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Howie Carr live thread week of Nov. 18, 2007
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Posted on 11/18/2007 6:22:30 AM PST by raccoonradio

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1 posted on 11/18/2007 6:22:31 AM PST by raccoonradio
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Howie Carr column ping

Carr on drivers
From Kerik to Menino, political wheelmen often roll to the top
By Howie Carr | Sunday, November 18, 2007 | http://www.bostonherald.com | Columnists

Who will drive the candidate’s car?

This is a very big question for the average politician. Because if you come up with the wrong person, it can lead to trouble, far down the road.

Just ask Rudy Giuliani. He did what most pols do - he picked a cop, a fast-talking street guy by the name of Bernie Kerik. How’s that working out for you, Rudy?

First Bernie gets indicted, now his ex-girlfriend, Judith Regan, is suing Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp. [NWS] This lunachick, as Regan is now called, claims she was fired as a book publisher because Rudy’s driver had given her enough dirt to hurt Rupert’s guy Rudy. I guess you could call it pillow talk.

But then, in Boston we have our own examples of politicians hiring the wrong drivers. Most make the same decision Rudy did - a cop. Usually an aspiring pol has two types of drivers to choose from: a cop or a true believer, usually an ambitious, unemployed young man who dreams of someday becoming the person he’s driving, and in the meantime wants to share his insights with the candidate in the back seat.

From which category would you pick - semistalker or cop?

“Always get a cop,” one now-retired statewide officeholder used to say. “They’re used to doing nothing and getting paid for it.”

The late Sonny McDonough, once a governor’s councilor, had a different take on it. He didn’t trust cops, not as drivers, and certainly not in the role into which drivers sometimes evolve: bagmen.

“Never give a cop money,” Sonny would lecture, “unless it’s for himself.”

The corollary of which was, “I always hate it when a cop hands me $300 from somebody, because I never know if he stole $200 or $700.”

But look on the bright side of having a cop driver. You never come out of a meeting and discover that the car is gone. Again, the paramilitary background. You needn’t worry about inane chatter. On the job, cops seldom speak unless spoken to.

Most important, with a cop you don’t have to worry about traffic problems. Parking in front of a fire plug? So what. Ditto speeding tickets or driving in the breakdown lane. You don’t get pulled, period. It’s professional courtesy.

So the pol wins the election, and your cop driver quite naturally expects to be rewarded. Alas, sometimes things don’t work out. Paul Cellucci got state trooper/driver Tony Dichio the U.S. marshal’s job. Tony left after his work habits made the front page. Bill Weld’s driver, a state cop named Joe Lawless, became director of security at Massport. Nobody cared, until Sept. 11.

Mayor Ray Flynn needed a driver more than most - and Boston cop John “Swerve” Swirbalus was his trusted aide. Alas, Swerve was convicted in 1995 of attempting to obstruct justice to quash a road-rage incident. Poor Swerve, he’s not a bad guy.

Not every pol goes for a cop, though. The problem is, the civilian driver needs that hack job much more desperately than a cop does. Chub Peabody, when he was running for governor, had a young wheelman named Dapper O’Neil. Chub won and the Dap was his patronage secretary for about two days. Then Dapper got shipped out to the Boston Licensing Board, where he was soon defending Combat Zone dives.

Then there was Jailbird Joe Timilty, thrice-unsuccessful candidate for mayor of Boston. I wonder how he feels about his old driver, Mumbles Menino, who went to the Parkman House while his mentor was packed off to Club Fed.

Around here, the biggest payoffs to drivers have come from the Bush family. In 1980, George H.W. Bush used Massachusetts state reps during the New Hampshire primary. Andy Card became a cabinet secretary for 41 and then 43’s White House chief of staff. Ex-rep Andrew Natsios has had a string of good federal jobs at good wages. Another of 41’s drivers, Mass state cop James Roche, became marshal for Boston, then top marshal for the United States, and now a court clerk.

The pols come and they go. Cellucci liked to ride in the front seat, Mitt had a convoy (the Mob would call them “crash cars”). As for Deval, unlike Mitt, he doesn’t like anyone with him in the back seat. He travels solo, staring out the Caddy’s tinted windows. But they all need drivers, and the drivers all want a quo for the quid.

