Skip to comments.Howie Carr live thread week of Nov. 18, 2007
Posted on 11/18/2007 6:22:30 AM PST by raccoonradio
Howie made his grand return to the airwaves on Friday. From now on, the live ping will be done week to week. Those on the ping list will be pinged for (most) columns, as well as Monday through Friday for his shows, though perhaps not on holidays and/or times when he'll be off (this week for example, he won't be on Thanksgiving or the following day)
Howie Carr column ping
Carr on drivers
From Kerik to Menino, political wheelmen often roll to the top
By Howie Carr | Sunday, November 18, 2007 | http://www.bostonherald.com | Columnists
Who will drive the candidates car?
This is a very big question for the average politician. Because if you come up with the wrong person, it can lead to trouble, far down the road.
Just ask Rudy Giuliani. He did what most pols do - he picked a cop, a fast-talking street guy by the name of Bernie Kerik. Hows that working out for you, Rudy?
First Bernie gets indicted, now his ex-girlfriend, Judith Regan, is suing Rupert Murdochs News Corp. [NWS] This lunachick, as Regan is now called, claims she was fired as a book publisher because Rudys driver had given her enough dirt to hurt Ruperts guy Rudy. I guess you could call it pillow talk.
But then, in Boston we have our own examples of politicians hiring the wrong drivers. Most make the same decision Rudy did - a cop. Usually an aspiring pol has two types of drivers to choose from: a cop or a true believer, usually an ambitious, unemployed young man who dreams of someday becoming the person hes driving, and in the meantime wants to share his insights with the candidate in the back seat.
From which category would you pick - semistalker or cop?
Always get a cop, one now-retired statewide officeholder used to say. Theyre used to doing nothing and getting paid for it.
The late Sonny McDonough, once a governors councilor, had a different take on it. He didnt trust cops, not as drivers, and certainly not in the role into which drivers sometimes evolve: bagmen.
Never give a cop money, Sonny would lecture, unless its for himself.
The corollary of which was, I always hate it when a cop hands me $300 from somebody, because I never know if he stole $200 or $700.
But look on the bright side of having a cop driver. You never come out of a meeting and discover that the car is gone. Again, the paramilitary background. You neednt worry about inane chatter. On the job, cops seldom speak unless spoken to.
Most important, with a cop you dont have to worry about traffic problems. Parking in front of a fire plug? So what. Ditto speeding tickets or driving in the breakdown lane. You dont get pulled, period. Its professional courtesy.
So the pol wins the election, and your cop driver quite naturally expects to be rewarded. Alas, sometimes things dont work out. Paul Cellucci got state trooper/driver Tony Dichio the U.S. marshals job. Tony left after his work habits made the front page. Bill Welds driver, a state cop named Joe Lawless, became director of security at Massport. Nobody cared, until Sept. 11.
Mayor Ray Flynn needed a driver more than most - and Boston cop John Swerve Swirbalus was his trusted aide. Alas, Swerve was convicted in 1995 of attempting to obstruct justice to quash a road-rage incident. Poor Swerve, hes not a bad guy.
Not every pol goes for a cop, though. The problem is, the civilian driver needs that hack job much more desperately than a cop does. Chub Peabody, when he was running for governor, had a young wheelman named Dapper ONeil. Chub won and the Dap was his patronage secretary for about two days. Then Dapper got shipped out to the Boston Licensing Board, where he was soon defending Combat Zone dives.
Then there was Jailbird Joe Timilty, thrice-unsuccessful candidate for mayor of Boston. I wonder how he feels about his old driver, Mumbles Menino, who went to the Parkman House while his mentor was packed off to Club Fed.
Around here, the biggest payoffs to drivers have come from the Bush family. In 1980, George H.W. Bush used Massachusetts state reps during the New Hampshire primary. Andy Card became a cabinet secretary for 41 and then 43s White House chief of staff. Ex-rep Andrew Natsios has had a string of good federal jobs at good wages. Another of 41s drivers, Mass state cop James Roche, became marshal for Boston, then top marshal for the United States, and now a court clerk.
