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UN panel gives dire warming forecast (Slap on the Barf Bag once again for GW,, The IPCC)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 11/17/07 | Arthur Max - ap

Posted on 11/17/2007 6:31:13 PM PST by NormsRevenge

VALENCIA, Spain - Global warming is "unequivocal" and carbon dioxide already in the atmosphere commits the world to an average rise in sea levels of up to 4.6 feet, the world's top climate experts warned Saturday in their most authoritative report to date.

"Only urgent, global action will do," said U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, calling on the United States and China — the world's two biggest polluters — to do more to slow global climate change.

"I look forward to seeing the U.S. and China playing a more constructive role," Ban told reporters. "Both countries can lead in their own way."

Ban, however, advised against assigning blame.

Climate change imperils "the most precious treasures of our planet," he said, and the effects are "so severe and so sweeping that only urgent global action will do. We are all in this together. We must work together."

According to the U.N. panel of scientists, whose latest report is a synthesis of three previous ones, enough carbon dioxide already has built up that it imperils islands, coastlines and a fifth to two-thirds of the world's species.

As early as 2020, 75 million to 250 million people in Africa will suffer water shortages, residents of Asia's large cities will be at great risk of river and coastal flooding, according to the report.

Europeans can expect extensive species loss, and North Americans will experience longer and hotter heat waves and greater competition for water, says the report from the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which shared the Nobel Prize with Al Gore this year.

The panel portrays the Earth hurtling toward a warmer climate at a quickening pace and warns of inevitable human suffering. It says emissions of carbon, mainly from fossil fuels, must stabilize by 2015 and go down after that.

In the best-case scenario, temperatures will keep rising from carbon already in the atmosphere, the report said. Even if factories were shut down today and cars taken off the roads, the average sea level will reach as high as 4.6 feet above that in the preindustrial period, or about 1850.

"We have already committed the world to sea level rise," the panel's chairman, Rajendra Pachauri, said. But if the Greenland ice sheet melts, the scientists said, they could not predict by how many feet the seas will rise, drowning coastal cities.

Climate change is here, they said, as witnessed by melting snow and glaciers, higher average temperatures and rising sea levels. If unchecked, global warming will spread hunger and disease, put further stress on water resources, cause fiercer storms and more frequent droughts, and could drive up to 70 percent of plant and animal species to extinction, according to the panel's report.

The report was adopted after five days of sometimes tense negotiations among 140 national delegations. It lays out blueprints for avoiding the worst catastrophes — and various possible outcomes, depending on how quickly and decisively action is taken.

"The world's scientists have spoken clearly and with one voice," Ban said, looking ahead to an important climate conference in Bali, Indonesia, next month. "I expect the world's policy makers to do the same."

The report is intended to both set the stage and serve as a guide for the conference, at which world leaders will begin discussing a global climate change treaty to replace the 1997 Kyoto Protocol.

That treaty, which expires in 2012, required industrial nations to reduce greenhouse gases and a smooth transition to a new treaty is needed to avoid upsetting the fledgling carbon markets.

"This report will have an incredible political impact," Yvo de Boer, the U.N.'s top climate change official, told The Associated Press. "It's a signal that politicians cannot afford to ignore."

The United States opted out of Kyoto in 2001, arguing that the science was unproven and that the burden of mandatory emission cuts was unfair since it excluded fast-growing China and India.

Chief U.S. delegate Sharon Hays said doubts have been dispelled. "What's changed since 2001 is the scientific certainty that this is happening," she said in a conference call late Friday. She did not indicate that Washington would abandon its policy of voluntary emission cuts.

China and India have said any measures impinging on their development and efforts to lift their people from poverty were unacceptable — a point likely to be heeded at the Bali talks.

The report offered dozens of measures for avoiding the worst catastrophes if taken together — at a cost of less than 0.12 percent of the global economy annually until 2050. They ranged from switching to nuclear and gas-fired power stations, developing hybrid cars, using more efficient electrical appliances and managing cropland to store more carbon.