There’s one way around the problem, of course. You could do what Mike Dukakis did - take the Green Line. I don’t see another another Dukakis on the horizon, do you?

Article URL: http://www.bostonherald.com/news/opinion/columnists/view.bg?articleid=1045464


2 posted on 11/18/2007 6:23:39 AM PST by raccoonradio (Howie Carr is Back! Weekdays 3-7 pm on WRKO & The Howie Network)
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Today’s Pols and Politics feature in the Boston Herald mentions Herald scribe Tony Massarotti’s appearance
on Finneran’s Forum, in which Tony says he has no respect for “courtroom liars” like
Barry Bonds. There was an embarassing silence.

“Discussing Barry Bonds’ federal perjury rap on his radio show Friday, ex-House Speaker Tom Finneran opened up somewhat of a Pandora’s box when he asked Herald baseball guru Tony Massarotti for his feelings on the case.

“Massarotti proceeded to rail against Bonds for allegedly lying under oath, saying he had no respect for courtroom liars.

“Finneran, who pleaded guilty to federal obstruction of justice charges for misleading a grand jury, was painfully silent. You could almost hear the flummoxed felon squirming in his chair. After Massarotti’s colorful analysis ended, Finneran abruptly thanked him for coming on the show and went to a commercial.”

http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/politics/view.bg?articleid=1045465


3 posted on 11/18/2007 7:33:41 AM PST by raccoonradio (Howie Carr is Back! Weekdays 3-7 pm on WRKO & The Howie Network)
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To: raccoonradio
Ahh! "the B*TCHSLAP heard around the world uhhh Boston"
4 posted on 11/18/2007 11:54:34 AM PST by Cheapskate ( Celebrate Sept.8 as Pajamatag , the day the pajamahadeem busted Dan Rather!!)
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The Monday ping.
MONDAY NOVEMBER 19

1st Hour
TV maven and conservative babe Ann Coulter joins us to talk about her new book If Democrats Had Any Brains, They'd Be Republicans.

2nd Hour
Bruce Freidrich from PETA will join us for our annual "Why eating turkeys is bad" hour....want to go vegetarian? (You can also call 1-888-VEG FOOD (note, it is not 1-800)).

3rd Hour
CHUMP LINE! Call 617-779-3469 and leave Howie, Sandy or Happy a message about today\'s stories or anything else buzzing around your bonnet and we may play it back on the air!
Max Robins our TV Guru will be with us to answer all of those nagging questions about your favorite show on the boob tube...

4th Hour --TBA

5 posted on 11/19/2007 8:10:43 AM PST by raccoonradio (Howie Carr is Back! Weekdays 3-7 pm on WRKO & The Howie Network)
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To: raccoonradio

THE HOWIE CARR SHOW weeekdays 3-7 pm

WRKO AM 680
streamcast at http://www.wrko.com, http://www.wntk.com

Howie’s affiliates page is down but as far as I know:

WRKO AM 680 Boston
WXTK FM 95.1 Cape Cod
(WCRN Worc. dropped Howie but hopefully will pick him up again)
WHYN AM 560 Holyoke MA

WVMT AM 620 Burlington VT
WNTK FM 99.7 New London NH
WKBK AM 1290 Keene NH
WUVR AM 1490 Lebanon NH

WGAN AM 560 Portland ME
WVOM FM 103.9 Bangor ME
WEGP AM 1390 Presque Isle ME


6 posted on 11/19/2007 8:14:03 AM PST by raccoonradio (Howie Carr is Back! Weekdays 3-7 pm on WRKO & The Howie Network)
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Finally, the great guest are back.

And I love Howie’s interviews with the PETA-dude.

What’s Thanksgiving without PETA touting the virtues of Tofurkey to Howie and his response?...LOL

I am Thankful Howie is Back


7 posted on 11/19/2007 8:25:56 AM PST by libertarian27 (Land of the Fee, Home of the Shamed)
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To: raccoonradio
2nd Hour Bruce Freidrich from PETA will join us for our annual "Why eating turkeys is bad" hour....want to go vegetarian? (You can also call 1-888-VEG FOOD (note, it is not 1-800)).

