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Sen. Reid Will Keep Senate Working to Block Bush
Newsmax ^ | Friday, November 16, 2007 1:20 PM | Kenneth Williams

Posted on 11/16/2007 4:48:28 PM PST by ECM

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., will keep the U.S. Senate in session over the Thanksgiving break because he wants to block President Bush from making any recess appointments.

Roll Call is reporting that Sen. Reid inserted a statement into the record Friday stating that he will "hold the Senate in a series of pro forma or nonvoting sessions" to prevent Bush from exercising his appointment power.

Reid said, “While an election year looms, significant progress can still be made on nominations. I am committed to making that progress if the President will meet me halfway.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 110th; bush; dingy; obstruction; recessappointments; reid; thanksgiving
Money quote:

“But that progress can’t be made if the President seeks controversial recess appointments and fails to make Democratic appointments to important commissions.

1 posted on 11/16/2007 4:48:30 PM PST by ECM
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To: ECM
Dingbat Harry wants to hold up every one's Thanksgiving out of BDS!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 11/16/2007 4:49:38 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: ECM

Gee thats a relief, I thought for sure he was giving up!


3 posted on 11/16/2007 4:50:05 PM PST by ronnie raygun (Id rather be hunting with dick than driving with ted)
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To: ECM

The democratic senate is the biggest waste of taxpayer dollars in the history of our country, IMHO.


4 posted on 11/16/2007 4:50:53 PM PST by PROCON
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To: ECM
As I posted on a previous thread:

Let’s see if I’ve got it right. President Bush will be in Crawford celebrating Thanksgiving with his family and friends, while Reid will be in Washington D.C. celebrating nothing and being with no one. And Reid's colleagues will be doing the same. Reid is lower than whale sh*t at the bottom of the ocean.

5 posted on 11/16/2007 4:53:21 PM PST by Bushbacker1 (Officially Fredbacker1 but don't know how to change my name)
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To: PROCON
The Democrat Congress hasn't passed the appropriations bills necessary to keep the federal government running.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

6 posted on 11/16/2007 4:53:32 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: ECM

What goes around comes around. When you are two years old, you may not grasp the concept.


7 posted on 11/16/2007 4:54:43 PM PST by Tarpon
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To: ECM

He has that right - wrongheaded as it is.


8 posted on 11/16/2007 4:55:41 PM PST by Eddie01
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To: Bushbacker1

Naw, they all have nice homes in DC and their families will join them there. The good senators would never punish themselves.


9 posted on 11/16/2007 4:56:12 PM PST by BARLF (Who is Huma?)
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To: ECM
arrrgh, chasin' Moby Bush again I see....


10 posted on 11/16/2007 4:59:18 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: ECM
Anyone who knows the Senate rules, knows how this ploy by Reid can be defeated. Even when the Senate is in a non-voting mode, any Senator can say to the person presiding (there has to be someone presiding), "Mr. President, I suggest the lack of a quorum." At that point, the clerk must call the roll.

If no quorum shows up, then the Senate MUST adjourn, without further action of any kind. Then the decks would be cleared for recess appointments, should the President wish to make any such appointments.

Glad I could be of service.

Congressman Billybob

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11 posted on 11/16/2007 5:02:45 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Congressman Sir, you are a wealth of knowledge, thanks, didn’t know that!!


12 posted on 11/16/2007 5:06:52 PM PST by PROCON
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To: Congressman Billybob

“.... the Senate MUST adjourn, without further action of any kind. Then the decks would be cleared for recess appointments, should the President wish to make any such appointments.”

They adjourn, but would that qualify as a recess allowing an appointment? Seems as though the President could make an appointment every evening when they adjourned for the day.


13 posted on 11/16/2007 5:09:53 PM PST by casino66 ( If I vote Dem I'll get everything 'free')
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To: ECM

Gee....These people have simply scrapped the Constitution!


14 posted on 11/16/2007 5:12:18 PM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: ECM

Is there even any appointments coming up to block? Thought Mucasy(sp) was the only one and he got approved.


15 posted on 11/16/2007 5:14:36 PM PST by Domandred (Eagles soar, but unfortunately weasels never get sucked into jet engines)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Since that is the case Reid is a bigger moron than thought.

He either doesn't understand the Senate rules, which I doubt, or he thinks this ploy will work to accomplish exactly what?

Have the American public feel sorry for them?

Make Bush look like a meanie ?

Even the Media will think him an asshat?

What possible purpose could this serve?

