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How to Beat Hillary (Next) November
Newsweek ^ | Nov 26, 2007 Issue | Karl Rove

Posted on 11/17/2007 8:31:45 PM PST by Baladas

I've seen up close the two Clintons America knows. He's a big smile, hand locked on your arm and lots of charms. "Hey, come down and speak at my library. I'd like to talk some politics with you."

And her? She tends to be, well, hard and brittle. I inherited her West Wing office. Shortly after the 2001 Inauguration, I made a little talk saying I appreciated having the office because it had the only full-length vanity mirror in the West Wing, which gave me a chance to improve my rumpled appearance. The senator from New York confronted me shortly after and pointedly said she hadn't put the mirror there. I hadn't said she did, just that the mirror was there. So a few weeks later, in another talk, I repeated the story about the mirror. And shortly thereafter, the junior senator saw me and, again, without a hint of humor or light in her voice, icily said she'd heard I'd repeated the story of the mirror and she … did … not … put … that mirror in the office.

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Well, she sounds like a barrel of fun now, doesn't she?

This is the controversial new Rovian column - any campaign advice from him should be considered.

1 posted on 11/17/2007 8:31:46 PM PST by Baladas
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To: Baladas

Mirror, mirror on the wall...


2 posted on 11/17/2007 8:34:18 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: Baladas

I’d love to have a ten spot for every person that she’s threatened or intimidated. I’d be on easy street. Please tell me that the American people will see through her facade before November 2008.


3 posted on 11/17/2007 8:36:31 PM PST by originalbuckeye (I want a hero....I'm holding out for a hero (politically))
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To: Baladas

She’s making a list, she’s checking it twice, gonna find out who’s going to the gulag tonight - Hillary the Nazi Ice Queen is coming to town...


4 posted on 11/17/2007 8:36:44 PM PST by an amused spectator (AGW: If you drag a hundred dollar bill through a research lab, you never know what you'll find)
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To: Baladas
I wouldn’t have a mirror in my office either, if I was a nasty old dried up Harridan.
5 posted on 11/17/2007 8:36:55 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: Jim Robinson

If Hillary is beat ... Algore’s constant cries and court cases over the ‘stolen election’ will be a but a small ripple compared to the tidal wave this she beast will unleash.


6 posted on 11/17/2007 8:38:49 PM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: Baladas

Of course She Who Must Not Be Named didn’t have a mirror - She cast no reflection, so why would She have one?


7 posted on 11/17/2007 8:40:27 PM PST by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: Jim Robinson

8 posted on 11/17/2007 8:40:44 PM PST by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: Baladas
"Say in authentic terms what you believe. The GOP nominee must highlight his core convictions to help people understand who he is and to set up a natural contrast with Clinton, both on style and substance."

First, you have to actually have core convictions that naturally contrast with Hillary. Being pro-life, pro-family, pro-Constitution, pro-gun, etc, would go far.

9 posted on 11/17/2007 8:40:46 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: Baladas

10 posted on 11/17/2007 8:42:28 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Hillary probably said she did not put THAT mirror in the office, since she cracked every other one that was EVER there before.

No mirror known to man could contain that image and still exist.

11 posted on 11/17/2007 8:44:57 PM PST by tenthirteen
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To: Baladas
How to beat Hillary
12 posted on 11/17/2007 8:47:48 PM PST by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: Baladas

Uhhh...with a baseball bat?


13 posted on 11/17/2007 8:49:10 PM PST by Sudetenland (Liberals love "McCarthyism," they just believe he was targeting the wrong side.)
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To: Baladas
...icily said she'd heard I'd repeated the story of the mirror and she … did … not … put … that mirror in the office.

CAW CAW CAW!!!

14 posted on 11/17/2007 8:51:14 PM PST by FrdmLvr
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To: Baladas
This is the controversial new Rovian column - any campaign advice from him should be considered.

I dunno... the same guy who almost lost in 2000; came up with "compassionate conservatism"; almost lost in 2004; lost the Congress in 2006; and operates on that old maxim, "Of course they'll vote Republican, where ELSE are they going to go?"

