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Hillary Clinton to speak at Rick Warren's church
One News Now ^ | November 15, 2007 | Fred Jackson

Posted on 11/15/2007 7:41:47 AM PST by ZGuy

Senator Hillary Clinton (D-New York) will join Rick Warren at his California church this month for an AIDS conference.

Warren says he has invited several other presidential candidates from both parties to attend his third annual Global Summit on AIDS, but Senator Clinton is the only one, so far, to confirm. According to a press release, others who have expressed interest and currently are dealing with scheduling issues include GOP presidential candidates Mitt Romney, Mike Huckabee, and Rudy Giuliani, and Democrats John Edwards and Senator Barak Obama (D-Illinois).

According to Warren, "Inviting politicians from different perspectives to the Summit is not a political decision -- it is a humanitarian and Christian action." The Summit is scheduled for Nov. 27-Dec. 1 at Saddleback Church, Warren's church in Lake Forest, California.

Obama was one of the speakers during Warren's Global Summit on AIDS last year, as was Senator Sam Brownback (R-Kansas) who last month withdrew from the GOP presidential competition.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: aids; hillary; jumpedtheshark; megachurch; rickwarren; saddleback
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1 posted on 11/15/2007 7:41:48 AM PST by ZGuy
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To: ZGuy

Birds of a feather..........


2 posted on 11/15/2007 7:42:18 AM PST by fishtank ("Patriotic Nationalism?" - YES!!!....."Globalist Multiculturalism?" - NO!!!,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,)
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To: ZGuy

Golly Gee! Will Joy Behar bring up Seperation of Church and state today over this?

(not bloody likely)


3 posted on 11/15/2007 7:42:48 AM PST by Badeye (That Karma thing keeps coming around, eh Sally? (chuckle))
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To: ZGuy

Hillary will say that she tried to get AIDS, but was turned down becasue she’s a woman.


4 posted on 11/15/2007 7:43:35 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: ZGuy

I wonder if Jesus will get a mention.


5 posted on 11/15/2007 7:44:31 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Badeye
Separation of church and state only applies to Republicans, didn’t you know?

Dems can visit the inner city churches all they want and no one says a thing.

6 posted on 11/15/2007 7:45:00 AM PST by tips up
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To: ZGuy

Warren=Pseudominister


7 posted on 11/15/2007 7:46:18 AM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: tips up

So I’ve seen.


8 posted on 11/15/2007 7:46:48 AM PST by Badeye (That Karma thing keeps coming around, eh Sally? (chuckle))
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To: AppyPappy

Who? (sarcasm)


9 posted on 11/15/2007 7:49:17 AM PST by ushr435
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To: AppyPappy
Very doubtful -

...however Hillary and Rick can join together in singing the drug song “Purple Haze” - i.e. as he did a while back when “celebrating” his “ministry / church” anniversary sac/

10 posted on 11/15/2007 7:49:46 AM PST by VRWCTexan (History has a long memory - but still repeats itself)
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To: Gamecock

PING!!!!!!!!!!


11 posted on 11/15/2007 8:03:16 AM PST by alpha-8-25-02 ("SAVED BY GRACE AND GRACE ALONE")
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To: alpha-8-25-02
A nation wide revival, where people truly repent of sin and embrace the Savior, it would stop AIDS, illegal drugs, drunkenness, gambling, murder, family violence, stealing, divorce, adultery and fornication.

If Christians followed Christ commands it would make a huge impact on the world.

What are some of the commands of Christ?

