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'Get tough' call on public health
bbc.co.uk ^ | Tuesday, 13 November 2007 | staff

Posted on 11/14/2007 3:38:48 PM PST by Leisler

The government has a duty to look after the health of everyone and sometimes that means guiding or restricting our choices Lord John Krebs, of the Nuffield Council on Bioethics

Government ministers should shrug off media accusations that they are running a nanny state and introduce tougher public health measures, experts say.

The Nuffield Council on Bioethics said the time had come to consider a whole host of interventions in the UK after the introduction of a smoking ban.

Its proposes raising alcohol prices, restricting pub opening hours and better food labelling to fight obesity.

The government said it was taking steps to protect public health.

The report by the panel of experts, which include scientists, lawyers and philosophers, said there was a balance to be struck between individual freedom and wider public protection.

But they urged the government not to be afraid to act where there was evidence people were being put at risk by environmental factors.

It praised the action taken over the smoking bans, introduced across the UK countries in recent years, as an example of where the "greater good" outweighs an individual's right to make a personal choice.

The experts said the government and industry should not see such measures as tantamount to creating a nanny state.

Instead, public health interventions should be seen as a "stewardship" role where proportional intervention was only taken when other measures had failed.

The report called on ministers to reconsider the relaxation in pub opening hours and look into increasing the price of alcohol through taxation.

It also said industry should introduce the most effective food labelling methods once the Food Standards Agency review of the issue is completed.

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And it called for town planners and architects to be trained to design buildings and public spaces that encourage physical activity.

There is also an argument for intervening where children with serious respiratory conditions are exposed to smoking at home, it added. But the report did stress that those measures should be determined by the courts.

Lord John Krebs, the chairman of the committee which produced the report, said: "People often reject the idea of a nanny state.

"But the government has a duty to look after the health of everyone and sometimes that means guiding or restricting our choices."

Lord Krebs said there had been a "huge cultural change over what is acceptable" with the introduction of the smoking bans and urged the government to "implement tougher measures".

Dr Tim Crayford, of the Association of Directors of Public Health, agreed the climate was changing.

He said: "We need the government to provide more leadership."

Professor Ian Gilmore, president of the Royal College of Physicians, added: "Their call to examine the impact of 24-hour licensing is particularly welcome as this is most likely to impact on the health of the nation in the long-term."

The government said it was taking steps to protect public health and defended its record on alcohol in particular.

Health Minister Dawn Primarolo said: "The government has introduced a comprehensive strategy to tackle the health and social affects of harmful drinking across the board."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: 1984; agenda21; bravenewworld; bravosierra; cool; healthcare; healthnazis; healthypeople2010; hillary; nanny; socializedmedicine
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To: Leisler

“Your body belongs to the state. Your body belongs to the Fuhrer. Food is not a private matter.”

-—Actual Nazi Socialist Party slogan


21 posted on 11/14/2007 7:54:51 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Leisler
Hooray -- about damned time!

Oh, wait. You mean this isn't a story about quarantining tubercular Mexican invaders in the U.S.? Rats.

22 posted on 11/14/2007 8:25:40 PM PST by Tenniel2 ("After a glimpse of Democrats in power, Republicans don't look so bad" -- Jack Kelly)
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To: Leisler
Hooray -- about damned time!

Oh, wait. You mean this isn't a story about quarantining tubercular Mexican invaders in the U.S.? Rats.

23 posted on 11/14/2007 8:31:49 PM PST by Tenniel2 ("After a glimpse of Democrats in power, Republicans don't look so bad" -- Jack Kelly)
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To: Gabz

Thanks for the ping!


24 posted on 11/14/2007 10:04:15 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: darkangel82; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; ...
"The government has a duty to look after the health of everyone and sometimes that means guiding or restricting our choices"



Libertarian ping! To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here.
25 posted on 11/14/2007 10:18:04 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: Leisler

And to think they once had an empire. *sigh*


26 posted on 11/14/2007 10:30:03 PM PST by lesser_satan (READ MY LIPS: NO NEW RINOS | FRED THOMPSON/ DUNCAN HUNTER '08)
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To: Tenniel2
Borders, literally, define a nation. No borders, no nation. So, as far as FedGov is concerned, illegals aren’t invaders because the Feds have given up on the idea of a border.

And no, it is easier for the Republicrats to go after sheeple Americans than illegals who have shown themselves contemptuous of Federal government, which is kind of fair, or equal in a way.

27 posted on 11/15/2007 1:52:19 AM PST by Leisler (RNC, RINO National Committee. Always was, always will be.)
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To: Gabz

Personnally, I recoiled in horror from the article.


28 posted on 11/15/2007 1:53:02 AM PST by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: The Ghost of Rudy McRomney; 383rr
Instead, public health interventions should be seen as a "stewardship" role where proportional intervention was only taken when other measures had failed.

I just hope my "steward" has a great sense of humor... and huge nay-nays!

29 posted on 11/15/2007 3:30:48 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

“Your body belongs to the state. Your body belongs to the Fuhrer. Food is not a private matter.”

-—Actual Nazi Socialist Party slogan
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I had to look that one up...
WOW
http://www.pierrelemieux.org/artproctor.html

“”After reading The Nazi War on Cancer, the careful reader will be well positioned to understand why fascism requires strong public health policies. For the fascist State needs “valuable human material” — or, as we would say today, healthy “human resources”. Nazi slogans reported by Proctor are more explicit than what present-day crusaders would dare to employ: “Your body belongs to the nation!” “You have the duty to be healthy!” “Food is not a private matter!” “”

The above was written in 1999, now ‘present-day’ crusaders are using the phrase.


30 posted on 11/15/2007 4:29:25 AM PST by libertarian27 (Land of the Fee, Home of the Shamed)
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To: Leisler
Step one-get rid of the FDA, that would improve public health immensely!
31 posted on 11/15/2007 5:26:44 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: Gabz

Meet me in the bunker...


32 posted on 11/15/2007 5:46:09 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: long hard slogger; FormerACLUmember; Harrius Magnus; Lynne; hocndoc; parousia; Hydroshock; ...
"But the government has a duty to look after the health of everyone and sometimes that means guiding or restricting our choices."

Socialized Medicine aka Universal Health Care PING LIST

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33 posted on 11/15/2007 5:46:22 AM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: darkangel82
Thanks for the ping.

"But the government has a duty to look after the health of everyone and sometimes that means guiding or restricting our choices."

To anyone who knows history this statement will strike fear but to anyone who has swallowed universal health care it makes perfect sense.

Check out the liberal linguistics: it's not a nanny state but rather greater good and stewardship...you know "for the children". This crap is right out of the Communist play book.
34 posted on 11/15/2007 5:56:36 AM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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