16 posted on 11/16/2007 5:15:15 PM PST by Popman (My doohickey is discombobulated)
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To: casino66
The Senate (or House) is only in recess when it has adjourned sine die (which means “without day”). When a House closes at night, it has already set a schedule for the next working day. But a new schedule can only be set by action of the whole Senate, or by consent between the majority and minority. Neither would apply, under what I suggested.

John / Billybob

17 posted on 11/16/2007 5:23:50 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: ECM

Dingy-Harry A.K.A. Golum./Just Asking - seoul62........


18 posted on 11/16/2007 5:26:14 PM PST by seoul62 (e)
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To: ECM
Reid = a mean spirited, bitter man still stinging from the fact Mr. Bush won two elections the right way (by getting more Electoral college votes than challenger #1 and challenger #2).

Mr. Reid, history will find that you are a loser... it will NOT take 20+ years to set this fact in granite.

Go away little man

19 posted on 11/16/2007 5:29:40 PM PST by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: ECM
Sen. Reid Will Keep Senate Working to Block Bush Undermine America
20 posted on 11/16/2007 5:43:25 PM PST by manic4organic (Send a care package through USO today.)
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To: Trajan88

Harry Reid won’t amount to a polyp on the colon of history.


21 posted on 11/16/2007 5:44:45 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Billybob is the man!


22 posted on 11/16/2007 6:32:03 PM PST by dusttoyou (FredHead from the git go)
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To: ECM

Senator Reid will keep shooting himself in the foot


23 posted on 11/16/2007 6:51:34 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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To: PROCON

Just think of what would be different this year if we didn’t have a congress or senate? Nothing!!


24 posted on 11/16/2007 7:10:42 PM PST by baiamonte
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To: PROCON

WORK and ELECTED OFFICALS don’t belong in the same world.


25 posted on 11/16/2007 7:16:42 PM PST by chiefqc
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To: ECM
Image hosted by Photobucket.com separated at birth???

26 posted on 11/16/2007 7:17:37 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
Image hosted by Photobucket.com tooo damn funny...
27 posted on 11/16/2007 7:18:18 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Found this in the Wash Compost:

“Under law, a president can use a recess appointment if the Senate is adjourned more than three days without reconvening on the fourth day. The interim appointments last through the current and next sessions of Congress.

“Congressional rules allow for the Senate to be adjourned for three full days without being considered in recess. Bush cannot use the interim appointments as long as the chamber is opened every fourth day. Reid set a schedule of pro forma sessions on Tuesday and Friday next week, and then on Nov. 27 and Nov. 29.

“The Senate returns Dec. 3 for full legislative sessions and is expected to adjourn a few days before Christmas until mid-January. But Reid is threatening to hold pro forma sessions throughout the holiday season, if necessary, to block recess appointments.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/16/AR2007111601569.html?nav=hcmodule


28 posted on 11/16/2007 7:33:04 PM PST by casino66 ( If I vote Dem I'll get everything 'free')
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To: casino66

The Republicans can still call Reid’s bluff, if they have the will and give up their own vacations, which they won’t, sadly.

All they have to do is request a quorum call at each pro-forma session. Within that session, they can start unlimited debate (filibuster) which can only be stopped by a cloture vote, requiring at least 60 of them to come back and vote cloture.

Spineless Republicans won’t do it however, so Dingy will get his way.

The good news is, we won’t get any Julie Myers types being appointed during the recess.


29 posted on 11/16/2007 9:51:07 PM PST by oldbill
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To: ECM

If the Senate will be open through the Thanksgiving break, what’s to prevent the Republicans from showing up and voting on several important issues?


30 posted on 11/17/2007 6:50:29 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Planting trees to offset carbon emissions is like drinking water to offset rising ocean levels)
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To: Congressman Billybob
"If no quorum shows up, then the Senate MUST adjourn"

I should have asked you this question: Can the Republicans show up with enough members for a quorum, and pass important legislation?

31 posted on 11/17/2007 6:54:30 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Planting trees to offset carbon emissions is like drinking water to offset rising ocean levels)
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To: ECM

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid

No loyalty to America.


32 posted on 11/17/2007 6:55:16 AM PST by Son House ($$Proud Member of Vast Right Wing, Out To Lower Your Tax Rates For More Opportunities.$$)
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To: ECM

And the national rating for Congress dips once again to a new low.


33 posted on 11/17/2007 7:01:49 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Congressman Billybob
I don’t know the senate rules but I was just thinking that this might be the way it would be. If there aren’t enough senators there for a quorum, no vote can be taken. Eat dirt, Dingy Harry!
34 posted on 11/17/2007 7:04:59 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Congressman Billybob

In your scenario, Reid would then go to the bloggers and say, “I tried, but Bush trampled the Constitution and illegally made recess appointment!”...and the bloggers would swallow it, hook, line and sinker.