Ban said a new agreement should provide funding to help poor countries develop clean energy resources, adapt to climate conditions and give them the technology to help themselves.

He said he witnessed the devastation of climate change in disappearing glaciers of Antarctica, the deforested Amazon and under the ozone hole in Chile.

"These scenes are as frightening as a science fiction movie," said Ban. "But they are even more terrifying because they are real."


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KEYWORDS: boondoggle; forecast; globalwarming; ipc; warming

1 posted on 11/17/2007 6:31:15 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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In this photo supplied by Greenpeace, Greenpeace activists on a rubber boat buzz the 'Front Driver', cargo ship, some 15 miles off the coast of Valencia on the closing day of the 27th Plenary of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change in Valencia, Saturday Nov. 17, 2007. Greenpeace claims the ship is carrying 153,000 tonnes of coal destined for the Spanish port of Tarragona. Greenpeace banner reads 'burning coal destroys the climate'. (AP Photo/Greenpeace, Pedro Armestre)


2 posted on 11/17/2007 6:32:21 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: NormsRevenge

It’s China’s fault.


3 posted on 11/17/2007 6:33:44 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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I wonder if we paid off all the GW hucksters. if they would just rein it in a bit? Man, have some folks gone bonkers of late.


4 posted on 11/17/2007 6:33:45 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: NormsRevenge

5 posted on 11/17/2007 6:35:18 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat
I'll BumP that. ;-)

Representative Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) gestures at a "Presidential Forum on Global Warming and America's Energy Future," in Los Angeles November 17, 2007. REUTERS/Lucy Nicholson (UNITED STATES)

6 posted on 11/17/2007 6:39:12 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: NormsRevenge

I think the pimple is aboot to pop,they can’t keep this up forever withoot sayin “dudes,we are so liars....what else we got on the agenda instead?”


7 posted on 11/17/2007 6:39:47 PM PST by Minnesoootan
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Oh Bill, Honey! Just move a little closer, so I can nail ya with this cup!

Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) gestures at a "Presidential Forum on Global Warming and America's Energy Future," in Los Angeles November 17, 2007. REUTERS/Lucy Nicholson (UNITED STATES)

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Modern day con men , the whole damn lot of them and their bought off politcos.

8 posted on 11/17/2007 6:40:55 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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Oh Please, Lord, send the greens my way.

Democratic presidential candidate, former Sen. John Edwards, D-N.C., participate in a 'Presidential Forum on
Global Warming and America's Energy Future,' in Los Angeles Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007. (AP Photo/Reed Saxon)

9 posted on 11/17/2007 6:42:51 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: NormsRevenge

Future historians will refer to this time as “The EcoInsaniPillagous Era”


10 posted on 11/17/2007 6:43:16 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I swear....2007 will go down as GLOBAL WARMING YEAR.....I’m hoping they’ll burn out by Dec. 31st.....


11 posted on 11/17/2007 6:43:58 PM PST by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character! Being Coddled Destroys Character!)
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To: NormsRevenge; Eric Blair 2084; Reform Canada
Scientists, these seemingly disparate incidents represent the advance signs of fundamental changes in the world’s weather. The central fact is that after three quarters of a century of extraordinarily mild conditions, the earth’s climate seems to be cooling down. Meteorologists disagree about the cause and extent of the cooling trend, as well as over its specific impact on local weather conditions. But they are almost unanimous in the view that the trend will reduce agricultural productivity for the rest of the century. – The Cooling World Newsweek, April 28, 1975

The battle to feed humanity is over. In the 1970s, the world will undergo famines. Hundreds of millions of people are going to starve to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now. -- Paul Ehrlich - The Population Bomb (1968)

In ten years all important animal life in the sea will be extinct. Large areas of coastline will have to be evacuated because of the stench of dead fish. -- Paul Ehrlich, Earth Day (1970)

This cooling has already killed hundreds of thousands of people. If it continues and no strong action is taken, it will cause world famine, world chaos and world war, and this could all come about before the year 2000. -- Lowell Ponte "The Cooling", 1976