15 posted on 11/17/2007 8:56:02 PM PST by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: Baladas
She probably did not put the mirror in her office, she just ordered some flunky to do it.
It might even have been her secret service protection as she treated them like her flunkies.
16 posted on 11/17/2007 8:56:33 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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To: Baladas
Nice column, but it’s amazing that Rove fails to recognize the most important issue for winning in ‘08, and the one that Her Thighness has no clue: SECURING OUR BORDERS AND ENFORCING OUR IMMIGRATION LAWS!!!!
17 posted on 11/17/2007 8:57:59 PM PST by Xeroes80 ("An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools."- EH)
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To: Baladas

In reality, she’s eminently beatable. Her contentious history evokes unpleasant memories. She lacks her husband’s political gifts and rejects much of the centrism he championed. The health-care fiasco showed her style and ideology. All of which helps explain why, for a front runner in an open race for the presidency, she has the highest negatives in history.

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hopeful words from rove.


18 posted on 11/17/2007 8:59:59 PM PST by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: Baladas

I’ve got an issue to beat Hillary Clinton with.

Hillary Clinton is strongly concerned about global warming but opposes putting nuclear waste in Yucca Mountain in Nevada. Therefore, one of the following must be true:

1. She doesn’t really believe global warming is a threat and she’s just using it for a campaign issue.

2. She does think global warming is a threat, but thinks Nevada’s three electoral votes are more important that this serious threat to the planet.

3. She thinks we can somehow cut down on CO2 emissions by a significant amount without using nuclear power. That proposition is absurd.

4. She thinks the nuclear waste should go someplace else, even though Yucca Mountain was chosen after a multiyear study and it would probably take decades to find another place.

I wish Hillary would explain which of these four is correct. My guess is option #2. Not one of these four options would reflect well on her. I wish the Republicans would press the point.


19 posted on 11/17/2007 9:02:29 PM PST by Our man in washington
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To: Baladas

Hillary is about the past. She is not about the future. The Republican nominee needs to drive this point home to the masses. She has lead nothing. The people of the USA are looking for a leader.


20 posted on 11/17/2007 9:04:24 PM PST by Balata
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To: Baladas
Oh yeah, I'm sure that mirror wasn't hers.

A friend of mine who was the only Republican in a family of heavy-hitter Democratic fundraisers (they were all lawyers except him) was invited to dinner at the White House during the '90s. He told me that at one point, an aide offered him a private tour.

When they were in Hillary's office after hours, the aide was paged to an urgent call and left for a couple of minutes. He said he suddenly realized he was all alone in Hillary Clinton's office! So he decided to look around. He noticed a little room off to the side. There was a huge picture of Hillary on the middle of the far wall, and it was surrounded by dozens of other photos. He assumed it was just photos of Hillary with celebrities and world leaders, as many prominent people might have. Then he realized that, no, they were all pictures of Hillary alone. He said he began laughing in astonishment as he realized that he was standing in a shrine...Hillary's shrine to herself!

No, I will not tell you his name, for his own protection. But I swear, he is the real deal. I know his wealthy family, and he's my longtime financial advisor.

21 posted on 11/17/2007 9:09:20 PM PST by HHFi
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To: Baladas
How to Beat Hillary (Next) November

I say, why wait til next year? Let's beat her now!

22 posted on 11/17/2007 9:20:21 PM PST by FDNYRHEROES (Always bring a liberal to a gunfight)
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To: Baladas

Hey thanks for this post!

I don’t normally check out Newsweak.

But the comments at the end of the column by the left wing loonies are telling...


23 posted on 11/17/2007 9:20:52 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (To those who believe the world was safer with Saddam, get treatment for that!)
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To: ari-freedom

What a perfect analogy!!


24 posted on 11/17/2007 9:21:55 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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To: Baladas
We beat her by promoting conservative principles, such as limited government, lower taxes, national security, border control, and sanctity of life and marriage. This leaves RINO’s such as Mayor Giuliani and Open Border sellouts like McCain out to pasture.
25 posted on 11/17/2007 9:22:28 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: HHFi

Doesn’t surprise me.....she’s quite the narcissist.


