Posted on 11/18/2007 8:41:55 PM PST by Jim Robinson
When you think about it, its nothing new for Mitt Boy. Remember, Romney didnt support Reagan`s conservative agenda of the 1980`s and even opposed the Contract With America.
The two biggest political efforts to advance conservatism in America covering the last 80 years and Romney opposed them both.
“The two biggest political efforts to advance conservatism in America covering the last 80 years and Romney opposed them both.”
That was two year ago...now he’s for everything he was against. ; p
Yep, it’s just a tax, farmed out to insurance companies.
Giving this site an enema, to extend the metaphor, would involve revoking your account.
In addition to making health insurance mandatory (taking away tax deductions for those who dont buy insurance), the legislation Gov. Romney signed expanded the states Medicaid rolls, levies a $295 per-employee fee on businesses that dont offer health insurance, and sets up a government board to approve new health plans.
Almost immediately after the bill creating it was signed into law, the Wall Street Journal ran an op-ed, which claimed that, under RomneyCare, the state is forcing people to buy insurance many will need subsidies to afford, which is a recipe for higher taxes and more government intervention down the road.
RomneyCare is not even been fully implemented yet, and a cost overrun of $151 million in 2007 alone is already in the cards, perhaps because the RomneyCare financial model assumed the wrong number of uninsured in Massachusetts (the Census Bureau puts it at 748,000, but RomneyCare assumes only 500,000). But any needed hike in taxes wont be pushed through by Romneyhell be out of office when the bill comes due, and when extra federal dollars will likely have to be allocated to Massachusetts to help cover the shortfall between RomneyCares cost and its budget.
And RomneyCare is reliant on federal funds. So imagine if, as Romney hopes, it is replicated in other states. Even if we do not have federally-mandated universal healthcare a la HillaryCare, we could easily end up with that options badly behaved little brotherstate-specific universal healthcare, funded in large part, and at greater than current levels, by the federal government.
That matters because it means more government intrusion into personal healthcare choices. Government will end up funding healthcare at a higher level, and in exchange, making mandates about the kind of coverage you must have, and who may treat you (RomneyCare mandates that individuals must purchase HMO coverage; PPO coverage, often better and more flexible, is not allowed). Moreover, government will end up dictating to businesses and requiring them to incur potentially great costs: RomneyCare mandates that employers with more than 10 workers must assume ultimate financial responsibility if employees or their immediate family members need expensive medical care, and that if such businesses do not insure their employees, they must pay a $295 per uninsured employee fee to subsidize healthcare costs. This threatens employment levels and discourages small businesses from growing.
Ultimately, the entire specter of government engagement in the realm of healthcare hits at a fundamental question. Is healthcare and health itself primarily an individual responsibility, the product of individual choices made in consideration of private matters, or is it a benefit to be assured by the government, without regard to the wishes of the individual?
Only an individual can know what their objectives are in terms of health and how best to ensure that they are met. For example, someone with a rare and difficult-to-treat illness may wish to carry PPO insurance, rather than HMO insurance. PPO insurance generally affords access to a wider range of physicians and treatments, yet RomneyCare bans taking it out. Alternatively, someone earning $30,000 a yeartoo much to be eligible for state-subsidized insurance under RomneyCaremight want to buy cheap, basic coverage, instead of insurance costing around $3,600 annually for an individual and $11,000 annually for a family, plus 10%-14% annual inflation on premiums. But buying cheaper, more basic insurance is not possibleRomneyCare didnt change Massachusetts rules mandating coverage for chiropractic treatment and acupuncture, or allowing purchase on the day of diagnosis, which make insurance there so expensive, compared to less regulated states.
This is the big problem with RomneyCare. It represents an interventionist, big government approach toward what is a highly personal matter, and does virtually nothing to reform burdensome insurance regulation that is responsible for the problem of underinsurance.
Romney disagrees with this characterization. Romney claims that nothing wrong with forcing people via government diktat to purchase health insurance, because states already force people to carry car insurance. But he ignores that it is not standard to require drivers to carry insurance for damage to themselves or their own carsonly for harm done to others. This may be stupid, but so is driving a Yugo, and yet we dont mandate that everyone drive a BMW, do we?
Romney also contends that, since hospitals are required to provide treatment for the uninsured irrespective of their ability to pay, underinsurance is a grave risk and government already is in the position of footing the bill for something that should be a matter of individual responsibility.
Yet, as the Wall Street Journals RomneyCare op-ed notes, the cost of covering the care of uninsured patients is low, and uses a very small proportion of governmental medical budgets. Plus, the uninsured that benefit from emergency-room treatment can always be pursued as debtors, just like people who default on loans.
It is a shame that Romney could identify no more market-friendly options to curb the problem of under-insurance. Surely, in a state where insurance must cover rather exotic treatments, un-mandating coverage for chiropractic treatment and acupuncture as well as in vitro fertilization, could and should have been pursued first. This would have enabled cheaper policies to be marketed in Massachusetts, the number of uninsured to be cut, and for Romney to have legitimately claimed responsibility for meaningful, market-friendly reforms in the realm of healthcaresomething RomneyCare effectively prevents.
And finally, Romney himself has effectively admitted RomneyCare was a disaster, and in ANOTHER flip-flop, abandoned it with another proposal:
http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2007/08/24/romney-abandons-romneycare/
That’s a lot of information, but it’s very important and well worth the read.
I want to thank you for adding it to Jim’s thread.
I certainly have grave doubts about a plan that could be implemented in Massachusetts being right for this country, but in a world where we will soon know every individual's genetic predisposition for disease, we will all eventually be on somebody's "uninsurable" list. Everybody who today pays for their own healthcare is already paying for those on welfare, or Medicare, as costs get shifted from the underpaying to the paying.
We need to discuss making damn good and sure that any reform of healthcare in this country cuts out the attorneys and the other parasites who suck away our healthcare dollars. Hillary and her friends will spend valuable political capital defending the interests of trial lawyers to get rich from suing doctors and hospitals over "s**t happens" sort of things.
We can win this debate, but not if we pretend that it is not an issue.
My pleasure.
Economically, all Romney did was socialize medicine, and deputize insurance companies to be the collectors of the same. The free-riders are subsidized, just as before.
Socially, all Romney did was made sure $50 abortions are available to all.
Yeah, he’s a “conservative.” Blech.
And more calls for censorship. If you can’t win the argument, ban the other side.
I didn’t call for censorship, you did, when you called for that enema of this website.
If you want a pressurized cleansing solution to dislodge you from this site and wash you free, who am I to disagree?
I posted it four whole times. I posted it four times because, I wanted my opinion to be known and plus, I knew it would annoy you. Have a swell day!
Didn’t annoy me a bit...post away.
"It had better be only ONE race"
That’s what I love about you Petronski, you can make a direct, affirmative statement in one post and completely deny it in the next. You have a talent, my friend.
Didn't happen. In both statements, I described what YOU want. The statements do not disagree.
Jim - if you keep this up, the moderators will have to give you a time out like pissant was given. (I’m kidding! I’m kidding! Aren’t you laughing with me?). I miss pissant.
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