The pols come and they go. Cellucci liked to ride in the front seat, Mitt had a convoy (the Mob would call them crash cars). As for Deval, unlike Mitt, he doesnt like anyone with him in the back seat. He travels solo, staring out the Caddys tinted windows. But they all need drivers, and the drivers all want a quo for the quid.
Theres one way around the problem, of course. You could do what Mike Dukakis did - take the Green Line. I dont see another another Dukakis on the horizon, do you?
Today’s Pols and Politics feature in the Boston Herald mentions Herald scribe Tony Massarotti’s appearance
on Finneran’s Forum, in which Tony says he has no respect for “courtroom liars” like
Barry Bonds. There was an embarassing silence.
“Discussing Barry Bonds federal perjury rap on his radio show Friday, ex-House Speaker Tom Finneran opened up somewhat of a Pandoras box when he asked Herald baseball guru Tony Massarotti for his feelings on the case.
“Massarotti proceeded to rail against Bonds for allegedly lying under oath, saying he had no respect for courtroom liars.
“Finneran, who pleaded guilty to federal obstruction of justice charges for misleading a grand jury, was painfully silent. You could almost hear the flummoxed felon squirming in his chair. After Massarottis colorful analysis ended, Finneran abruptly thanked him for coming on the show and went to a commercial.”
TV maven and conservative babe Ann Coulter joins us to talk about her new book If Democrats Had Any Brains, They'd Be Republicans.
Bruce Freidrich from PETA will join us for our annual "Why eating turkeys is bad" hour....want to go vegetarian? (You can also call 1-888-VEG FOOD (note, it is not 1-800)).
CHUMP LINE! Call 617-779-3469 and leave Howie, Sandy or Happy a message about today\'s stories or anything else buzzing around your bonnet and we may play it back on the air!
Max Robins our TV Guru will be with us to answer all of those nagging questions about your favorite show on the boob tube...
4th Hour --TBA
THE HOWIE CARR SHOW weeekdays 3-7 pm
Howie’s affiliates page is down but as far as I know:
WRKO AM 680 Boston
WXTK FM 95.1 Cape Cod
(WCRN Worc. dropped Howie but hopefully will pick him up again)
WHYN AM 560 Holyoke MA
WVMT AM 620 Burlington VT
WNTK FM 99.7 New London NH
WKBK AM 1290 Keene NH
WUVR AM 1490 Lebanon NH
WGAN AM 560 Portland ME
WVOM FM 103.9 Bangor ME
WEGP AM 1390 Presque Isle ME
Finally, the great guest are back.
And I love Howie’s interviews with the PETA-dude.
What’s Thanksgiving without PETA touting the virtues of Tofurkey to Howie and his response?...LOL
I am Thankful Howie is Back
This kind of thing is one of Howie's fortes. Looking forward to the tofu turkey jokes.
But no VB to spit out the faux food on Bruce’s wife.
I remember Howie's story about intercepting a cellphone or radio call trying to decide if Dukakis should arrive by car or on foot to some event in Boston. The aides decided to drop the gov off a block or two away so he could appear to have walked from his office.
I generally hated the Green Line, but only because they scheduled it to arrive at BU five minutes before evening classes got out, and making connections to the Orange Line was pain, since that was the time those cars went out of service, and rather than wait for another train, I'd hoof the tunnel to the Orange line, usually missing that train by 5-15 seconds. I think it was about 20 minutes to the next one.
Off topic, but I was in grad school at BU when Dukakis was in and everyone (well, the Globe) was praising his humble simplicity in taking the Green Line. I'd stand in Copley Station 20 minutes waiting for a Commonwealth Ave car I could get on, and just count the nearly empty Riverside (Dukakis' line) cars streaming by.