"There is very important climatic change (Global Cooling) going on right now, and it’s not merely something of academic interest. It is something that, if it continues, will affect the whole human occupation of the earth – like a billion people starving. The effects are already showing up in a rather drastic way.” - American Institute of Physics February 1974

"Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind. We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation," - Barry Commoner Washington University Earth Day 1970

NOAA announced its predictions for the 2006 hurricane season, saying it expects an "above normal" year with 13-16 named storms. Of these storms, the agency says it expects four to be hurricanes of category 3 or above, double the yearly average of prior seasons in recorded history. With experts calling the coming hurricane season potentially worse than last year's, oil prices have jumped 70 cents per barrel in New York and made similar leaps elsewhere. Economists anticipate that demand for oil will rise sharply over the summer, when as many as four major hurricanes could hit the United States. -- Seed Magazine 5/19/06

But this time they are surely correct? Yeah, sure

Ever since man 1st walked out onto the Savannah there has been people preaching of the coming doomsday and promising salvation from the whatever coming apocalypse if you would only just turn more control and more money over to them, and every single time without exception they've been wrong. The modern day global warming movement is no different.

12 posted on 11/17/2007 6:44:52 PM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: NormsRevenge
How about "Burning Greenpeace saves the planet?" works for me!

vaudine

13 posted on 11/17/2007 6:45:56 PM PST by vaudine (RO)
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To: goodnesswins

I can not believe how much advertising is pumping the grand scheme of our time... some folks have gone over the edge.. it is baffling that supposedly intelligent well educated folks can be so gullible.. unless they’re in on it for the booty.. ;-)


14 posted on 11/17/2007 6:49:18 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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make that loot, not booty.. ;-)

this era certainly rivals the days of “FRee sex” and its movement.. and there I was, underage.. like that matters these days.. unfortunately


15 posted on 11/17/2007 6:51:46 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) speaks at a "Presidential Forum on Global Warming and America's Energy Future," in Los Angeles November 17, 2007. REUTERS/Lucy Nicholson (UNITED STATES)


16 posted on 11/17/2007 6:53:13 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: NormsRevenge
"China and India have said any measures impinging on their development and efforts to lift their people from poverty were unacceptable - ..."

This means we are off the hook!  The RATs are telling us that there are two Americas; the poor and the rich.  So we have to take care of the ones in poverty first, and we need some more technological development, too.  Until then the UN (Useless Nations) can BS some more with AlGore about the men made climate change.

 

17 posted on 11/17/2007 6:54:24 PM PST by OneHun
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To: NormsRevenge
Thank you Norm for the Barf Alert!! That one was hard to read with all the crazy end-of-world predictions. As more and more SCIENTIFIC information comes out that global warming, especially man-made global warming, is a HOAX, the more shrill the alarmists become. The claims of global destruction from "global warming" are becoming so wild, that even usually liberal college news papers are beginning to say "wait a minute" (see Newsbusters - Another College Paper Shocker: Global Warming is Killing Us…Not!).

I just posted the below thread. I urge all who want a dose of reality read it and view the linked videos.

Global Warming Tutorial Media Should be Required to Watch

18 posted on 11/17/2007 6:55:01 PM PST by CedarDave (Hillary's questions are different, the answer is always the same: "If it wasn't for George Bush ...")
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To: NormsRevenge

Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) speaks at a "Presidential Forum on Global Warming and America's Energy Future," in Los Angeles November 17, 2007.

Scary picture. I can just see her mouthing the words: "We are going to take things from you for the common good."

19 posted on 11/17/2007 6:59:02 PM PST by CedarDave (Hillary's questions are different, the answer is always the same: "If it wasn't for George Bush ...")
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Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) Rajendra Pachauri (L) and United Nations (UN) Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon hold the IPCC report on global warming. The Nobel-winning IPCC group of climate scientists issued their starkest warning yet on global warming, prompting a UN demand for politicians to smash the deadlock on tackling the worsening threat.(AFP/Diego Tuson)


20 posted on 11/17/2007 7:06:39 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: CedarDave
You think that Hil pic was scary..

