Ron Paul: Trouble back home

The Hill ^ | November 14, 2007 | David Hill

[bilhosty]

While Texan Ron Paul’s stock is soaring nationally, there is trouble on the home front. In September, Paul finished third in a straw poll of 1,300 Texas Republican activists who had been delegates to recent Republican conventions.

The congressman corralled just 17 percent of the votes cast, trailing California’s Duncan Hunter with 41 percent.

This outcome says Texas Republicans aren’t terribly concerned about viability. Otherwise, one of the national front-runners like Rudy Giuliani or Mitt Romney would have beaten these long-shots. But if they were willing to “waste” their votes on Hunter, why didn’t most back a fellow Texan? The truth is that Ron Paul, the angry prophet, has little honor in his own land. He’s about to lose his congressional seat.

[bilhosty]

Looks like Paul may have bitten off to much to chew on this time. I would bet Kucinich would be in similar trouble.

[mkjessup]

Well isn’t that a kick in the head for L. Ron Paul?

Beaten in his own backyard by the ‘unelectable’ Duncan Hunter.

That speaks volumes right here, it means that Texans recognize the difference between a patriot (Hunter) and a Kook (Paul).

Pinging the ‘humblegunner’, what was that you were saying about not hearing much about Duncan Hunter?

Bon appetit’ ya jamoke.

[elhombrelibre]

There’s no honor for Run Paul; he doesn’t honor his fellow Americans. So why would they honor him. He’s a shallow opportunist, especially on the Iraq war.

[AmericanMade1776]

Sounds like Ron Paul is “Texas Toast”

[infidel29]

The congressman corralled just 17 percent of the votes cast, trailing California’s Duncan Hunter with 41 percent.

"Texans recognize the difference between a patriot (Hunter) and a Kook (Paul)."

I think it's going to have to be the border states that get the word out on Hunter.

[CounterCounterCulture]

This outcome says Texas Republicans aren’t terribly concerned about viability.

Who the hell is he to say who's viable? Not one single vote has yet been cast. If people like the message of a candidate such as Duncan Hunter and support and vote for him, he's viable. If they go against their own interests, then they are self-defeating and have no one to blame but themselves by settling for a lesser candidate.

[hellbender]

The MSM and their pollsters feed us their line about the alleged massive popularity of Rudy Kazootie every day. They trumpet how Mitt “The Big Flipper” leads in tiny NH, across the line from his former domain of Taxachusetts. But they will ignore the fact that Duncan Hunter leads in the largest predominantly Republican state in the country.

[WakeUpAndVote]

Did you know Ron Paul was a doctor?

And he got a signed photograph of himself and Ronald Reagan?

Ron Reagan, Ron Paul? OMG!

[Hildy]

Yesterday we drove from Bullhead City to Phoenix...from Golden Valley to Kingman, there were so many Ron Paul lawn signs I was surprised. In Kingman Proper, getting onto I40E, there was a rally. I guess it was Ron Paul day! It makes sense he would be popular in that area...it’s a weird, weird place to live!

[AuntB]

This outfit is running radio ads that state Ron Paul is the only candidate who has ever done anything about illegal immigration. We all know Ron has never done one thing to stop it or secure the borders except recently give it lip service. Duncan Hunter and Tancredo have actually gotten legislation through to fix the mess. Ron Paul has never gotten one piece of his legislation through the process. NOT ONE. And they were’nt about illegal immigration. I hope you will let them know not all of us will buy their lies.

http://www.nevadansforamerica.org/

[humblegunner]

what was that you were saying about not hearing much about Duncan Hunter?

Other than the barely coherent rantings of his disciples here on FR, he's a virtual unknown.

Barney the dinosaur could prevail over Ron Paul, that's no big trick.

[canuck_conservative]

So someone who advocates actually following the US Constitution is now a “kook”, while an internationalist is called a “patriot”.

Well that’s interesting.

And disturbing.

[Bogtrotter52]

“Yesterday we drove from Bullhead City to Phoenix...from Golden Valley to Kingman,......”

Tell me about it. I live in Kingman. “Weird” is an understatement. This area is also the “meth & mullet” capital of the SW.

[BobS]

He was a gynecologist who scares women.

[Shery]

National publicity has made what seemed suspect obvious. The Texans are letting him know that they now know the real RP.

[Hildy]

This area is also the “meth & mullet” capital of the SW.

ROFLMAO! I thought Bullhead held that unique title! Where do you live in Kingman? Did you see the Ron Paul people out yesterday? We just bought a new car there so we've been up there a few times these past few weeks. We do drive up to the Hualapai Mountain Resort several times a year when we want to get away from everything!

