Posted on 11/15/2007 9:34:48 AM PST by LS
Giuliani Catches Clinton In Ohio, Quinnipiac University Poll Finds; Strickland On Ticket Won't Help Dems
Former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani and New York Sen. Hillary Clinton remain virtually deadlocked with 44 percent for the Democrat and 43 percent for the Republican in the Ohio presidential race. Voters say 49 - 29 percent that Gov. Ted Strickland is not qualified to be vice president and his presence on the ticket would not help the Democratic nominee, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today.
Mayor Giuliani and Sen. Clinton each hold substantial leads in the race for their party nominations, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University poll finds. While 55 percent of Ohio voters say they are less likely to vote against a candidate who favors issuing driver's licenses to illegal immigrants, only 3 percent are more likely to support that candidate.
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In other possible presidential matchups:
* Giuliani trails former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards 46 - 40 percent and ties Illinois Sen. Barack Obama 41 - 41 percent;
* Clinton loses to Arizona Sen. John McCain 46 - 42 percent and defeats former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson 48 - 38 and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney 47 - 38 percent.
It's also interesting that in many of these polls, Edwards does MUCH better against any Republican than either Hillary or Obama!
It will be a long tough pull, but we can stop the beast.
Interesting, but in no way surprising. I've been posting for months that Hillary absolutely, positively will NOT be the 'rat candidate in '08; the hardcore leftist nutroots positively despises her.(they genuinely believe that she's a "right-wing conservative" [!!!]), and they're the ones in their party's driver's seat right now. Check out the DU and Kos ratholes sometime, and see for yourself.
We should be preparing for either Edwards or Obama as our opponent in '08. It will be one of those two, guaranteed. Bookmark for future reference. ;)
I like Rudy but I wouldn't back him just because he might beat Hillary, Hillary might not be the nominee. How would Rudy vs. Edwards be in Georgia, SC, NC, Arkansas, Mississippi or Louisiana?
If the Democrats were smart, they’d nominate Edwards. He’s actually the most formidable candidate they have, at least superficially.
I’m real nervous about Ohio. That jackass Taft really screwed the GOP there. If he had just resigned when the scandals broke instead of sticking it out like a stubborn mule, the damage done to the GOP there could have been mitigated. Now, thanks in part to he and that boob Nay, we’ll be lucky to hold Ohio no matter who the candidate is. And it is a must-hold state.
* Clinton loses to Arizona Sen. John McCain 46 - 42 percent and defeats former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson 48 - 38 and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney 47 - 38 percent.
Does that mean she defeats Thompson and Romney in Arizona or nationally? If Arizona is this close for McCain and that bad for Thompson and Romney, that is really bad news. It tells you how Mexi-fied AZ. has gotten. I realize it’s early, but this doesn’t bode well for next year if normally non-competitive red states are this much in play. Sheesh.
Wow, Kent, I sure hope you are wrong. Edwards is 100 times more slimy than Hillary. He’s a REAL lawyer-—she’s a fake.
You got it: Edwards would win all those. However, he might well lose NM, MO, PA, WI, and a couple of other upper-northern/northwestern states. Hard to tell how his southern populism plays up there vs. a Rudy or Romney. But in the South, he would beat ANY Republican.
There is a little good news. Latta has stepped up for the upper OH district seat that was open. We are still trying to fill two others from retirements.
(This is consistent with a dozen SurveyUSA state polls I've posted in the last three weeks showing McCain beats Hillary in many states---KY, KS, NM, VA, GA, AL, and runs very close in WI, WA, and even MI. Those same polls show Rudy winning the key competitive electoral college states, except, now, for this Q. poll on OH.)
You and I both. I live here in Ohio. I’d cheerfully beat the living hell out of Bob Taft if I ever got the chance over the damage he did here, not to mention how he flat out LIED about his positions on various issues (He said he supported CCW for example, then VETO’d it TWICE).
Lord, how I hate what that man has done to my State.
On the bright side, more and more people are whispering about Strickland, his gay aide he vacations in Europe with, and the fact Stricklands wife lives in Lexington....KENTUCKY.
Is it your sense, too, that so far Strickland hasn’t done anything significant enough to get the voters angry at him?
I worked for Taft’s campaign pollster, Neil Newhouse with whom Taft was long time buddies and let me tell you if Taft is anything like the ass I worked for it doesn’t surprise me Taft dug in his heels and did the kind of damage he did to the GOP. I have no doubt Newhouse was one of the influences urging Taft to stay. He wasn’t about to lose that cash cow. Thanks Neil, you and your buddy Bob screwed the GOP in Ohio and likely nationally as well! We’d still control the Senate if not for Taft and Ken Blackwell would be governor, not this homo Strickland.
For the record I like Hunter and Thompson but as a realist McCain does very well with independents. I looked for an Edwards vs. McCain poll but I didn't see one.
Edwards is the likeliest bet, overall. Obama recently drove the 'rat gay/lesbian community into absolute shrieking hysterics by having some gospel singer by the name of Donnie McClurkin performing at some campaign fundraisers on his behalf; said (still-)ongoing tantrum due to McClurkin's being active in anti-gay agenda circles.
While the gay/lesbian voting population isn't a massive one, overall... it's a wildly disporportionate powerhouse within the Democratic Party, itself. That's the chiefest reason why Obama's polling numbers have been steadily dwindling on the national level, right there.
Edwards is telegenic and (superficially, at least) charming. He's the most articulate of all the potential 'rat nominees, and can easily speak impromptu. He's the threat, ultimately.
What a bad stretch for Hillary! Caught in flip flops, giving illegal aliens drivers licenses, and now being caught red handed in a contrived campaign stop being asked scripted questions (which I assume goes on all the time with her).
Yep, so far. I think he’s under orders from the national party not to do anything that might tip Ohio to the GOP in 2008.
Thats why he’s talking about 25 year plans...(eyes rolling)
‘We’d still control the Senate if not for Taft and Ken Blackwell would be governor, not this homo Strickland.’
Yep.
Since you brought up Blackwell, let me add I’ll never EVER forgive Jim Petro for those bigoted ads he ran in the GOP primaries against Blackwell, nor will I ever forget the Ohio GOP didn’t rip Petro a new ass over it.
Can’t disagree with any of your logic. The only problem is, Edwards isn’t in the top TWO of any major poll except, I think, NC. It’s a matter of delegates, and don’t underestimate the ability of the Clintons to at gunpoint “persuade” people to vote for Hillary. If I see Edwards win one or two primaries, I’m down with your interpretation. But not until then.
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