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FBI raids Liberty Dollar office-confiscates Ron Paul Dollars
http://www.rabidquill.com/ ^ | Nov 15, 2007 | "BJT"

Posted on 11/15/2007 7:50:21 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder

Frontal Assault on Freedom: FBI Raids Liberty Dollar Posted by BJT on Nov 15, 2007 Read this email closely. I just got it this morning. Those of you who consider the gold standard a quaint anachronism, pay extra close attention. If Ron Paul supporters, gold standard advocates and the Liberty Dollar were nothing but harmless kooks, why would the FBI raid their offices when no crime was ever committed? This is a currency competing with the USD, yes, but they never, but never make the claim that it is legal tender or anything other than what it is: private currency. And private currencies are numerous in the USA.

No. This raid happened because the Liberty Dollar, the second most popular currency in the country, threatens to usurp the entrenched power of the Fed’s Almighty Dollar. People can see the buying power of the greenback eroding, and they will choose something else if it is available, and the Liberty Dollar is ready and waiting. And that’s why the government must resort to force in order to protect its stranglehold on the economy.

From Liberty Dollar Headquarters: Dear Liberty Dollar Supporters:

I sincerely regret to inform you that about 8:00 this morning a dozen FBI and Secret Service agents raided the Liberty Dollar office in Evansville.

For approximately six hours they took all the gold, all the silver, all the platinum and almost two tons of Ron Paul Dollars that where just delivered last Friday. They also took all the files, all the computers and froze our bank accounts.

We have no money. We have no products. We have no records to even know what was ordered or what you are owed. We have nothing but the will to push forward and overcome this massive assault on our liberty and our right to have real money as defined by the US Constitution. We should not to be defrauded by the fake government money.

But to make matters worse, all the gold and silver that backs up the paper certificates and digital currency held in the vault at Sunshine Mint has also been confiscated. Even the dies for mint the Gold and Silver Libertys have been taken.

This in spite of the fact that Edmond C. Moy, the Director of the Mint, acknowledged in a letter to a US Senator that the paper certificates did not violate Section 486 and were not illegal. But the FBI and Services took all the paper currency too.

The possibility of such action was the reason the Liberty Dollar was designed so that the vast majority of the money was in specie form and in the people’s hands. Of the $20 million Liberty Dollars, only about a million is in paper or digital form.

I regret that if you are due an order. It may be some time until it will be filled… if ever… it now all depends on our actions.

Everyone who has an unfulfilled order or has digital or paper currency should band together for a class action suit and demand redemption. We cannot allow the government to steal our money! Please don’t let this happen!!! Many of you read the articles quoting the government and Federal Reserve officials that the Liberty Dollar was legal. You did nothing wrong. You are legally entitled to your property. Let us use this terrible act to band together and further our goal – to return America to a value based currency.

Please forward this important Alert… so everyone who possess or use the Liberty Dollar is aware of the situation.

Please click HERE to sign up for the class action lawsuit and get your property back!

If the above link does not work you can access the page by copying the following into your web browser. http://www.libertydollar.org/classaction/index.php

Thanks again for your support at this darkest time as the damn government and their dollar sinks to a new low.

Bernard von NotHaus


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: bananas; currency; evillittlegnome; fiat; gold; kooks; libertydollar; norfed; nothaus; nutz; paulestinians; paultards; retreadalert; ronpaul; silver; sniff; zotbait
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To: rineaux
"There is a currency in use in Austin, Texas that shops accept as legal tender to make purchases of food, gas and some merchandise. It is suppose to be gaining some ground."

I work in Austin. Can you direct me to where these places are, and what they accept as currency?

41 posted on 11/15/2007 8:10:31 AM PST by lormand (Ron Paul - The Idiot's Idiot)
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To: kevkrom

That’s why I want to see the entire warrant published.


42 posted on 11/15/2007 8:10:44 AM PST by 50mm (Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist - G. Carlin)
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To: mnehrling

Nope. That was the Liberty Dollars. There was a RoT dollar for a while, but it wasn’t backed by anything. Even some of the HEB’s in Texas took Liberty Dollars.


43 posted on 11/15/2007 8:11:10 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: lormand
the Ron Paul "dollar" looks like this:

I can imagine what the Hillary Dollar will look like: .