1. Repent—Matthew 4:17—Humility
2. Follow Me—Matthew 4:19—Meekness
3. Rejoice—Matthew 5:12—Joyfulness
4. Let Your Light Shine—Matthew 5:16—Generosity
5. Honor God’s Law—Matthew 5:17–18—Love
6. Be Reconciled—Matthew 5:24–25—Responsibility
7. Do Not Commit Adultery—Matthew 5:29–30—Self-Control
8. Keep Your Word—Matthew 5:37—Truthfulness
9. Go the Second Mile—Matthew 5:38–42—Deference
10. Love Your Enemies—Matthew 5:44—Creativity
11. Be Perfect—Matthew 5:48—Sincerity
12. Practice Secret Disciplines—Matthew 6:1–18—Faith
13. Lay Up Treasures—Matthew 6:19–21—Thriftiness
14. Seek God’s Kingdom—Matthew 6:33—Initiative
15. Judge Not—Matthew 7:1—Discernment
16. Do Not Cast Pearls—Matthew 7:6—Discretion
17. Ask, Seek, and Knock—Matthew 7:7–8—Resourcefulness
18. Do Unto Others—Matthew 7:12—Sensitivity
19. Choose the Narrow Way—Matthew 7:13–14—Decisiveness
20. Beware of False Prophets—Matthew 7:15—Alertness
21. Pray For Laborers—Matthew 9:38—Compassion
22. Be Wise as Serpents—Matthew 10:16—Wisdom
23. Fear God, Not Man—Matthew 10:26—Boldness
24. Hear God’s Voice—Matthew 11:15—Attentiveness
25. Take My Yoke—Matthew 11:29—Obedience
26. Honor Your Parents—Matthew 15:4—Honor/Reverence
27. Beware of Leaven—Matthew 16:6—Virtue
28. Deny Yourself—Luke 9:23—Determination
29. Despise Not Little Ones—Matthew 18:10—Tolerance
30. Go to Offenders—Matthew 18:15—Justice
31. Beware of Covetousness—Luke 12:15—Contentment
32. Forgive Offenders—Matthew 18:21–22—Forgiveness
33. Honor Marriage—Matthew 19:6—Loyalty
34. Be a Servant—Matthew 20:26–28—Availability
35. Be a House of Prayer—Matthew 21:13—Persuasiveness
36. Ask in Faith—Matthew 21:21–22—Patience
37. Bring in the Poor—Luke 14:12–14—Hospitality
38. Render to Caesar—Matthew 22:19–21—Gratefulness
39. Love the Lord—Matthew 22:37–38—Enthusiasm
40. Love Your Neighbor—Matthew 22:39—Gentleness
41. Await My Return—Matthew 24:42–44—Punctuality
42. Take, Eat, and Drink—Matthew 26:26–27—Thoroughness
43. Be Born Again—John 3:7—Security
44. Keep My Commandments—John 14:15—Diligence
45. Watch and Pray—Matthew 26:41—Endurance
46. Feed My Sheep—John 21:15–16—Dependability
47. Baptize My Disciples—Matthew 28:19—Cautiousness
48. Receive God’s Power—Luke 24:49—Orderliness
49. Make Disciples—Matthew 28:20—Flexibility

12 posted on 11/15/2007 8:39:48 AM PST by Rodm (Seest thou a man diligent in his business? He shall stand before kings)
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To: Rodm

mark


13 posted on 11/15/2007 8:42:36 AM PST by griswold3 (Al queda is guilty of hirabah (war against society) Penalty is death.)
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To: Coldwater Creek

Rick gets another infamous name to fawn over and drop.

This pseudominister is turning out to be the James Lipton of the pseudoevangelical world.


14 posted on 11/15/2007 9:04:06 AM PST by Cecily
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To: Rodm

Thank you for that - it took a lot of work, I’m sure. We used to live in southern CA and attended Saddleback Valley ONCE. ONCE was all we could take of any of the megachurches there. The rest were for the most part nondenominational and as bland as Pablum! We relocated to Duluth, GA a year ago and it’s like heaven to attend a small church (Independent Baptist) and a pastor who believes in preaching the Word of God..no fear of offending anyone here. If someone is offended, tough!


15 posted on 11/15/2007 9:15:57 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: ZGuy

What a fraud Warren is turning out to be. Instead of confronting leaders who pursue and celebrate evil, he wants to dialogue and compromise with them.

Like that’s really going to change the sorry direction of this country...


16 posted on 11/15/2007 9:21:13 AM PST by Elpasser
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To: Rodm

Very well said. Most political issues/problems are behavioral problems. A spirit filled mind is much less likely to sin yet much more likely to be compassionate in word and deed. Thus, to try to detach religion from politics is wrong.

A religious revival would be the best thing ever for this country . . . and the world.