This kind of thing is one of Howie's fortes. Looking forward to the tofu turkey jokes.

8 posted on 11/19/2007 8:33:24 AM PST by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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Tofurkey!


9 posted on 11/19/2007 8:51:00 AM PST by raccoonradio (Howie Carr is Back! Weekdays 3-7 pm on WRKO & The Howie Network)
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To: libertarian27

But no VB to spit out the faux food on Bruce’s wife.


10 posted on 11/19/2007 10:33:49 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: raccoonradio
You could do what Mike Dukakis did - take the Green Line.

I remember Howie's story about intercepting a cellphone or radio call trying to decide if Dukakis should arrive by car or on foot to some event in Boston. The aides decided to drop the gov off a block or two away so he could appear to have walked from his office.

I generally hated the Green Line, but only because they scheduled it to arrive at BU five minutes before evening classes got out, and making connections to the Orange Line was pain, since that was the time those cars went out of service, and rather than wait for another train, I'd hoof the tunnel to the Orange line, usually missing that train by 5-15 seconds. I think it was about 20 minutes to the next one.

11 posted on 11/19/2007 10:49:37 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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I generally hated the Green Line, but only because they scheduled it to arrive at BU five minutes before evening classes got out

Off topic, but I was in grad school at BU when Dukakis was in and everyone (well, the Globe) was praising his humble simplicity in taking the Green Line. I'd stand in Copley Station 20 minutes waiting for a Commonwealth Ave car I could get on, and just count the nearly empty Riverside (Dukakis' line) cars streaming by.

I do recall reading a story about Dukakis and the T: He apparently had some "important" out of state guests and wanted to show off the T by taking them on it when they went to lunch -- only no one told the T. So the trains were running on their usual non-rush hour schedule, and they had to wait something like half an hour. I gather Dukakis was livid at being embarrassed like that! I always thought during those years that I wouldn't mind taking the T either -- if they'd only run it according to my schedule!

12 posted on 11/19/2007 11:10:34 AM PST by maryz
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Comm Ave car? They all are on Comm Ave...

Well, at least some portion, most to even Kenmore.

13 posted on 11/19/2007 11:33:46 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Calvin Locke
How long is it since you were at BU? ;-)

Northeastern cars go Huntington Ave (they're the only ones that don't go through Kenmore). Boston College/Commonwealth cars go Comm Ave. Beacon Street cars go, well, Beacon street -- they come out of the tunnel after Kenmore at Beacon and St. Mary's Street. Riverside cars don't actually go on a street -- I think their first stop after the tunnel (and after Kenmore) is Fenway, near Emanuel and Simmons colleges. Most of the route is actually kind of woodsy.

I know waaay more about the Green Line than a human being ought to!

14 posted on 11/19/2007 11:41:43 AM PST by maryz
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Early 90s. Yes, it’s been a while since I’ve been to Boston, let alone on the T.


15 posted on 11/19/2007 11:50:50 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Calvin Locke; All

>>World Series MVP Mike Lowell agrees to three year contract to remain with Red Sox

Woo hoo!

Coulter, PETA guy, and Max Robins today; the death pool
tomorrow. Mr. Whipple won’t be down to squeeze your
Charmin. though I think that won’t be the winner


16 posted on 11/19/2007 11:57:09 AM PST by raccoonradio (Howie Carr is Back! Weekdays 3-7 pm on WRKO & The Howie Network)
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To: maryz

Howie’s famous story about the Duke—when 2 union leaders
came over to visit and he offered them a beer. And they
think, hey, this is...not a bad guy. The Duke emerges
with a bottle of beer...and two glasses. hey big spender!


17 posted on 11/19/2007 11:58:54 AM PST by raccoonradio (Howie Carr is Back! Weekdays 3-7 pm on WRKO & The Howie Network)
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To: Calvin Locke
I generally hated the Green Line, but only because they scheduled it to arrive at BU five minutes before evening classes got out

It's the urine smell that turns me off. To each his own, I suppose.

