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Electricity demand guzzling state's water
Atlanta Journal Constitution ^ | 11/18/07 | KEN FOSKETT, MARGARET NEWKIRK, STACY SHELTON

Posted on 11/18/2007 4:46:29 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom

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To: em2vn

Please look here:

http://www.windows.ucar.edu/tour/link=/headline_universe/small_feb.html&edu=high

Or here:

http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr161/lect/comets/smallcomets.html


21 posted on 11/18/2007 10:55:44 AM PST by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the US Senate)
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To: thackney

See post Number 21.


22 posted on 11/18/2007 10:56:26 AM PST by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the US Senate)
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To: YOUGOTIT

This seems like a dated postulate. Do you have anything more current that has withstood peer review?


23 posted on 11/18/2007 1:56:41 PM PST by em2vn
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To: em2vn

They arrive every minute and my peers have reviewed them.


24 posted on 11/18/2007 3:15:14 PM PST by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the US Senate)
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To: YOUGOTIT

Small comet theory melts under scrutiny
http://www.sciencenews.org/pages/pdfs/data/1998/153-23/15323-07.pdf

UI researcher fails to detect small comets
http://news-releases.uiowa.edu/1999/december/1216mutelcomets.html

‘Snowball Comets’ Are Just Camera Noise, Berkeley Researchers Say After Analyzing Dark Pixels In Iowa Data
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1998/09/980910074516.htm


25 posted on 11/18/2007 3:21:43 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

yours are not valid.

http://smallcomets.physics.uiowa.edu/


26 posted on 11/18/2007 3:23:05 PM PST by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the US Senate)
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To: thackney
And they are out of date. Latest is 2006.
27 posted on 11/18/2007 3:24:57 PM PST by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the US Senate)
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To: YOUGOTIT

That settles the matter. Who could question a self declaration of acknowledged scientifc fact, even if it is shrouded in obscurity and skepticism?
However, as you said your peers reviewed the theory. What is your area of scientific endeavor?


28 posted on 11/18/2007 5:54:06 PM PST by em2vn
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To: YOUGOTIT

The latest new at the site you linked is 2001. Most of the news is from the late 90’s, the same time period as my links.


29 posted on 11/18/2007 5:57:32 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Per unit of energy output, yes, a nuclear plant uses more water than a coal plant.


30 posted on 11/18/2007 6:55:07 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Wonder Warthog
>>But the whole premise of the article is BS, as all that water IS returned to the local watershed.

While I generally agree with that first, that last is not so. A not-inconsiderable part of it is converted to water vapor and dumped into the atmosphere. That's pretty much the purpose of these things:


31 posted on 11/18/2007 6:59:28 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: tbw2

See my previous post.


32 posted on 11/18/2007 7:00:44 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Savage Beast

Without getting into the details of the thermodynamic cycle involved, there’s a huge requirement for condenser cooling water with coal or steam plants. Even with recirculating systems using cooling towers, the make-up requirements are pretty enormous for a big plant.


33 posted on 11/18/2007 7:03:22 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: FreedomPoster
Make that "coal or nuclear plants."
34 posted on 11/18/2007 7:05:46 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: YOUGOTIT

From your link: “With all of this evidence in support, it does appear that there are about 20 snow comets weighing 20 to 40 tons each that crash into the Earth’s atmosphere every minute. The comets are no danger to life on Earth because they disintegrate in the atmosphere.”

20 per minute x 60 min/hr x 24 hours day = 28,800 per day x 365 = 10,512,000 per year.

That means 10,512,000 20-40 ton snow comets entering the Earth’s atmosphere earth each year magically avoid our orbiting satellites and space craft. Figure in nearly 50 years of space flight and we’ve avoided almost 1/2 billion, 20-40 ton missiles. Damn we’re good.


35 posted on 11/18/2007 7:16:48 PM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (The WOT will end when pork products are weaponized)
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To: FreedomPoster
"While I generally agree with that first, that last is not so. A not-inconsiderable part of it is converted to water vapor and dumped into the atmosphere. That's pretty much the purpose of these things:"

If you think the evaporated water DOESN'T get back to the watershed you're an idiot. Read the article, such heat exchangers "use" 1/10th of what a once-through water-to-water unit does. And even THAT gets returned eventually.

No--this whole issue is due to the fact that Atlanta failed to build reservoir capacity to match population growth.

36 posted on 11/19/2007 3:57:30 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: Wonder Warthog

First: Keep a civil tongue in your head.

Second: You are mistaken again. It is entirely possible for that water vapor to migrate out of the area defined as the watershed, without it being precipitated out. If fact, very possible. With the prevailing winds here, it often ends up over the Atlantic.

I agree on the reservoir capacity issue.


37 posted on 11/19/2007 5:22:58 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: FreedomPoster
"Second: You are mistaken again. It is entirely possible for that water vapor to migrate out of the area defined as the watershed, without it being precipitated out. If fact, very possible. With the prevailing winds here, it often ends up over the Atlantic."

Sure, some miniscule amount probably does---but that amount is completely insignificant relative to the amount of water continually being cycled in and out. And I'd bet that 90+% of it DOES remain in the watershed area.

Blaming the power companies for Atlanta's water shortage problems is so over the top that anybody who does it IS an idiot. You decide where you fit.

38 posted on 11/19/2007 6:39:36 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: Wonder Warthog

>>And I’d bet that 90+% of it DOES remain in the watershed area.

Have you bothered to look at the rainfall amounts since, say, last Winter? Hint: There hasn’t been a whole lot of precipitation happening.

I expect you are sadly mistaken on this point, at least for the period of interest.

And point out where I’m “blaming the power companies”, as you weakly attempt to imply. I never said any such thing.

But keep up your wrong-headed obnoxiousness, it seems to suit you well.


39 posted on 11/19/2007 6:46:11 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: YOUGOTIT

If the Solar System is has so many snow comets, why is Mars and the Moon with little to no water?


40 posted on 11/19/2007 7:54:15 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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