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The end of a sane society? (The word "marriage" is hate speech?)
Townhall/Baptist Press ^ | November 16, 2007 | Kelly Boggs

Posted on 11/19/2007 3:37:52 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The Court of Appeals for the U.S. Ninth Circuit upheld this summer an Oakland, Calif., city government declaration that the phrase "marriage is the foundation of the natural family and sustains family values" was inflammatory and promoted harassment based on so-called sexual orientation. The phrase was also deemed to be homophobic and disruptive.

It seems a few Christian women working for Oakland's city government formed a Good News Employee Association, and in promoting the club, included the aforementioned phrase on a flier. Later, a lesbian worker complained that the flier made her feel "targeted" and "excluded."

Most recently, hate crimes legislation was passed by both chambers of Congress. While the bills specifically address violent crime, many observers believe the legislation could be used to curtail any speech derogatory of homosexuality.

It is clear that homosexual activists and sexual libertines have been successful in pushing their political agendas. It is also becoming obvious that the arguments they have utilized, if pushed to their logical conclusions, absolutely will destroy the America we know and love.

In their effort to force society to accept and celebrate homosexual, bisexual and transgender sexual expression, activists have left the door open for all manner of behavior to be legitimized.

One of the arguments put forth by activists is that sexual deviancy is determined biologically. In spite of the fact that there is not one definitive scientific study to support this claim, sexual activists continue to insist it is an established fact.

I understand that there have been studies that "suggest" that there "could possibly be" a biological component to sexual orientation. But when the results of a scientific study are summed up in words like "might," "may," "suggest" and "possible," it proves nothing.

In spite of the lack of scientific evidence, homosexual activists and sexual libertines continue to insist that all sexual expression -- at least all they are engaged in -- is rooted in biology.

The activist mantra is that people are born homosexual, bisexual or transgender (the wrong sex) and they cannot change. As a result, they should be allowed to act on their biological predilections.

Any suggestion that a person actually might be able to change his or her sexual preference is derided. According to homosexual activists, a person is born with a certain sexual orientation and they will die with that same orientation.

When debating this issue, one of the favorite questions activists pose is, "Why would someone choose to be homosexual, bisexual or transgender?" They argue that acting on aberrant desires results in family and societal rejection as well as discrimination. "No one would choose such a lifestyle," assert the activists.

The aforementioned argument could be used to support the biological basis for pedophilia or even bestiality. Those who seek sexual gratification with children or animals are not only rejected by society, in many cases they are prosecuted under the law. No one, according to the activists, deliberately would choose a lifestyle with such consequences. Therefore, it must be innate.

Most homosexual activists will agree that pedophilia and bestiality are wrong. But on what basis do they justify their conclusion? For a biblical conservative, sexual expression is only legitimate when it occurs between a man and a woman who are married. Anything else is considered wrong. Of course, this sexual ethic is anchored in the Bible.

Homosexual activists and sexual libertines have long since cut themselves loose from any biblical sexual ethic. As such, they have no standard by which to declare that any sexual behavior is wrong. The only arguments the activist can offer against pedophilia and bestiality is that they currently are illegal, and in the case of pedophilia, it harms those who are innocent.

It should be noted there are some activists who support lowering the age of consent so adults can engage in sex with children. There are also those who believe bestiality should not be a criminal offense.

Like all other expressions of sexuality, homosexual activists and sexual libertines insist that transgender individuals are born with their orientation -- men and women born in the wrong bodies.

My only question is that if a people can be born the wrong sex, could they also be born the wrong race? The obvious answer, of course, is no.

The success of homosexual activists and sexual libertines could well be the beginning of the end of a sane American society. Only time will tell if we will return to a sexual ethic anchored in the Bible or continue to drift on a sea of subjective sexual expression. If we do not return, it is only a matter of time until we sink.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: aberrantdesires; ageofconsent; bestiality; bible; bisexual; bisexuality; christianity; christians; conservatism; conservatives; deviancy; discrimination; enda; familyvalues; gaymarriage; gayrights; hatecrimes; homophobes; homosexual; homosexualagenda; homosexualmarriage; judicialactivism; marriage; nambla; ninthcircuit; pedophilia; religion; transgender

1 posted on 11/19/2007 3:37:53 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just when you think you’ve heard it all......unbelievable!


2 posted on 11/19/2007 3:42:37 AM PST by Banjoguy (The stench that surrounds us, emanates from Washington, D.C.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“Hate crimes” will be the banner under which Christianity will be crushed in the United States. For that reason, and several others, I categorically do not support and seek to over turn any and all “hate crime” related laws.

Behavior should be out lawed, not thought or speach.

3 posted on 11/19/2007 3:43:54 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They’re wrong and I won’t abide by it. This “ruling” has no merit with me whatsoever and I’m not concerned by it one bit.


4 posted on 11/19/2007 4:02:15 AM PST by rvoitier
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To: rvoitier

The government is constantly saying that we are too fat. I think they hate fat people.