26 posted on 11/17/2007 9:23:28 PM PST by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character! Being Coddled Destroys Character!)
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To: originalbuckeye

“Please tell me that the American people will see through her facade before November 2008.”

IMO, the big mistake Her Thighness made was starting her campaign way too early. 18 months of Hitlery? Who will like her after seeing that much of her?

Voting booth? I need the crapper, I’m going to upChuck!!


27 posted on 11/17/2007 9:23:58 PM PST by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: Baladas

How to beat hillary? LOL - win more votes in the Electorial College than she does.


28 posted on 11/17/2007 9:25:27 PM PST by tioga (Snow Flurries in New York.)
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To: All

Reading the comments on the Newsweek article is truly enlightening about the Liberal mind. Scary.


29 posted on 11/17/2007 9:27:50 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE)
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To: Our man in washington

Actually, Hillary can be beaten by speaking Female as it were.

Rove was genius at taking an opponent’s strength and making it a weakness, to beat Hillary, pound her on things like lack of action on “Equal Pay” that she never moved for in the Senate, stuff like that.

The Dhimmis are planning on the male vote being split on Iraq, and the Female vote going to Hillary along with new single female voters registering and Voting Hilde, why not give them reasons not to vote for Hillary?


30 posted on 11/17/2007 9:28:04 PM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3)
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To: HHFi

“There was a huge picture of Hillary on the middle of the far wall, and it was surrounded by dozens of other photos. He assumed it was just photos of Hillary with celebrities and world leaders, as many prominent people might have. Then he realized that, no, they were all pictures of Hillary alone. He said he began laughing in astonishment as he realized that he was standing in a shrine...Hillary’s shrine to herself!”

That is really creepy.


31 posted on 11/17/2007 9:30:29 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Wait a minute. Isn’t thay what Kerry had in his office during the last Presidential run? IIRC it was a shrine to himself.


32 posted on 11/17/2007 9:35:07 PM PST by Balata
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To: padre35
The Dhimmis are planning on the male vote being split on Iraq, and the Female vote going to Hillary along with new single female voters registering and Voting Hilde, why not give them reasons not to vote for Hillary?,

I heard a pollster on Neal Boortz last night say Hillary has the independent women locked up in the states where the GOP needs them, and she will win easily against any of the current crop.

33 posted on 11/17/2007 9:35:20 PM PST by lawnguy (The wand chooses the wizard, Mr. Potter.)
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To: Baladas
Thanks for posting this.

I agree, Rove's advice should be definitely considered and taken seriously.

I think the most important point is not to underestimate her.

"It is a small but telling story: she is tough, persistent and forgets nothing. Those are some of the reasons she is so formidable as a contender, and why Republicans who think she would be easy to beat are wrong. "

Add to that the vast Clinton machine that has been built up in the last 15 years.

She is beatable, but not easily. The ultimate Republican nominee needs to understand that. Rove gives a lot of good, specific advice.

34 posted on 11/17/2007 9:39:09 PM PST by FocusNexus
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To: lawnguy

“I heard a pollster on Neal Boortz last night say Hillary has the independent women locked up in the states where the GOP needs them, and she will win easily against any of the current crop.”

That would seem to be an area that needs to be addressed, if “we” just sit back and allow Hillary to easily when that demographic we will need a near record turnout of base vote to make up for it, and the base isn’t thrilled with “our” guys.

To me, the base is our first problem, that needs to be addressed first, then move on to the independents.

That and it’s a year out, Boortz’s crystal ball is just as murky as anyone else’s.


35 posted on 11/17/2007 9:40:51 PM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3)
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To: Baladas
How to beat Hillary? Image and video hosting by TinyPic
36 posted on 11/17/2007 9:42:34 PM PST by ansel12 (Proud father of a 10th Mountain veteran. Proud son of a WWII vet. Proud brother of vets, Airborne)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

psychopath...


37 posted on 11/17/2007 9:46:26 PM PST by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: Baladas

“any campaign advice from him should be considered.”

Like this piece? “Aggressively campaign for the votes of America’s minorities.” Rove’s an idiot and that’s being kind.