[deport]

But they will ignore the fact that Duncan Hunter leads in the largest predominantly Republican state in the country.

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Which state is that?......

[Dark Wing]

fyi

[hellbender]

Texas, according to the OP. Yes, I know it’s not a poll.

[hellbender]

Correction: I know the results are not from a poll of the “sheeple at large,” but of real Republicans. Nevertheless, Texas is the largest state which has regularly gone Republican in recent years.

[deport]

Either one of you know anything about this Chris Peden fellow that the author of this article David Hill is touting?. Does he really have a chance at defeating Paul in the Primary. My guess is and I don’t know him is that he’s not that well known across the 14th as he’s only been in politics as a council member in Friendswood for a couple of years. I know the population maybe weighted a little towards the east side of 14 but the district stretches to the west over to Victoria, etc and that I suspect brings in a different mix of voters.

[Hildy]

But they will ignore the fact that Duncan Hunter leads in the largest predominantly Republican state in the country.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Which state is that?......

The state of delusion.

[deport]

Texas, according to the OP. Yes, I know it’s not a poll.

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Thanks. Hunter worked hard in and around the time of the Convention by spending time in the local republican offices around the districts meeting with the officials and holding some public events. I wish there was a current statewide poll but I’ve found nothing that isn’t several months old.

[elhombrelibre]

It’s not FLDS country, is it? I could see him being popular with bigamists. Of course, he’s mostly popular with people who cannot control themselves and don’t want anyone else to restrain them either, like drug addicts, pedophiles, anti-semites, racists, and tax cheats.

[deport]

The state of delusion.

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LOL... Sometimes that not a bad state to be in.........

[isthisnickcool]

Ron Paul has never done anything for the district. He simply cannot play well with others and he has never passed any legislation that benefited us here in South Texas. He's a nice old fart as far as crotchety old geezers go. He passes out little pocket sized US Constitutions and that's a nice thing. I've got one he gave me years ago that I carry around with me still.

Ron Paul's newfound fame as a presidential candidate does not translate in to his being popular in his district. Chris Peden may surprise some folks. Which is exectly the same thing that happened when Paul himself got elected. I know, I was a Paulbot when I was a kid and worked on his campaign against Gammage. The Dems were stunned when Paul won. They won't be stunned with him running as president.

[Dog Gone]

I don’t know anything about Peden except that he has declared that he will challenge Paul.

My guess is that unless there are a lot of challengers for Paul’s seat, he is very vulnerable. The level of disgust toward him is very high in his district. His constituents have finally learned what he believes.

[deport]

My guess is that unless there are a lot of challengers for Paul’s seat, he is very vulnerable.

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Paul has certainly got a lot of public exposure that he’s not had in the past even when he ran for the LP. I’ve never heard of this guy Peden but then I’m not that familiar with the local politics in that district. My personal take on this article is that this guy David Hill is trying to get himself a job with the Peden campaign or maybe already has one. He’s up in The Woodlands and claims to be a GOP pollster-campaign guru of sorts.

[Bogtrotter52]

I live Just off Northern

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Paul finished third in a straw poll of 1,300 Texas Republican activists who had been delegates to recent Republican conventions.

The poll was restricted to previous GOP convention delegates.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Other than the barely coherent rantings of his disciples here on FR, he's a virtual unknown.

5,000 showed up at Paul's Veteran's Day rally in Philadelphia last week.

How many showed up for Fred? Hunter? Romney?

[humblegunner]

How many showed up for Fred? Hunter? Romney?

If they showed up fror Captain Kook Ron Paul at a Veteran's Day rally
they were likely a bunch of cut-n-run Islamic apologists, like Paul.

[mkjessup]

Barney the dinosaur could prevail over Ron Paul, that's no big trick

Barney?

Barney Who?

Friend of yours?

Hope he's not from Massachusetts. LOL

[mkjessup]

So someone who advocates actually following the US Constitution is now a “kook”, while an internationalist is called a “patriot”.

What Ron Paul advocates is a return to a Fortress America mentality and his approach to foreign policy would be even worse than that of Jimmy Carter.

As for Duncan Hunter, before you sling that 'internationalist' label around, Hunter has been front and center for calling so-called 'free trade' with the ChiComs for what it is, UNfair trade which has cost Americans jobs and put our national security at risk.

Most Texans understood the difference, which is why Hunter trounced Ron Paul in his own backyard.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Sorry pal, but you’re wrong.

[Redbob]

"So someone who advocates actually following the US Constitution is now a “kook”

No, his support for the COnstitution is a good thing, but as we say around here, "even a blind pig finds an acorn now and then."

He's called a "kook," though, because he's a fricking KOOK!
Ya haven't ever heard him speak, "eh?"