18 posted on 11/19/2007 12:04:17 PM PST by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: raccoonradio

Howie’s got a million of ‘em — and there must be at least a million about Dukakis! :)


19 posted on 11/19/2007 12:05:37 PM PST by maryz
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To: raccoonradio

Ingraham still on WVMT at 3PM.


20 posted on 11/19/2007 12:10:11 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: raccoonradio
Tofurkey!

You haven't lived until you've seen the "Everybody Loves Raymond" Tofurkey episode. One of the funniest things of any kind ever.

21 posted on 11/19/2007 12:10:13 PM PST by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Calvin Locke

Hey Cal, how ya doin?????


22 posted on 11/19/2007 12:30:57 PM PST by Cheapskate ( Celebrate Sept.8 as Pajamatag , the day the pajamahadeem busted Dan Rather!!)
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Howie ,Max AND Deathpool in ONE DAY???

That's like hittin a $200 Trifecta!!!!!

23 posted on 11/19/2007 12:34:22 PM PST by Cheapskate ( Celebrate Sept.8 as Pajamatag , the day the pajamahadeem busted Dan Rather!!)
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To: Cheapskate
Not too bad. How about your self? Actually, now that I heard the weather for Thanksgiving, we generally go over to the parents', and put up Christmas lights for mother.

Rain and Snow are forecast.

24 posted on 11/19/2007 12:41:27 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: raccoonradio
To be fair to Dukakis, would you keep any quantity of "booze" in the house with Kitty?

OTOH, maybe he really was just that cheap...

With his own money, anyway.

25 posted on 11/19/2007 12:44:31 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Calvin Locke
I think we're supposed to get a little snow wed. night.

I doubt they're talking about a huge amount.

But sunday nights STILL SUCK without Drudge!!!

26 posted on 11/19/2007 12:48:36 PM PST by Cheapskate ( Celebrate Sept.8 as Pajamatag , the day the pajamahadeem busted Dan Rather!!)
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To: Calvin Locke

hope you were able to catch Howie w/ Ann online, then

snow flurries here in Beverly this am—just flakes


27 posted on 11/19/2007 12:57:53 PM PST by raccoonradio (Howie Carr is Back! Weekdays 3-7 pm on WRKO & The Howie Network)
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To: Calvin Locke

this was a long time ago...


28 posted on 11/19/2007 12:58:15 PM PST by raccoonradio (Howie Carr is Back! Weekdays 3-7 pm on WRKO & The Howie Network)
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To: libertarian27

OMG! I LOVE the peta people, best radio ever! Howie really knows how to work these people! Looking forward to the interview!


29 posted on 11/19/2007 12:58:59 PM PST by rockabyebaby (HEY JORGE, SHUT UP AND BUILD THE BLEEPING FENCE, ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.)
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To: Cheapskate
I was just thinking that last night.

I was really searching for a decent live thread, but grabbed the binocs and went out stargazing for a while.

I just couldn't get motivated enough to haul out the telescope.

I should have, given the weather forecast, and spent some time looking at Holmes while I had the chance.

30 posted on 11/19/2007 12:59:31 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: raccoonradio
You could do what Mike Dukakis did - take the Green Line

When Mike Dukakis rode the Green Line trolley to work as governor, a State Police vehicle drove down Beacon Street - - alongside.


31 posted on 11/19/2007 1:06:21 PM PST by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have .chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: Calvin Locke
Old what'shisname that took over for Matt killed it for

me the first night when he was kissin Hannity's butt.

I haven't been back since.

32 posted on 11/19/2007 1:08:52 PM PST by Cheapskate ( Celebrate Sept.8 as Pajamatag , the day the pajamahadeem busted Dan Rather!!)
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Afternoon Rock! good seein ya!!


33 posted on 11/19/2007 1:10:20 PM PST by Cheapskate ( Celebrate Sept.8 as Pajamatag , the day the pajamahadeem busted Dan Rather!!)
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Yes, I got a relatively decent connection.

"Poor Alan Colmes. He gets it from both sides..."