38 posted on 11/17/2007 9:56:35 PM PST by jwh_Denver (Eat at Joe's, lose it on a bungee jump.)
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To: Jim Robinson

The Wicked Queen and the Seven Dwarves

39 posted on 11/17/2007 10:00:51 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: South40

Duncan Hunter can’t beat the margin of error much less Hillary.


40 posted on 11/17/2007 10:03:45 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (John Cox 2008: Because Duncan Hunter just isn't obscure enough for me!)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

What’s a “Dwarve”?


41 posted on 11/17/2007 10:04:22 PM PST by Balata
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To: ansel12

Yep, send Fred out there with a cucumber and he’ll take care of her. :p


42 posted on 11/17/2007 10:04:51 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (John Cox 2008: Because Duncan Hunter just isn't obscure enough for me!)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

I don’t don’t get the cucumber thing, what is that about?


43 posted on 11/17/2007 10:11:50 PM PST by ansel12 (Proud father of a 10th Mountain veteran. Proud son of a WWII vet. Proud brother of vets, Airborne)
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To: Xeroes80
the most important issue for winning in ‘08, and the one that Her Thighness has no clue: SECURING OUR BORDERS AND ENFORCING OUR IMMIGRATION LAWS!!!!

Here we go folks - the shouting has started - the ONE and ONLY issue that will once again hi-jack every thread - the drum beat that ended up putting the democraps like pelosi and reid in power - starts again...

It isn't going to matter what other issues we want/need to talk about - we are going to be shouted down BORDERBORDERBORDERBORDERBORDERBORDERBORDER

44 posted on 11/17/2007 10:17:58 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Baladas

How to beat Hillary? ...a stinging parody web site tailored to independent voters exploiting Hillary’s biggest negative - trust. There are plenty of anti-Hillary sites out there, but most of them are lame, corny, or so anti-Hillary they turn non political people off. We have to use the formula Comedy Central uses - ridicule via comedy that’s tied to political analysis.

Just think about how fun it would be to parody Hillary’s site and substitute her poll tested issue pages with the reality of her record?

Or creating pages for all of her “constituencies” like women, latinos, illegals, unions, environmentalists, gays/lesbians and all the rest with the real reasons she supports them tied to her ratings from related special interest groups along with her voting record and evolving stances through the years.

Using the power of the internet to bypass the MSM pro-Clinton filter is the way to go, especially with the widespread use of web video. Something like this would also get tons of free press and viral potential by utilizing the latest in internet marketing tactics.


45 posted on 11/17/2007 10:21:52 PM PST by superfluousdude
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To: Baladas

Many people hate Hillary. I have never seen Bill Clinton, Al Gore, even Kerry, elicit the kind of dislike people have for her. It goes beyond simple politics, many people whom I consider centrist or even boderline liberal despise her.

That said, she has been methodically preparing for this since her sanate victory, and strategically the election is hers to lose. To defeat her we will need someone who is charming, who can be a contrast to the fundamental repulsion people feel towards her. Completely ignoring the issues, and looking exclusively at presentability, Huckabee would be good, Romney is also OK.


46 posted on 11/17/2007 10:22:12 PM PST by nightshiftblues
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

And there it is, the naked truth of the matter, by the time we remove our heads from our posteriors Hilde will be far ahead and with Cheerleaders in the OSM supplementing her huge war chest.


47 posted on 11/17/2007 10:25:55 PM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3)
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To: Balata

It’s an alternative plural of “dwarf”.


48 posted on 11/17/2007 10:28:16 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: HHFi

This actually fits in quite well with Rove’s story about Hillary letting him know she did not appreciate him telling anyone about the mirror in her office. She probably didn’t put the mirror there. But heaven forbid anyone think something about her that might possibly.... be.... true.

The real woman must never be revealed.

It must really be awful to be her.


49 posted on 11/17/2007 11:00:26 PM PST by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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To: Baladas; All

Something to keep in mind folks...

If CNN was willing to lie for Saddam, just what do you think they are willing to do getting Hillary! elected?

We have our work cut out for us...


50 posted on 11/17/2007 11:02:39 PM PST by tcrlaf (You can lead a Liberal to LOGIC, but you can't make it THINK)
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