17 posted on 11/15/2007 9:21:26 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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To: Quix; DocRock; del4hope; Alex Murphy; Gamecock; Dr. Eckleburg; jude24; Ottofire; fishtank; ...
YBPDLNPL Ping


18 posted on 11/15/2007 9:23:11 AM PST by Gamecock (Gamecock: Declared anathema by the Council of Trent!)
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To: ZGuy

Is “Rick Warren” somebody?


19 posted on 11/15/2007 9:23:18 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: ZGuy

The pimping of the church.....this should not be taking place. I am disgusted at Saddleback for turning a place of worship into a den of thieves.


20 posted on 11/15/2007 9:23:56 AM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: ZGuy

Not a surprise.


21 posted on 11/15/2007 9:25:37 AM PST by Jane Austen
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To: ZGuy
Rick Warren is trying to help with an overwhelming problem in Africa. To build bridges to others who will have some impact on the possible solutions to that problem is the right thing for a Christian to do.

When Katrina hit New Orleans and the surrounding area our church family worked with anyone we could to help the people in need. (Gasp)We even help build a children's park once.

You are not compromised as a minister or a Christian if you work with others to accomplish a material goal. Warren is not asking H. Clinton to share the plan of salvation.

22 posted on 11/15/2007 9:28:37 AM PST by reflecting
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To: Gamecock
Imagine the photographs the Pharisees would have posted if they had had computers back when Jesus was eating with sinners. You are in danger of being like those who condemned the Lord.
23 posted on 11/15/2007 9:31:58 AM PST by reflecting
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To: Lancey Howard
Yes. He's a traitor for having gone to Syria, giving "aid and comfort" to an enemy of the United States who's directly involved in killing and injuring US troops in Iraq.

Hillary the communist will be in cozy company.

24 posted on 11/15/2007 9:32:24 AM PST by onedoug
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To: ZGuy

GOD HAVE MERCY.

First CFR and now this?

Sheesh.


25 posted on 11/15/2007 9:35:18 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Elpasser
How is it a compromise to talk and listen to someone about a common problem? IS our faith so fragil? Or should we just never speak to those awful sinners? Do you do any business at all with anyone who is not a believer? Are you living by this standard yourself? Did a Christian build your home, is your surgeon a believer, who fixes your car....OH come on guys!
26 posted on 11/15/2007 9:36:09 AM PST by reflecting
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To: reflecting

see 24


27 posted on 11/15/2007 9:40:25 AM PST by Gamecock (Gamecock: Declared anathema by the Council of Trent!)
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To: AppyPappy
exactly... truly another sign of the times.

who am I to judge, but has rick warrens lamp gone out? i try to think of the following verse on my own life.

matthew 7

21 Not everyone who says to Me, "Lord, Lord," shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.

22 Many will say to Me in that day, "Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?"

23 And then I will declare to them, "I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness."

28 posted on 11/15/2007 9:40:43 AM PST by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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To: reflecting

So satan walks into the church and says hey........

I don’t ask people about their religion. However if there were to be some oddball speaker at church on sunday who campaigns for abortion and homosexual rights then I would indeed have a concern and ask the pastor why is that person here.


29 posted on 11/15/2007 9:41:05 AM PST by linn37 (phlebotomist on duty,its just a little pinch)
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To: reflecting
Rick Warren is trying to help with an overwhelming problem in Africa. To build bridges to others who will have some impact on the possible solutions to that problem is the right thing for a Christian to do.

Yeah, right...Nice try!

What possible solutions could a pro-homosexual, pro-abortion, liberal politician offer that could have a positive impact (other than throw more tax-payer monies at the issue)?

However, I do think that Saddleback will be a perfect campaign stop for Hillary.

30 posted on 11/15/2007 9:45:16 AM PST by pby
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To: ZGuy

Rich Warren has jumped the shark.


31 posted on 11/15/2007 9:47:19 AM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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To: Rodm

Self ping


32 posted on 11/15/2007 9:47:53 AM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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To: linn37

she is speaking to a group concerned about aids at his church, she is not preaching to anyone.