I forgot that the Kennedys and McCarthy were friends. WFB has a story about the guy that JFK was running against for the US Senate. An aide calls up McCarthy, and asks him to come to Boston to campaign, and McCarthy says "Sure. Just have [the blue blood candidate] give me a call, and we'll set something up".

WFB said that McCarthy knew JFK's opponent was too rigid to personally call, so he deftly side-stepped not supporting the pubbie candidate over JFK.

34 posted on 11/19/2007 1:12:28 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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In the immortal words of Jim Morrison;

"Five to one baby, one to five

Nobody here gets out alive"

35 posted on 11/19/2007 1:16:32 PM PST by Cheapskate ( Celebrate Sept.8 as Pajamatag , the day the pajamahadeem busted Dan Rather!!)
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To: Beckwith

So, Dukakis, in order to cause as much pain to those that would drive, also caused his detail to pace the trolley, screwing up those not on mass transit?


36 posted on 11/19/2007 1:16:36 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: raccoonradio

Ann was good as usual.
PETA fag on now for a laugh.


37 posted on 11/19/2007 1:18:01 PM PST by mowowie
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To: Cheapskate
But sunday nights STILL SUCK without Drudge!!!

Yup...

38 posted on 11/19/2007 1:19:13 PM PST by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: Cheapskate
That guy would fill in for Rush. He did nothing for me, so I didn't even bother to check it out.

Lots of these guys can't make the transition from local to national audiences.

39 posted on 11/19/2007 1:20:36 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Calvin Locke

ah! good you were able to hear it


40 posted on 11/19/2007 1:21:05 PM PST by raccoonradio (Howie Carr is Back! Weekdays 3-7 pm on WRKO & The Howie Network)
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41 posted on 11/19/2007 1:25:56 PM PST by raccoonradio (Howie Carr is Back! Weekdays 3-7 pm on WRKO & The Howie Network)
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To: Calvin Locke

Sunday evenings for me nowis catch up on sleep night.


42 posted on 11/19/2007 1:26:30 PM PST by Cheapskate ( Celebrate Sept.8 as Pajamatag , the day the pajamahadeem busted Dan Rather!!)
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To: Calvin Locke

It’s all image with the dhimmicrats - - no substance.


43 posted on 11/19/2007 2:21:37 PM PST by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have .chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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The Tue. ping; death pool time


44 posted on 11/20/2007 9:22:01 AM PST by raccoonradio (Howie Carr is Back! Weekdays 3-7 pm on WRKO & The Howie Network)
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To: Beckwith
It’s all image with the dhimmicrats - - no substance.

Mark Levine refers to them as "Demoroids"...pretty accurate description...

45 posted on 11/20/2007 9:34:14 AM PST by FDNYRHEROES (Always bring a liberal to a gunfight)
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To: raccoonradio
death pool time

Hot diggity dog! Two hours and counting!

46 posted on 11/20/2007 9:55:23 AM PST by rockabyebaby (HEY JORGE, SHUT UP AND BUILD THE BLEEPING FENCE, ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.)
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Afternoon Everybody!Just got in and missed another deathpool.

Oh well!

47 posted on 11/20/2007 1:47:53 PM PST by Cheapskate ( Celebrate Sept.8 as Pajamatag , the day the pajamahadeem busted Dan Rather!!)
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To: UKRaddell

How you doin? In case you haven’t heard HOWIE”S BACK on WRKO


48 posted on 11/20/2007 2:01:55 PM PST by Cheapskate ( Celebrate Sept.8 as Pajamatag , the day the pajamahadeem busted Dan Rather!!)
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To: Cheapskate
I missed at least half, then with the crappy internet connection, I missed about half of the remaining calls.

I did gather that Teddy K. was picked, along with Kitty Dukakis, Hillary, Tony Snow, Lauren Bacall, Andy Griffith, and I forgot the rest.

49 posted on 11/20/2007 2:15:50 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Calvin Locke
Well there's no wonder why you couldn't remember them all

Don't they run through 30 or 35 names in an hour

50 posted on 11/20/2007 2:30:05 PM PST by Cheapskate ( Celebrate Sept.8 as Pajamatag , the day the pajamahadeem busted Dan Rather!!)
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