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'Nothing in Movies in an Accident' (Michael Medved reviews "Redacted")
Johnny's Dollar Place ^ | 16 Nov 07 | Michael Medved

Posted on 11/19/2007 3:37:30 AM PST by SkyPilot

A very insightful, and mighty smackdown, of Brian De Palma's propaganda movie "Redacted" by Michael Medved.

Listed to review here.

He calls the movie "The worst film I have ever seen."

Medved has been reviewing movies for over 25 years, and certainly knows his subject.

Brian De Palma really layed an egg with this one.

He couldn't even make an effective propaganda movie.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: briandepalma; cuban; hollywood; medved; redacted
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1 posted on 11/19/2007 3:37:31 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

Like MedVed said, what are the chances that the man in charge of the Marines and raped a 14 year old was fat, and oh by the way his name was Rush.


2 posted on 11/19/2007 3:40:40 AM PST by mware
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To: SkyPilot

Blatantly transparent. DePalma must think all US movie goers are dumber than a stump.


3 posted on 11/19/2007 3:44:31 AM PST by Dudoight
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To: Dudoight

I hear Lions for Lambs finally crack 10 million at the box office. After what? 10 days?


4 posted on 11/19/2007 3:47:15 AM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: SkyPilot
Redacted grossed $21,666 over the weekend. When a movie grosses under twenty-two thousand dollars over the opening weekend, I would say that no smack-downs are required. Nobody even bothered to go see how bad it was. They already knew.
5 posted on 11/19/2007 3:53:20 AM PST by gridlock (Recycling is the new Religion.)
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To: PeteB570

I wonder when the hollywood glitzy left is going to get it? The only thing I can figure is right brain/left brain dissonance. They are ‘creative’ but their capacity to reason is very minimal.


6 posted on 11/19/2007 3:54:58 AM PST by Dudoight
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To: gridlock

$21000! That is awesomely bad.


7 posted on 11/19/2007 3:56:47 AM PST by agere_contra (Do not confuse the wealth of nations with the wealth of government - FDT)
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To: SkyPilot

Wow! We love these threads about this movie. Almost back to the Brokeback Mountain days. This movie must piss people off big time. I find it funny that only about 1 thousand people even saw this movie and it gives this kind of passion. In a way it is a way to get more people into the theater. Brokeback Mountain would have made about a dollar if not for the discussion about the movie. I hope it does not work for this movie. Although most here won’t go see it in the theater that is for sure.


8 posted on 11/19/2007 3:57:38 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: gridlock

In better news, Bella cracked 1 million dollars. Redacted had how many theaters???


9 posted on 11/19/2007 4:00:29 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: mware

a few minutes of simpering, adolescent fun for Cuban and DiPalma, then years of payback , 3 hours per day, five days per week for Rush. “Don’t pick a fight with someone who buys his ink by the barrel.”


10 posted on 11/19/2007 4:08:38 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: SkyPilot

Movies are made to promote an agenda. The “story line” is there to get us to continue watching, while the true propaganda is subtly poured into our heads full of mush.


11 posted on 11/19/2007 4:16:44 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: SkyPilot

Now now now, be fair.

He says it “COULD BE” the worst movie.

(c;


12 posted on 11/19/2007 4:17:33 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: gridlock
Redacted grossed $21,666 over the weekend.

That's a terrific weekend--for a call-girl! Not so great for a movie.

13 posted on 11/19/2007 4:18:00 AM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
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To: gridlock

This movie might be SO BAD that it won’t even be nominated for an Oscar.


14 posted on 11/19/2007 4:24:17 AM PST by uncitizen
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To: SkyPilot
What is truly astounding is these anti-war types who make these agenda driven movies must no clue how far out of touch they are with America.

I'd be interested to see how these movies fair in other countries.

15 posted on 11/19/2007 5:01:21 AM PST by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: napscoordinator
Redacted opened to very limited release, 13 screens, but even so netted only 1,600 per screen, even with all the promotion. With dismal numbers like that, the chances of wider release are pretty much nil.

This might as well have been a Direct-To-Al Jazeera release.

16 posted on 11/19/2007 5:05:25 AM PST by gridlock (Recycling is the new Religion.)
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To: mware

Wow...that is breathtakingly childish (the fat Rush thing, not your comment).


17 posted on 11/19/2007 5:09:09 AM PST by Wage Slave (Good fences make good neighbors. -- Robert Frost)
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These movies may bomb badly in the USA, but they more than pay for themselves in the “overseas” markets. Expect Redacted, Rendition, Lions/Lambs et al to big big earners in certain EUropean countries and in third world countries in general, especially moslem ones.