In this photo provided by FAO Schwarz, supermodel Frederique van der Wal and her daughter Scyler, 7, listen to a 'green' Santa as he reads from the new eco-friendly holiday book 'When Santa Turned Green,' Friday, Nov. 16, 2007, at FAO Schwarz in New York. The book, written by Victoria Perla, inspires children to come together to help Santa solve global warming. (AP Photo/FAO Schwarz, Diane Bondareff)


21 posted on 11/17/2007 7:09:44 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: NormsRevenge
Its surreal to witness such scientific malpractice and incompetence in this so called "advanced age". And the people are as ignorant and gullible as ever

What really gets me is the number of "highly" educated people that actually believe the dishonest arguments made by these fanatical alarmists.Just goes to show you any dunce can be highly educated in todays great University system.

22 posted on 11/17/2007 7:12:00 PM PST by Archon of the East (Universal Executive Power of the Law of Nature)
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To: NormsRevenge

They even look like the trolls they are.


23 posted on 11/17/2007 7:12:54 PM PST by Archon of the East (Universal Executive Power of the Law of Nature)
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To: NormsRevenge

And it’s no longer politically correct for Santa to go “Ho, Ho, Ho!”


24 posted on 11/17/2007 7:18:49 PM PST by CedarDave (Hillary's questions are different, the answer is always the same: "If it wasn't for George Bush ...")
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To: CedarDave

What an age we live in, huh? can ya believe that crap? even santa is fair game for some whackjobs..


25 posted on 11/17/2007 7:29:53 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: NormsRevenge

I wonder if these guys have seen the latest report from NASA scientists.


26 posted on 11/17/2007 7:32:37 PM PST by Retired Chemist
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To: NormsRevenge
Chief U.S. delegate Sharon Hays said doubts have been dispelled. "What's changed since 2001 is the scientific certainty that this is happening,"

Fire her right now, get her on a plane and get her the heck out.

27 posted on 11/17/2007 7:41:33 PM PST by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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To: NormsRevenge
We need to find Dennis Kucinich’s UFOs and get the heck out of here. This is getting too series.
28 posted on 11/17/2007 7:44:29 PM PST by avacado
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To: Trteamer

What is Sharon Hays’ background, and when did she begin getting money for her opinions?


29 posted on 11/17/2007 7:47:04 PM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: NormsRevenge
"Only urgent, global action will do," said U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon,

Obviously, it's "Algore to the reskew!"

30 posted on 11/17/2007 7:48:40 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard
Yup, Al and his buddies..

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31 posted on 11/17/2007 7:52:11 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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Al's seen a water level or two rise in his time. yup..


32 posted on 11/17/2007 7:53:25 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: qam1
Those qoutes are quite interesting, but did you notice that in the earlier predictions noone even thought to blame humans for the change. Here's another gem from the article:

"a new treaty is needed to avoid upsetting the fledgling carbon markets."

It's all about $ folks. The biggest fraud in human history.

33 posted on 11/17/2007 7:56:58 PM PST by boop (Who doesn't love poison pot pies?)
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To: qam1
The CO2 Emperor Has No Clothes

Congress and others are either ignorant or ignoring the science regarding CO2. Both are attempting to restrict CO2 emissions under the mistaken belief that these drive temperature changes around the globe. This theory has been proven false (see references below). Your tax dollars are being used to enact energy rationing schemes in an attempt to roll back the industrial revolution. The CO2 emperor (Al Gore) has no clothes and it's well past time for adults in leadership positions who can still think critically to recognize this. If this insanity continues, our society and others will devolve into a twisted "Mad Max" form of survival as we battle over the lack of ACCESS to energy (which is abundant around the globe in the form of natural resources). Our children will never forgive us.