As usual, Reid doesn’t care what happens - only how it is perceived.


35 posted on 11/17/2007 7:24:48 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Mitt is a political Kama Sutra)
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To: oldbill

Sorry, but I fail to see what would be accomplished?


36 posted on 11/17/2007 10:10:18 AM PST by casino66 ( If I vote Dem I'll get everything 'free')
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To: norwaypinesavage

There would not be enough present to do any business. Must have a quorum, which they wouldn’t.


37 posted on 11/17/2007 10:12:48 AM PST by casino66 ( If I vote Dem I'll get everything 'free')
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To: BARLF

Good than there’s still a chance Dusty Harry will choke on a turkey bone.


38 posted on 11/17/2007 10:15:50 AM PST by mimaw
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To: casino66
"Must have a quorum."

A quorum is 51. Presumably some democRats would have to remain around to meet Reid's requirement that the Senate cannot be closed over the holidays. If all the democRats left, no one would be around to make a Quorum Call, anyway.

39 posted on 11/17/2007 10:49:28 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Planting trees to offset carbon emissions is like drinking water to offset rising ocean levels)
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To: casino66

It would ruin their vacations, and make them a litle more reluctant to play such games in the future.

Remember, this will happen again in December, and I don’t think Harry and his boys will like their vacations ruined by having to come back from Walla Walla every four days.


40 posted on 11/17/2007 1:33:56 PM PST by oldbill
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To: Congressman Billybob
1. A quorum shall consist of a majority of the Senators duly chosen and sworn.
2. No Senator shall absent himself from the service of the Senate without leave.
3. If, at any time during the daily sessions of the Senate, a question shall be raised by any Senator as to the presence of a quorum, the Presiding Officer shall forthwith direct the Secretary to call the roll and shall announce the result, and these proceedings shall be without debate.
4. Whenever upon such roll call it shall be ascertained that a quorum is not present, a majority of the Senators present may direct the Sergeant at Arms to request, and, when necessary, to compel the attendance of the absent Senators, which order shall be determined without debate; and pending its execution, and until a quorum shall be present, no debate nor motion, except to adjourn, or to recess pursuant to a previous order entered by unanimous consent, shall be in order.

41 posted on 11/17/2007 2:55:39 PM PST by Loud Mime (The Democrats made people believe that govt. lawyers are victims, whatta country!)
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To: Mr Rogers; goldstategop; Eddie01; Congressman Billybob; PROCON; Sacajaweau; Domandred; Popman; ...

According to Randi Rhodes on Air America yesterday, they want to stop the appointment of Dr. James W. Holsinger as Surgeon General.

The gay groups are screaming that he's a homophobe and should not be in office.

The gays don't want him. So the Democrats will obey their "masters."

42 posted on 11/17/2007 3:09:21 PM PST by Loud Mime (The Democrats made people believe that govt. lawyers are victims, whatta country!)
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To: ECM

Hey Dirtbag, how did that Surrender bill go??

Pray for W and Our Victorious Troops


43 posted on 11/17/2007 3:13:37 PM PST by bray (Think "Betray U.S." Think Democrat)
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To: Loud Mime

“pro forma session - A brief meeting (sometimes only several seconds) of the Senate in which no business is conducted. It is held usually to satisfy the constitutional obligation that neither chamber can adjourn for more than three days without the consent of the other.”

http://www.senate.gov/reference/glossary_term/pro_forma_session.htm


44 posted on 11/17/2007 3:16:44 PM PST by bbruit
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To: bbruit
Yeah.....usually....
45 posted on 11/17/2007 5:25:12 PM PST by Loud Mime (The Democrats made people believe that govt. lawyers are victims, whatta country!)
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To: ECM

I recall on Inauguration Day, Bush made a speech with all the Senators and Reps present, and began the speech, “Distinguished members of Congress....and some not-so-distinguished members...”


46 posted on 11/18/2007 8:25:37 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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To: ECM

According to an article on yahoo Congress is in recess. Its an article about the democrats refusing to fund the war unless the money is tied to a timeline for troop withdrawal.It says Gates may furlough government workers so the Pentagon can fund the troops.


47 posted on 11/19/2007 6:46:38 PM PST by linn37 (phlebotomist on duty,its just a little pinch)
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To: Congressman Billybob

What does the Senate rule mean when it says that in the absence of a quorum they can consider a motion to adjourn or recess “pursuant to a previous order entered by unanimous consent”.


48 posted on 11/21/2007 2:04:54 PM PST by Busywhiskers (Strength and Honor)
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