I do recall reading a story about Dukakis and the T: He apparently had some "important" out of state guests and wanted to show off the T by taking them on it when they went to lunch -- only no one told the T. So the trains were running on their usual non-rush hour schedule, and they had to wait something like half an hour. I gather Dukakis was livid at being embarrassed like that! I always thought during those years that I wouldn't mind taking the T either -- if they'd only run it according to my schedule!
Well, at least some portion, most to even Kenmore.
Northeastern cars go Huntington Ave (they're the only ones that don't go through Kenmore). Boston College/Commonwealth cars go Comm Ave. Beacon Street cars go, well, Beacon street -- they come out of the tunnel after Kenmore at Beacon and St. Mary's Street. Riverside cars don't actually go on a street -- I think their first stop after the tunnel (and after Kenmore) is Fenway, near Emanuel and Simmons colleges. Most of the route is actually kind of woodsy.
I know waaay more about the Green Line than a human being ought to!
Early 90s. Yes, it’s been a while since I’ve been to Boston, let alone on the T.
>>World Series MVP Mike Lowell agrees to three year contract to remain with Red Sox
Coulter, PETA guy, and Max Robins today; the death pool
tomorrow. Mr. Whipple won’t be down to squeeze your
Charmin. though I think that won’t be the winner
Howie’s famous story about the Duke—when 2 union leaders
came over to visit and he offered them a beer. And they
think, hey, this is...not a bad guy. The Duke emerges
with a bottle of beer...and two glasses. hey big spender!
It's the urine smell that turns me off. To each his own, I suppose.
Howie’s got a million of ‘em — and there must be at least a million about Dukakis! :)
Ingraham still on WVMT at 3PM.
You haven't lived until you've seen the "Everybody Loves Raymond" Tofurkey episode. One of the funniest things of any kind ever.
Hey Cal, how ya doin?????
That's like hittin a $200 Trifecta!!!!!
Rain and Snow are forecast.
OTOH, maybe he really was just that cheap...
With his own money, anyway.
I doubt they're talking about a huge amount.
But sunday nights STILL SUCK without Drudge!!!
hope you were able to catch Howie w/ Ann online, then
snow flurries here in Beverly this am—just flakes
this was a long time ago...
OMG! I LOVE the peta people, best radio ever! Howie really knows how to work these people! Looking forward to the interview!
I was really searching for a decent live thread, but grabbed the binocs and went out stargazing for a while.
I just couldn't get motivated enough to haul out the telescope.
I should have, given the weather forecast, and spent some time looking at Holmes while I had the chance.
me the first night when he was kissin Hannity's butt.
I haven't been back since.
Afternoon Rock! good seein ya!!
"Poor Alan Colmes. He gets it from both sides..."
I forgot that the Kennedys and McCarthy were friends. WFB has a story about the guy that JFK was running against for the US Senate. An aide calls up McCarthy, and asks him to come to Boston to campaign, and McCarthy says "Sure. Just have [the blue blood candidate] give me a call, and we'll set something up".
WFB said that McCarthy knew JFK's opponent was too rigid to personally call, so he deftly side-stepped not supporting the pubbie candidate over JFK.
"Five to one baby, one to five
Nobody here gets out alive"
So, Dukakis, in order to cause as much pain to those that would drive, also caused his detail to pace the trolley, screwing up those not on mass transit?
Ann was good as usual.
PETA fag on now for a laugh.
Lots of these guys can't make the transition from local to national audiences.
ah! good you were able to hear it
Sunday evenings for me nowis catch up on sleep night.
It’s all image with the dhimmicrats - - no substance.
The Tue. ping; death pool time
Mark Levine refers to them as "Demoroids"...pretty accurate description...
Hot diggity dog! Two hours and counting!
How you doin? In case you haven’t heard HOWIE”S BACK on WRKO
I did gather that Teddy K. was picked, along with Kitty Dukakis, Hillary, Tony Snow, Lauren Bacall, Andy Griffith, and I forgot the rest.
Don't they run through 30 or 35 names in an hour