CO2 Lags Temperature Change

  1. "Gore says that in each of the last four interglacial warm periods it was changes in carbon dioxide concentration that caused changes in temperature. It was the other way about. Changes in temperature preceded changes in CO2 concentration by between 800 and 2800 years, as scientific papers including the paper on which Gore’s film had relied had made clear." (Monckton, 2007)
     
  2. "There is no proof at all that the current warming is caused by the rise of greenhouse gases from human activities. Observations in ice cores show that temperature increases have preceded - not resulted from - increases in CO2, by hundreds of years, suggesting that the warming of the oceans is an important source of the rise in atmospheric CO2. As the dominant greenhouse gas, water vapor is far more important than CO2, yet not well handled by climate models - and, in any case, not within our control. Greenhouse models cannot account for the observed cooling of much of the last century (1940-75), nor for the observed patterns of warming - what we call the “fingerprints.” For example, the Antarctic is cooling while models predict warming. And where the models call for the middle atmosphere to warm faster than the surface, the observations show the exact opposite." (Singer, 2007)
     
  3. "The Great Global Warming Swindle" documentary aired March 2007 in England and July 2007 in Australia. It reveals the fraudulent science at the root of the man-made climate change hysteria that many are supporting. An interview with the producer of this documentary is quite revealing as to the attitudes of the global warming supporters (Durkin, 2007). The DVD may be purchased at http://store.demanddebate.com/great-global-warming-swindle-dvd.html

19,000 Scientists Refute Any Link Between CO2 and Harmful Global Warming

"We urge the United States government to reject the global warming agreement that was written in Kyoto, Japan in December, 1997, and any other similar proposals. The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment, hinder the advance of science and technology, and damage the health and welfare of mankind. There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth." (The Petition Project, 1997)

References:

  1. Durkin, M. (2007, July 21). Up against the warming zealots. The Australian. Retrieved July 7, 2007 from http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22105154-30417,00.html
  2. Monckton, C. (2007, October 19). 35 Inconvenient Truths: The errors in Al Gore’s movie. Retrieved October 22, 2007 from the Science and Public Policy Institute web site: http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/monckton/goreerrors.html
                See 'Error 4: CO2 driving temperature' in this paper. Christopher Walter, Third Viscount Monckton of Brenchley, was a former policy advisor to Margaret Thatcher during her years as Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.
  3. Singer, F. (2007, March 22). British television’s convenient truth. The Examiner. Retrieved April 20, 2007 from http://www.examiner.com/printa-632719~British_television’s_convenient_truth.html
                S. Fred Singer is professor emeritus of environmental sciences at the University of Virginia and a research fellow at the Independent Institute in Oakland. He served as the founding director of the U.S. Weather Satellite Service and was vice chairman of the U.S. National Advisory Committee on Oceans and Atmosphere. He is the author of Hot Talk, Cold Science, and Unstoppable Global Warming: Every 1500 Years.
  4. The Petition Project. (1997). Retrieved November 14, 2007 from http://www.oism.org/pproject/
        Funded entirely by private donations and organized by the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine, the Petition Project has collected over 19,000 verified signatures from American scientists. This group includes physicists, geophysicists, climatologists, meteorologists, oceanographers and environmental scientists. Those with a degree in the physical sciences may sign the petition (as I did in 1998)

Highly Recommended Daily Read

The Greenie Watch collects articles on environmental and science topics from around the world that never see the light of day in the U.S. same-stream media.

34 posted on 11/17/2007 8:10:10 PM PST by enviros_kill
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To: Beowulf

~~ AGW™ ping~~


35 posted on 11/18/2007 6:04:13 AM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: NormsRevenge

Let me translate:

“We must seize as much power from the wealthy countries as possible BEFORE it becomes obvious to all that there is no global warming!”

So now we have a catastrophic problem that must be fixed in 8 years or we are all doomed.

At 50, I find these hucksters annoying. Unfortunately, they scare a lot of children.


36 posted on 11/18/2007 6:41:07 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Mitt is a political Kama Sutra)
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To: enviros_kill
I address your two points in points #5 and #6 in my profile. It also addresses incorrect aspects of "The Great Global Warming Swindle".

The theory of anthropogenic global warming has not been proven false. And its interesting to encounter someone who admits to signing the OISM petition.

37 posted on 11/19/2007 8:55:58 AM PST by cogitator
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