33 posted on 11/15/2007 9:48:10 AM PST by reflecting
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To: Rodm

pushpin


34 posted on 11/15/2007 9:50:58 AM PST by woollyone (entropy extirpates evolution and conservation confirms the Creator blessed forever.)
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To: pby
I suppose she might have a solution similar to a pro-homosexual, pro-abortion liberal doctor who stopped to give your wife emergency aid after an auto accident.
35 posted on 11/15/2007 9:51:32 AM PST by reflecting
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To: reflecting

Are you a member of this church that she is going to speak at?


36 posted on 11/15/2007 9:52:53 AM PST by linn37 (phlebotomist on duty,its just a little pinch)
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To: Rodm

where’d you find that?


37 posted on 11/15/2007 9:52:56 AM PST by woollyone (entropy extirpates evolution and conservation confirms the Creator blessed forever.)
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To: ZGuy
According to Warren, "Inviting politicians from different perspectives to the Summit is not a political decision -- it is a humanitarian and Christian action."

I think that should read: "Inviting politicians from different perspectives to the Summit is not a Christian decision -- it is a political and humanitarian action." He must put aside Christian beliefs to invite non-believers, liberal christians, Mormons and whatever else to speak at his church. As he states his reasons, it is to come together on the issue of AIDS (though there are important disagreements I would hope are not overlooked). Just because it is Christian to care about sick people, doesn't mean it is Christian to embrace any means and any representative.

38 posted on 11/15/2007 9:53:42 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: linn37

no - and while I have read Rick Warren’s book, I also read many others.


39 posted on 11/15/2007 9:55:17 AM PST by reflecting
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To: reflecting

So you are a fan of his. So no matter what sleazy person he drags in you will find a way to excuse it.


40 posted on 11/15/2007 9:57:32 AM PST by linn37 (phlebotomist on duty,its just a little pinch)
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To: reflecting
Do you think that Warren will tell Hillary to, "go and sin no more" like Jesus did when he interacted with a certain sinner?

Can you cite an example from Scripture that demonstrates the methodology which you propose and support: A Christian working with unsaved person(s) in order to solve a social issue?

41 posted on 11/15/2007 9:58:01 AM PST by pby
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
HE does not put aside anything to have these people speak ———— good grief. All kinds of people came to tell us what could be done to help our neighbors in New Orleans..... did we compromise the Faith to listen to them and even act on some of their ideas?... did our commitment to the Gospel of Jesus Christ waver? How wrong to think as believer we should not talk to powerful people about large problems.
42 posted on 11/15/2007 9:59:48 AM PST by reflecting
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To: ZGuy

I think there is a responsibility of the church to not put someone at their podium to speak on any subject, if that person doesn’t believe what that church believes.


43 posted on 11/15/2007 9:59:52 AM PST by Halls (I hate illegals, I hate socialism, I hate liberals! What else can I say?)
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To: linn37
I am not a fan...some people truly are able to make thoughtful evaluations of situations without favortism. Maybe that is your problem, usually we accuse others of our own methods/actions. If Fred Thompson was the only one speaking would it be O.K. with you?
44 posted on 11/15/2007 10:02:45 AM PST by reflecting
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To: ZGuy

Rick Warren is CREEPY!! That GOATTEE is CREEPY!


45 posted on 11/15/2007 10:06:19 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: reflecting
My wife wouldn't have an auto accident inside the four walls of my church!

And furthermore, the Church, and it's pastors, were not directed by Jesus Christ to be first-responders to the scene of an accident...They were directed to feed and protect the sheep and to go make disciples (teaching them to be obedient to Christ's commands).

46 posted on 11/15/2007 10:07:12 AM PST by pby
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To: Gamecock

Is Grassley looking into Rick Warren’s “church”?? Doubt it.


47 posted on 11/15/2007 10:08:09 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: reflecting

Rick Warren is a PHONY.....sorry.


48 posted on 11/15/2007 10:09:15 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: reflecting

I accused you of being ok with dragging sleazy people into the church. Ha ha good luck with turning that on me. I’m against it dear not for it.


49 posted on 11/15/2007 10:17:02 AM PST by linn37 (phlebotomist on duty,its just a little pinch)
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To: ZGuy
Senator Hillary Clinton (D-New York) will join Rick Warren at his California church this month for an AIDS conference.

::::sigh:::: I've been trying hard to give Warren the benefit of the doubt, but I think he's crossed the line.

50 posted on 11/15/2007 10:17:55 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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