Skip to comments.Noah's Ark Flood Spurred European Farming
Posted on 11/18/2007 8:58:45 AM PST by anymouse
An ancient flood some say could be the origin of the story of Noah's Ark may have helped the spread of agriculture in Europe 8,300 years ago by scattering the continent's earliest farmers, researchers said on Sunday.
Using radiocarbon dating and archaeological evidence, a British team showed the collapse of the North American ice sheet, which raised global sea levels by as much as 1.4 meters, displaced tens of thousands of people in southeastern Europe who carried farming skills to their new homes.
The researchers said in the journal Quaternary Science Reviews their study provides direct evidence linking the flood that breached a ridge keeping the Mediterranean apart from the Black Sea to the rise of farming in Europe.
"The flooding of the Black Sea was not well dated but we got it down to about 50 years," said Chris Turney, a geologist at the University of Exeter, who led the study. "As soon as the flooding is done, farming goes crazy across Europe."
The researchers created reconstructions of the Mediterranean and Black Sea shoreline before and after the rise in sea levels. They estimated the flood covered some 73,000 square kilometers over a 34-year period, causing mass displacement of people.
Previous archaeological evidence has shown communities in the region were already farming when the flood hit. The Exeter team suggests the mass migration caused a sudden expansion of farming and pottery production across the continent.
"We looked at all the earliest data on farming in Europe and we found a little bit of farming in Greece and the Balkans just before the flood," Turney said in a telephone interview. "When the flood happened, farming seemed to stop but it was re-established a generation later across Europe."
The researchers believe these people took their skills to new areas previously populated by hunters and gatherers where there had been no evidence of farming, Turney said.
The study also underscores the potential impact rising sea levels may have in the future, the researchers said. An expected one meter rise by the end of the century due to climate change would displace some 145 million people, Turney added.
It also paints a picture of the kind of mass disruption that has prompted some scientists to link the ancient flood to the origins of the biblical story of Noah's Ark, Turney said.
"When the Black Sea flooded at end of last ice age some people have suggested it was the origins of the Noah's Ark myth," he said. "If you lived in that basin it would have seemed like the whole world had flooded."
Great flood ping!
I don’t care what some scientist immagine as a theory, its wrong.
Have you got a competing theory?
The true story of Noah’s Ark (Global Flood).
Hey Doc, was there a global flood?
There is no convincing scientific evidence of a global flood about 4350 years ago, the time most commonly ascribed by Biblical scholars to that event.
Also, I expect these Anatolian farmers took their Indo-European language with them too. Further, this flood may be why some Europeans migrated all the way to China.
How about a regional flood in the Black Lake area?
I think a lot of the Great Flood legends are dim memories of a possible asteroid or comet crash off the US East Coast around 10,000 BC that may have caused massive flooding of the eastern Atlantic shoreline from impact-generated tsumanis. It also could be the result of early humans watching ice dams collapse from the receding glaciers at the end of the last great Ice Age, which flooded huge swaths of land.
So you believe a guy built a boat and loaded up his family and two of all the animals species on the world so they could weather a giant storm and then repopulate a world completely devoid of life?
Here is a good link: http://www.religioustolerance.org/ev_noah.htm
I was reading one of those Christian Answers sites the other day and they were theorizing that God placed all the animals in suspended animation so they could be easily stacked and packed into the ark. Makes about as much sense as Al Gore’s belief the earth has some ideal climate that would never change if not for SUVs and plastic grocery bags.
Well it was a lake prior to it’s flooding.
That seems more plausible.
Aryans to North America 4400 years ago? That’s a new one to me.
"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth...."
"If I knew God I'd be Him." But I know enough from His creation that it's good, and that we should strive for goodness therein.
Sounds like "global warming" to me. And to think, they did it all without automobiles, industrialization, carbon offsets, and all the "evils" of big business, George W. Bush, America, and Western civilization.
I appreciate your thoughtful reply. I fail to understand how any modern human can conceivably interpret the Bible literally, yet it is done constantly.
Me too. They got to NA much earlier than that...possibly as early a 25,000 years ago.
Kennewick Man,or the Great American Indian Hoax or “Who’s on (the continent) first?”
"The oldest human remains found in the Americas were recently "discovered" in the storeroom of Mexico's National Museum of Anthropology. Found in central Mexico in 1959, the five skulls were radiocarbon dated by a team of researchers from the United Kingdom and Mexico and found to be 13,000 years old. They pre-date the Clovis culture by a couple thousand years, adding to the growing evidence against the Clovis-first model for the first peopling of the Americas."
"Of additional significance is the shape of the skulls, which are described as long and narrow, very unlike those of modern Native Americans."
Pretty Much (The Biblical Account)! And I believe there is empirical evidence that shows so (both Geological and Archeological..)!
I plead guilty. I guess shame on me, huh?
The real connection between the flood and European farming is that Japheth took some farming manuals to read during the flood, while his brothers just played checkers the whole time.
I’m afraid so.
I’m sure you do believe there is empirical evidence that supports a biblical account. Unfortunately, evidence is sometimes distorted (or worse) by agenda-driven organizations in order to maintain status quo. On closer or more rigorous inspection, often times what has been accepted as foundational, is simply an artifact of what amounts to wishful thinking.
And if all life was destroyed in the flood, where did the olive branch come from? Weren’t all the trees dead?
I don’t base my empiracle evidence upon any give me by an Organization, I base it upon the simple facts!
All land-living animal life. Obviously fish and sea creatures were able to survive, and so are some forrests when they haven’t been submerged for long, or very deeply!
Well, fish wouldn’t need to be saved.
Unfortunately, evidence is sometimes distorted (or worse) by agenda-driven organizations in order to maintain status quo. On closer or more rigorous inspection, often times what has been accepted as foundational, is simply an artifact of what amounts to wishful thinking.I couldn't have put it better myself!
Isn’t how the Evos will try to explain what happened every which way so long as the explanation can’t be contrued as supporting the Biblical account of the flood.
Take fresh water fish and sea creatures and dump them into salt water and you get dead fish and sea creatures.
...so are some forrests when they havent been submerged for long, or very deeply!
According to Genesis the flood waters were on the earth for 150 days. Submerge fertile soil in salt water for 6 months and you pollute the ground water and destroy the lands ability to grow anything.
Is it not reasonable, then, to think a lot of the Great Flood legends are dim memories of an actual flood whose waters covered the entire surface of the earth?
The Black Sea scenario is the more likely as the origin for the great flood story that can be ascribed to virtually all religions. For ancient peoples their entire world was the small area with which they were familiar and had travelled. Most people spent their entire lives within a 25-50 mile area. When their part of the world flooded then to them indeed the entire world was flooded.
Here we go again!
Haven't you read the new edition?
Big difference between melting ice glaciers and rain. (But the evolutionists need their story to fit in nicely).
There are a lot of numbers for mere storytelling - or is God creating a time line of events and history?
- "upon the earth an hundred and fifty days"
- "Fifteen cubits upwards"
- "forty days and forty nights"
- "six hundredth year...second month...seventeenth day..."
- "in the tenth month , on the first day"
- "and in the second month, on the seven and twentieth day of the month"
- "in the six hundredth and first year, in the first month , the first day of the month" - "thou shall take to thee by sevens...not clean by two"
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