44 posted on 11/15/2007 8:11:13 AM PST by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: mnehrling

Those are the aforementioned warehouse receipts. Supposedly, you could, at any time, exchange the paper bills for face value of the precious metal listed on the bill.


45 posted on 11/15/2007 8:12:13 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: WackySam

I recall reading an article about the bershare some time ago. Thanks for the reminder.


46 posted on 11/15/2007 8:12:13 AM PST by rineaux (How dare you, how dare you question the Clinton's wrecked record.)
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To: Moonman62
Why do I get the feeling that this is about fraud, not minting a legal alternate currency?

Probably for the same reason you felt that the killing of David Koresh's followers by the FBI was about drugs and child abuse

47 posted on 11/15/2007 8:12:43 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: KC Burke

Ron Paul 08’ - all the appearances of a dangerous cult.


48 posted on 11/15/2007 8:12:56 AM PST by lormand (Ron Paul - The Idiot's Idiot)
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To: KC Burke

The gold standard for Ron Paul is silver.


49 posted on 11/15/2007 8:13:02 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: KC Burke

Actually, considering their antiestablishmentarian view point, they would be highly unlike to put out coinage with an avowed socialists likeness on it.


50 posted on 11/15/2007 8:13:16 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Red Badger; All



There are coins, but there is also paper money.

http://www.libertydollar.org/

51 posted on 11/15/2007 8:13:29 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Mrs Crinton have Pay Feava. There she go now. "Ah Hsu Ahhh Hsu Ah Hsu!" Crintons worth every penny.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder; SJackson; Allegra; wagglebee; darkwing104; ejonesie22; mnehrling; ...
why would the FBI raid their offices when no crime was ever committed?

ipse dixit

52 posted on 11/15/2007 8:13:56 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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To: Red Badger

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-a_ton6RJbc

Adrian Smith - Silver and Gold

(unrelated)


53 posted on 11/15/2007 8:14:03 AM PST by wastedyears (One Marine vs. 550 consultants. Sounds like good odds to me.)
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To: Dead Corpse

The problem with the paper bills is you have to trust that whomever runs the Liberty Dollar will honor their printed gold or silver value. They were selling those as though there was a backed up with full faith and credit value.


54 posted on 11/15/2007 8:14:20 AM PST by mnehring (I am free not to support Ron Paul... Wow, I feel special...)
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To: George W. Bush; traviskicks

Ping.


55 posted on 11/15/2007 8:14:25 AM PST by rineaux (How dare you, how dare you question the Clinton's wrecked record.)
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To: mnehrling
Bernard von NotHausBernard von NotHaus
Monetary Architect



56 posted on 11/15/2007 8:14:43 AM PST by Petronski (Willardcare abortions $50 each, $25 per twin. Ask for S&H Stamps!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Word of the day?


57 posted on 11/15/2007 8:14:47 AM PST by lormand (Ron Paul - The Idiot's Idiot)
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To: lormand
These traitors need to be marched across the DMZ into North Korea.

Then you think that any merchant that issues a gift card should be marched across the border to North Korea too. What a maroon.

58 posted on 11/15/2007 8:15:06 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
a dozen FBI and Secret Service agents raided the Liberty Dollar office in Evansville.

Evansville, Indiana? That's where I am and there nothing on the local news about it. Furthermore, the Federal Building is about 3 blocks from me and except for a couple of Federal Marshalls taking a smoke break, it's quiet as a churchyard this morning.

59 posted on 11/15/2007 8:15:28 AM PST by CholeraJoe (Be unique. It makes it easier for the rest of us to identify the morons.)
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To: mysterio
Waiting to see how many posters are AOK with this theft of private property by our government.

I am waiting to see whether any theft actually occurred, or whether this internet dude is making up a story to cover his inability or unwillingness to deliver the merchandise people paid him for.

Madalyn Murry O'Hair pulled a similar scam: defrauding "hard money" investors in silver and gold and claiming that it was because the government was persecuting her for her militant atheism.

I wonder if Bernard Von NotHaus (certainly not his birthname) is defrauding "hard money" investors in silver and gold and claiming that it is because the government is persecuting him for his anti-war rhetoric.

60 posted on 11/15/2007 8:15:29 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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