18 posted on 11/19/2007 5:12:18 AM PST by Verloona Ti
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To: mware; FreedomCalls

Daniel Stewart Sherman as Specialist B.B. Rush in the film Redacted.

(Thanks, FreedomCalls)

19 posted on 11/19/2007 5:24:25 AM PST by gridlock (Recycling is the new Religion.)
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To: SkyPilot

You know, I’ve seen some bad movies in my time, but I have yet to see one I’d burn the way Medved does this one.


20 posted on 11/19/2007 5:26:41 AM PST by Bat_Chemist (The devil has already outsmarted every "Bright".)
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To: gridlock

The DI’s on the Island would never allow anyone to get off that island in that condition.


21 posted on 11/19/2007 5:28:42 AM PST by mware
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To: mware

That picture says it all, doesn’t it.

It’s a shame DePalma couldn’t work a Globe and Anchor in there, somewhere. You figure a genius like him could have figured that out.


22 posted on 11/19/2007 5:32:51 AM PST by gridlock (Recycling is the new Religion.)
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To: Verloona Ti

Yep! They bomb in USA theaters ... but it is the overseas CD market that they targeted ... a hate USA CD will bring in the money.


23 posted on 11/19/2007 5:33:55 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: gridlock

I didn’t see the movie but did they call the Marine who was called Rush by a nickname Rusty????


24 posted on 11/19/2007 5:36:08 AM PST by mware
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To: Red_Devil 232
Yep! They bomb in USA theaters ... but it is the overseas CD market that they targeted ... a hate USA CD will bring in the money.

You are right on the money. Bin Laden will buy millions of these DVDs.

25 posted on 11/19/2007 5:38:31 AM PST by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: All

This movie was not made to sell in the US, it was made to tarnish the President and the US military in the eyes of the world.
It will do gangbusters when it’s released overseas.


26 posted on 11/19/2007 5:39:57 AM PST by newnhdad
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To: SkyPilot
The left has been making propaganda television and movie shows almost constantly since the 1960s.

This stinker directly attacks the military and our national image.

Many of the more famous offerings habitually attack morality, marriage, family, virginity, parental authority, American traditions etc.

Sometimes the liberal's attack comes in a prettier wrapper than this one, but they are still harmful garbage.

27 posted on 11/19/2007 5:40:30 AM PST by OriginalIntent (Undo the ACLU revision of the Constitution. If you agree with the ACLU revisions, you are a liberal)
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To: gridlock

$21000 wouldn’t even pay the bar bill at DePalma’s presser.


28 posted on 11/19/2007 5:41:00 AM PST by AU72
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To: newnhdad

It was definitely made for a target audience. Unfortunately we are the targets.


29 posted on 11/19/2007 5:41:20 AM PST by mware
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To: newnhdad
This movie was not made to sell in the US

Yes but the only Country that makes these dirt bags rich is the USA.

30 posted on 11/19/2007 5:41:57 AM PST by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM")
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To: mware
I listened to his review on Friday. Wow! Can Hollyweird be more anti-American than this? In one scene a Marine is beheaded in revenge for raping the girl and the audience is on the side of the Iraqi doing the horrible deed.
31 posted on 11/19/2007 5:47:07 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: Dudoight

“DePalma must think all US movie goers are dumber than a stump.”

Perhaps DePalma is not too bright himself, and believes all moviegoers think the same way.


32 posted on 11/19/2007 5:49:03 AM PST by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: uncitizen

“This movie might be SO BAD that it won’t even be nominated for an Oscar.”

Maybe not, “An Inconvenient Truth” won.


33 posted on 11/19/2007 5:50:47 AM PST by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: NavyCanDo
This is mirroring the events were two soldier from the 101st were murdered and mutilated (absent the rape incident).

It isn't bad enough the families have to deal with the loss of their loved one. This swine had to add more grief to the families

34 posted on 11/19/2007 5:52:22 AM PST by mware
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To: gridlock

Now that’s funny! I didn’t know De Palma was making a comedy.


35 posted on 11/19/2007 5:53:52 AM PST by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

not to mention the “association” the slime intended for Rush.

Abraham Lincholn where are you when we need you?


36 posted on 11/19/2007 6:01:52 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: mware
The DI’s on the Island would never allow anyone to get off that island in that condition.

The guy in the picture is wearing an Army uniform, except the color is wrong. At first I thought it might be due to the "rendition" of the colors in the image, but the rest of the color tones seem right. It almost seems like they made up a uniform that almost looks like Marine marpatt, but isn't.

Oh, and the rank tab, and the title "Specialist" is Army-only. So are they defaming the Army or the Marines? They need to be more accurate, so I can either be pissed, or really, really, really pissed.

