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Alberta oil too costly: Saudi official
Calgary Herald ^ | 11/14/07

Posted on 11/14/2007 6:23:22 PM PST by Dane

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To: thackney
The rise in oil prices over the last 12 months have been about 4 times greater than the drop in dollar value.

The central banks have injected over $1 trillion since August alone, resulting in 20% inflation (18% increase in M3 and -2% GDP) according to real data.

121 posted on 11/15/2007 8:48:18 AM PST by jrsmc
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To: jrsmc

Has the dollar dropped 20% compared to other currencies?

I doubt 20% inflation; I don’t believe people have seen a 20% increase in their yearly costs, I sure have not.


122 posted on 11/15/2007 8:55:01 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Dane
it doesn't," Al-Naimi said bluntly

Saudi oil is possibly as much as $10 a barrel to lift. Oil sands are $40 a barrel to produce. How's the profit margin?

123 posted on 11/15/2007 8:58:35 AM PST by RightWhale (anti-razors are pro-life)
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To: jrsmc

The $1 trillion doesn’t include the money they removed either within a month. A lot of it is just recycled (Fed lends money for assets, swaps back after contract expires, and then do it again). M3 is not the end all be all of inflation.


124 posted on 11/15/2007 8:58:43 AM PST by rb22982
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To: RightWhale
Oil sands are $40 a barrel to produce.

That is not what Suncor and others are paying to produce Alberta oil sands. They would not have 4 decades of production if it had costs $40 a barrel to produce.

125 posted on 11/15/2007 9:00:30 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

Everything has gone up including labor. Some say it is $30 for North Slope oil now, or $40 and it wasn’t long ago Prudhoe oil was $20. Somebody just gave up their North Slope leases because they said they couldn’t afford to do the development. Trouble ahead, Casey, how’s your speed?


126 posted on 11/15/2007 9:05:47 AM PST by RightWhale (anti-razors are pro-life)
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To: muawiyah

Oil Shale in Indiana?


127 posted on 11/15/2007 9:21:26 AM PST by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW , Vote Hunter in the Primary)
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To: CPT Clay

Fact Sheet: U.S. Oil Shale Resources
http://www.fossil.energy.gov/programs/reserves/npr/Oil_Shale_Resource_Fact_Sheet.pdf

128 posted on 11/15/2007 9:31:02 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: dennisw; thackney; Uncledave; BOBTHENAILER; chimera

Fischer-Trospch?

Coal to diesel. If we could run 40% of our tranportation on diesel and 70% of our electricity on nuclear, we would be darn near energy inependent.


129 posted on 11/15/2007 9:46:53 AM PST by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW , Vote Hunter in the Primary)
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To: thackney

Thanks


130 posted on 11/15/2007 9:52:35 AM PST by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW , Vote Hunter in the Primary)
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To: CPT Clay
We import more uranium than we produce domestically.

Uranium Purchased by Owners and Operators of U.S. Civilian Nuclear Power Reactors, 1994-2006 Deliveries

NIMBYs and environmentatists are against more than coal and oil.

131 posted on 11/15/2007 9:53:24 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: CPT Clay
Yup, about 20 miles wide, runs roughly North to South through the state from about Fort Wayne to New Albany.

Probably has enough energy content to power Earth's industry at current levels for thousands of years.

Some places where the deposits are exposed there's a rather high incidence of bladder cancer, e.g. Jennings County. There's also a hot pluton in the vicinity of the Jackson/Jennings county line, and if that could be tapped you could probably power America by itself for many centuries.

Big advantage of that pluton is there are no mountains in the area.

The point is we've hardly begun to tap our existing energy resources, and if the Arabs run the price of oil up too high they may find themselves out of business ~ sucking sand so to speak.

132 posted on 11/15/2007 10:17:22 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: thackney; CPT Clay

Thanks for the map. I was referring only to the Eastern margins of the oil shales in Indiana where there’s a large uranium inclusion. That’s where I’d start working the deposits first.


133 posted on 11/15/2007 10:19:49 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Although the eastern deposits cover many more square miles, the Colorado, Utah and Wyoming deposits are far richer with much more available oil for much less effort.


134 posted on 11/15/2007 10:28:22 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Roy Tucker
The more we produce from oil sands, the more we will find ways to reduce the costs of doing so. The important thing is to get started.

That goes for promising renewables sources too.

135 posted on 11/15/2007 11:13:13 AM PST by Uncledave
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To: omega4179
Saudis don’t set the price high, commodities gamblers do.

...based to a certain degree on what the Saudis do and say.

136 posted on 11/15/2007 11:15:02 AM PST by Uncledave
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To: CPT Clay

Could not agree more.


137 posted on 11/15/2007 12:37:57 PM PST by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: Dane
Commenting in Arabic, Ali Al-Naimi noted that the "sands of oil" in northern Alberta need prices to be at least $40 to $60 US a barrel to develop the massive reserves, which are pegged as second only to Saudi Arabia's.

Well then how fortunate for Canada that the OPEC gang and the inability for any ME nation to have a stable and sane populace have driven the price to nearly 100$ a barrel..

138 posted on 11/15/2007 12:40:11 PM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: Dane

BTW Oil is fungible so while you may not make as much on the investment in canada to consumers its all the same.. And some of the extraction cost has to be worth stability


139 posted on 11/15/2007 12:41:04 PM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: thackney

I did a search on the eastern shales. Looks like the next Barnett.


140 posted on 11/15/2007 12:49:40 PM PST by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW , Vote Hunter in the Primary)
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