Posted on 11/15/2007 10:44:56 AM PST by pissant
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You offer no proof for a pro choice past for Thompson. Show us the clip on youtube. Oh wait there is not one? NRLC endorsed Thompson? The truth is sir that you look rather sad and silly to those who remember your earlier "debate" with Thompson regarding federalism where he humbled you.
You want YouTube? Here you go.
Hi just read your interesting article on national review online on GOP flip floppers. However, the paragraph on Thompson was confusing. Are you saying he used to be Pro-choice and he has changed his position and is lying about it? People do change legitimately but I don't like flip floppers. Can you clarify what you meant about him? I am seriously thinking about voting for him. Thanks.
"Lying" is a strong word that I am hesitant to apply to a friend. But yes, Thompson was pro-choice and has not been upfront about it.
I believe your judgement is totally incorrect about Fred. Last time I checked while serving as a senator he never ever voted for abortion. If forgetting about filling out an issues form is the most egregious lie you can find consider me unimpressed. As far as his giving advice to a pro-choice client, would you also support muslim taxi drivers refusing to pick someone up due to having bacon in their bag? Giving advice was his job that doesn't make him pro-choice any more than a giving a lift makes the taxi driver pro-bacon.
Listen I know Fred has committed the unforgivible sin of not campaigning the way every one says he must. His style seems to be fatal to his run. On principle, however, he has all the conservative buttons pushed. It appears though that principled conservatism isn't the most important factor anymore.
The template has been made I guess. Fred is too lazy. We've all decided. Just remember that the last President to take naps was really really good, while the Presidents that jog have pretty much sucked. I'd rather have Reagan for 8 hrs. than Bush for 12.
In 1994, Thompson said in a debate that he was against the government—and not just the federal government—criminalizing abortion. He said the same thing in an interview with Republican Liberty. Newspapers described him as pro-choice, and he didn't correct them. In 1997, he sent a constituent a letter re-affirming his pro-choice convictions. His pro-choice lobbying is not at all analogous to driving a taxi, or even being a criminal defense lawyer. I know plenty of lobbyists who would not have helped a pro-abortion group try to get abortion laws liberalized, because they're pro-life. Thompson wasn't. I think it's terrific that he changed his mind on the issue, as I did, but he ought to admit that's what he did.
11/15 12:03 PM
I see you’re still a sour puss spreading sour grapes. LOL Jim told you this was getting old. I agree. If you spent more time posting positive articles about your guy, Duncan Hunter, you might be of some help to his failing campaign effort.
Ramesh Punnuru is entitled to his opinion. He just happens to be dead wrong. Going back to at least 1994, Fred Thompson was never pro-choice. In 1994 and 1996 the NRTL Committe endorsed Fred`s election and reelection to the Senate. Fred had a 100% pro-life voting record while in the Senate. Since at least 1994 Fred has been pro-life.
In 2007 Fred remains pro-life. In 2007 the NRTL has endorsed Fred for President. Doesn’t get any better then that.
Go Fred go!
The first time I heard about Ron Paul was from a guy on another board who is a real jerk. He starts multiple threads about whatever his pet peeve of the week is, all just a little different. He hollers and fusses if people don’t respond to each and every one of his points but feels free to ignore whatever point his debaters raise against him that he doesn’t like.
Oh, I left off “Go Fred!”
Yes, but I reckon the national review is pretty safe fodder for FR, don’t you?
Hey Ramesh Ponnuru, get you're head out of your butt. The Republican Party Platform opposes criminalizing abortion and throwing women in jail. The GOP Pro-life PLank states:
~~~ We oppose abortion, but our pro-life agenda does not include punitive action against women who have an abortion.
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>The first time I heard about Ron Paul was from a guy on another board who is a real jerk.
I want to make clear that I don’t think you, Pissant, are a jerk, but every other point of comparison matches. Change name of the candidate and voila!
And Ramesh Ponnuru, and Richard Viguerie, and Phyllis Schlafly, and Annie Coulter and Micheal Reagan and and..
Fodder? In what way? NR has been pi$$ed ever since the endorsement for Fred came out...and I have been enjoying every moment of their discontent....and yours. GO FRED!
Best put your efforts into supporting your candidate. Trashing FRed 24/7 will not help you and it’s wearing thin...
He has a 100% PRO LIFE VOTING RECORD! Those people you name do not know you... and you do not know them!
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It’s too bad, but at the same time..
ping to smoldering ruin
DRINK!!
I think an interesting poll for FR or a national poll would be the following:
1. Are you:
Pro-life
Pro-choice
2. When you cast a vote in a national election how important is the candidate’s position on abortion?
It is my only deciding factor
It is very important
It is somewhat important
It is not very important
It makes no difference in my voting preference.
It would be illuminating to link up the answer to the first qustion with the various answers to the second. Are pro-abortion people more or less likely than pro-life people to make voting decisions based on the abortion question?
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I hope so. New and improved, of course. :)
Ouch! That hadda hurt!
Keep trying...
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Punnuru is generally an OK guy, but I think he’s still smarting from getting smacked down on federalism back in the summer (and I recall in that exchange, he misrepresented Thompson’s position on tort reform) and is looking for a little payback.
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You'll have to wait for that... he appears to have been given a "time out".
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Amen, baby.
The Republican Party Platform opposes criminalizing abortion
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so you are saying abortion should be “safe, legal and rare”? wasn’t that Bill Clinton’s position?
Good riddance. It was getting old : )
Looks like pissant has taken that long walk down a short pier. Maybe some of you would hazard an opinion on my poll idea in Post #19. I’m not asking you to take the poll, I’m asking if you think it would be a useful poll.
Thanks
here’s the youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5a_Fpu_8KE
Oh geez, not this bullsh*t again.
No, that’s not what he said. How you managed to read that into what he said is a mystery.
I think it is his lack of organization that will (has?) kill him.
Pro-life
2. When you cast a vote in a national election how important is the candidate’s position on abortion?
It is very important
Duncan Hunter, who has been in the race since spring, is at 2% in the Rasmussen and has less than $133,000 in available funds. So... who will you support when he withdraws? Or will you just sit on your "oh so principled" hands and watch Rudy and then Hillary give their victory parties?
Hunter is not long for the race. Rudy is not going anywhere. What's your plan? Who are we going to rally behind to keep the nomination from an openly liberal Republican? Inquiring minds want to know.
Too bad. Pissant could be too pissy on the subject of Hunter.
Defend the candidates on their merits or lack thereof.
Might be a few Huckabee supporters heading down the same road if they aren’t careful!
Overturning Roe v Wade as the law of the land and ending abortion on demand as the national policy of the US government, is the best we pro-lifers can hope for at this time.
Damn, I missed it, what happened?
btw - I was also ringside when Tailgunner Joe was crispified: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1924915/posts?page=97#97
If he returns, he will behave for about a week (tops), before returning to his piss boy ways.
but i thought what we ultimately wanted was to criminalize abortion. not the woman but the abortionist
A week?
riiight...
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I missed that one.
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I have no doubt of it.
I wonder what his next screen name will be?
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