pretty reasonable. At least to me. Foreign policy-wise, he’s out of line.
I’ve read his policy statements, which have more weight than this article.
I don’t much care what one talking head says - i.e. Medved. Paul doesn’t have to respond to him. The fact is that Paul would never achieve his legislative objectives because too many parts of both major political parties like big government.
Where there is smoke . . . . . .
And when he thinks no one is looking, Ron Paul takes checks from Nazis.
And that's all one really needs to know about him.
Breaking News eh?
In other Breaking News, McCain tacitly admits Hilly is a Bitch.
Breaking, Breaking, Breaking. Get your broken news here!
This isn’t an article, it’s a non-grammatical info-dump. And it’s not breaking news, either, I’ve seen most of this stuff before. So much feigned outrage over an imagined problem, rehashed today just because Paul is suddenly gaining a little bit of ground in the polls.
If you actually think Ron Paul is a racist or an anti-semite, just say so.
The fact is that Paul could return the donation from Black and make an official statement saying he doesn’t want the endorsement of this crowd, but he hasn’t. And that speaks volumes. He can’t stop scumbags from supporting him, it’s true; to blame him for that WOULD be a fallacy of guilt by association. But he CAN say unequivocally that he doesn’t WANT their support.
So Julie Annie, Mitt and Fred all have to vet each and every donor? I think not. Her Thighness sure does not. As long a the Nazi’s meet the legal requirements it’s no big deal. That’s the American way - innocent until proven guilty, amigo.
Listen, I’m not a Ron Paul supporter. His brand of indiscriminate libertarianism is too far removed from reality but we don’t have to paint him as a nazi. He’s not a nazi. If the nsdap wants to endorse him then that is on them and if they want to give him money he should keep it. A fool and his money...
Ron Paul is ‘08’s magnet for the disaffected of every political stripe. These figures have been appearing with great regularity for some time now. He’s not changing his views to seduce the Aryan Nation vote. He’s not changing his views to lock down the Truther vote either. These groups see in his campaign what they want to see.
This is just so much silliness.
All anyone needs to do is spend an hour or so on one the FR’s MoRon Paul threads and they will reach the same conclusion.
If it were brought to their attention, even these politicians would have the moral fiber to reject any Nazi donations to their campaign.
It is amazing to contemplate that Ron Paul has less of a conscience than Rudy Giuliani - but those are the sad facts.
That’s the American way - innocent until proven guilty, amigo.
This is not a legal matter - it is a moral matter. And the fact is that Paul took Nazi money. It's cut and dried.
Where there is smoke, there is smoke. That’s all. Ya’ ever consider that this stuff is easily done by black ops types to poison the opposition? I’m not much for conspiracy or paranoia, but Ron Paul (like other candidates) has enemies. Rightly or wrongly some people really don’t like the guy and it appears that they would love to smear him. Again, I much prefer Fred to Ron. That said, RPs domestic agenda is something we Republicans could learn from.
in your opinion. not in mine.
Of course not - he already shares their views. As he himself printed in his newsletter, 95% of black men are criminals.
I don't know any member of the Aryan nations that would quibble with this view.
Yeah, RPs strongly pro-RKBA position is pro-Fascist. Yeah, right. /sarcasm
You're so scrupulous!
In other words, you believe that right and wrong are matters of opinion: that morality is a matter of mere convention and that there are no moral absolutes.
I suppose that's Paul's stance as well, given his behavior.
What portions of it are false? Please be specific.
stop putting words in my mouth. all I said was I dont’ share your opinion.
It is amazing that neo-nazis can raise four million dollars in one day.
“Read the article and see if you still think that.”
I just did and while I don’t believe that Paul shares their views, they certainly believe he does. The fact that Paul does not denounce these people and return the money is troublesome.
This is politics. If you don’t like to see what’s in the sausage, don’t go in the kitchen when it’s being made.
The question of whether or not it is moral to take money from Nazis is not a matter of opinion.
Taking money from Nazis is wrong - pure and simple.
To assert that it is simply a matter of opinion is to abandon moral absolutes in favor of complete moral subjectivism.
Who’d a thunk that there were so many wealthy Nazis in the US?
“So Julie Annie, Mitt and Fred all have to vet each and every donor?”
Do you believe that if it were brought to their attention that they had NAZI scum donating to and possibly infiltrating their campaigns that they’d do NOTHING about it?
It’s reprehensible. Anyone taking that money knows little about the eastern front in WWII...doesn’t know, or doesn’t care.
Link? Also I looked on stormfront homepage and did not see an endorsement. Link for that please?
It would take L.Ron five minutes to repudiate this.
But he won’t do it, because he wants the money and/or he doesn’t mind the source.
American citizens who have rights whether or not you or I like their politics. I’m not naive enough to believe that there are plenty of donations from many sources which should be rejected. Nor am I going to hold accepting legal donations against a politician. I do wish that politicians who accepted illegal contributions were jailed - i.e. Her Thighness and Slick.
Disaffected?! Disaffected?!
You’re joking, right?
Anyone can claim to be disaffected to justify their nonsense. Al Qaeda thinks they too are disaffected. Should Ron Paul take money from them?
are s/b aren’t
Eric Dondero, Pauls’ personal aide for 12 years, claims that Paul is an FDR conspiracy theorist on Pearl Harbor. And to this day, he is/was against US action in the European theater of WW2.
That kind of thing makes me think this is black propaganda by anti-paulian forces.
American citizens who have rights whether or not you or I like their politics.
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