37 posted on 11/19/2007 6:08:43 AM PST by 300winmag (Life is hard! It is even harder when you are stupid!)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
“Redacted grossed $21,666 over the weekend.”

I somehow don’t think its about the money for these people. Its about about making God-loving, Troop-supporting Americans angry. Its about making people on the Left hate their country and feel ashamed about being an American.

Money?, Thats way down the list of reasons for making movies like this. They may take a beating at the box office, but its their red badge of courage they are happy to accept, just for the opportunity to hurt us where it hurts the most, our love for God and Country.

38 posted on 11/19/2007 6:08:56 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: 300winmag

Figures the Hollywood types do not even know the different uniforms of our armed forceas.


39 posted on 11/19/2007 6:31:11 AM PST by mware
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To: agere_contra

That gross of 21K is beyond awesomely bad!
You’d expect more revenue from a film where you managed to get all your friends and acquaintances to the theaters, and were a novice or zero-profile director with no track record. Yikes, that’s bad. Yes, movies like Lions for Lambs and this one, though very different, are doing poorly because most of the viewing audience has seen through the do-gooder (L for L) and do-badder (R) propaganda devices of the Hollywood “community”.


40 posted on 11/19/2007 6:45:41 AM PST by supremedoctrine ('Happiness makes up in height for what it lacks in length' --Robert Frost)
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To: gridlock

That’s only $21,541 more than I grossed last weekend, and I didn’t even release a movie.


41 posted on 11/19/2007 6:47:55 AM PST by Xenalyte (Can you count, suckas? I say the future is ours . . . if you can count.)
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To: gridlock

These movies are not being made to be profitable inside the USA. They are for the worldwide hateAmerica audience - a world where dvds and videos can be passed from home to home when electricity is available to view them.


42 posted on 11/19/2007 6:50:51 AM PST by maica
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To: Xenalyte
I didn’t even release a movie.

Yeah - what's up with that? How much longer are you going to make us wait? And don't throw a change up and hit us with any of that "Razor's Edge" kinda stuff either.....

43 posted on 11/19/2007 6:52:28 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Hegewisch Dupa
Man oh man, I have been bustin' major ass at the Festival this year!

I gotta say, though, Juana the Mad is my favorite character ever. She engages in quite a bit of unseemly activity, like eating the lovely pine-needle salad her Conquistadors thoughtfully prepared for her.

Also, she has developed a hellacious pair of crazy eyes. Viva los ojos locos!
44 posted on 11/19/2007 7:22:14 AM PST by Xenalyte (Can you count, suckas? I say the future is ours . . . if you can count.)
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To: PeteB570
Lions for Lambs dropped 56% this weekiend over last weekend and it added 1 theater. It is a disaster.

The budget was estimated at $30 million with Cruise and Redford taking a cut in up front pay for a deferred piece of the gross. The word gross is the key. In normal deals the picture must do 2.5 times the budget at box office just to break even. That means at least $75 million for Lions. But, because of Cruise and Redford getting paid out of gross receipts the real number will be closer to $87 million.

Foreign and DVD will not rescue this turkey.

45 posted on 11/19/2007 7:35:16 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: maica; Red_Devil 232
see # 45. regarding Lions for Lambs.

Understand also that a huge chunk of the foreign DVD market is buying boot-leg product. The studios get zip on those.

46 posted on 11/19/2007 7:39:22 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
This movie most definitely is propaganda, and Civilian Irregular Counterpropagandists are Pushing Back
47 posted on 11/19/2007 7:41:57 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Civilian Irregular Information Defense Group http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com)
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To: newnhdad

***This movie was not made to sell in the US, it was made to tarnish the President and the US military in the eyes of the world.
It will do gangbusters when it’s released overseas.***

You are so right on this. Few movies are made for Americans anymore. It is the world audience they play to.


48 posted on 11/19/2007 7:42:15 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: wtc911

The studios get zip on those.

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But the audience still gets the anti-American message, which is the main point of the production.

I happened to see a clip of Meryl Streep on a morning TV show. It must have been on youtube as I don’t turn on morning TV. She was totally inarticulate about this movie. She could not explain what it was about, because telling the truth would not have been very smart, and she was not very adept at waffling.


49 posted on 11/19/2007 8:00:25 AM PST by maica
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Check out the Japanese films The Twilight Samurai and The Hidden Blade. These films obviously deal with Japanese culture, not ours, but the basic stories are like American films used to be. Heroes and heroines you can actually respect and cheer for because they're doing the right thing.
50 posted on 11/19/2007 8:09:19 AM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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