5 posted on 11/19/2007 4:07:59 AM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Notice where it happened. This represents only a small portion of the USA. Most people are still sane. The radical man-hating feminazis are not.


6 posted on 11/19/2007 4:14:07 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“As a result, they should be allowed to act on their biological predilections.”

Hmmmm..lets see...pedophilia, serial killers, and people who like to roll their crap in little balls all should be encouraged and embraced, according to their logic.

But my “biological prediliction” that moism is disgusting and physically sickening is “wrong”?

Uhnnn, Kemosabe...we in heap big trouble.


7 posted on 11/19/2007 4:35:30 AM PST by Adder (hialb)
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To: Banjoguy

Good News Employee Association

Why didn’t they have this on their own time. I wonder where the flyers were printed. If we are going to complain about wasted government spending then we need to include EVERYTHING. We pick and chose around here.


8 posted on 11/19/2007 4:44:51 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator

I remember hearing about this earlier. If I recall correctly, there was already a ‘diversity’ group or some such pro-lesbian flyers, etc. This was a response to that.


9 posted on 11/19/2007 5:14:55 AM PST by sportutegrl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"a lesbian worker complained that the flier made her feel "targeted" and "excluded"

Seems to me that the lesbian worker may need a shrink to get over her own phobia over the word, "marriage."

Or she could move to MA where the word, "marriage" is embraced by gays and lesbians.

Is anyone else getting tired of these exclusive and self-centered feelings?

10 posted on 11/19/2007 5:17:11 AM PST by xtinct (I was the next door neighbor kid's imaginary friend.)
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To: rvoitier

I believe the Ninth Circuit Court is a bunch of bloviating blowhards and a disruputive force full of hate and insanity. Time to sue THEM.


11 posted on 11/19/2007 5:18:11 AM PST by tioga (Shoveling snow in NY.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Psalm 81:11-13:
But my people would not hearken to my voice; and Israel would none of me.
So I gave them up unto their own hearts' lust: [and] they walked in their own counsels.
Oh that my people had hearkened unto me, [and] Israel had walked in my ways!

12 posted on 11/19/2007 5:22:45 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“a lesbian worker complained that the flier made her feel “targeted” and “excluded.”

Oh, I’ll bet. Another whiner.


13 posted on 11/19/2007 5:47:18 AM PST by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

First they wouldn’t shut up, now they won’t grow up. Is it too much to ask that gays, lesbians, transsexual, transvestites and their ilk at least pretend to be grownups. Part of which is keeping your sexual activities PRIVATE and not getting your pubic hairs in a wad when everyone doesn’t like you oodles, and oodles.

You know what? I liked it when gays and lesbians were in the closet. Those days gave us Oscar Wilde, Noel Coward, Gertrude Stein, Rock Hudson, Farley Granger and a lot of other wonderful talented adult people. Now, well now we got Castro Street, The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, NAMBLA, ACT UP and all the other waaaah groups. So y’all just shut up, grow up and lock up.


14 posted on 11/19/2007 5:51:42 AM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The whole world has slid off its cracker.

I wonder if it's possible to buy real estate on Mars?
15 posted on 11/19/2007 5:57:35 AM PST by LIConFem (Thompson 2008. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter 2008 (VP) Lifetime ACU Rating: 92)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Did GWBush veto the hate crime bill as promised?


16 posted on 11/19/2007 6:09:19 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: napscoordinator
Why didn’t they have this on their own time. I wonder where the flyers were printed. If we are going to complain about wasted government spending then we need to include EVERYTHING. We pick and chose around here.

Yeah, and Churchill and FDR were just as bad as Hitler. How could they criticize Adolf for sending an army into France when they did the same thing? Those guys were notorious for picking and choosing.

No wonder we're losing the culture war. Every time the left uses the federal government to make a power grab, the response of many here is that we should just concede to it, on the grounds that we would have to go to the federal level ourselves to fight it and that would make us "just as bad as them".

Did it ever occur to you that the left already has plenty of employee associations? That being the case, what's wrong with our side having them?

17 posted on 11/19/2007 7:32:14 AM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

George Orwell was obviously lowballing.


18 posted on 11/19/2007 7:36:21 AM PST by purpleraine
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To: lastchance
Is it too much to ask that gays, lesbians, transsexual, transvestites and their ilk at least pretend to be grownups.

Well...yes, because they are at a very low level of development and consciousness. They are stuck with a 9-year-old child's view of sexuality - that boys or girls are "icky" - and they haven't matured enough to embrace the Other. With gay men it's immaturity and fearfulness, for lesbians it is more often a result of sexual abuse in childhood.

Gays and lesbians are wonderful propagandists for their own cause - happy to tell you how much more evolved they are then everyone else around them. But the observable reality is that they are lesser beings than heterosexuals, and they regress further each time a law is passed treating them as children and granting them special indemnification from the realities of life that everyone else has to bear...

19 posted on 11/19/2007 7:43:47 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The liberals and radicals are out to destroy the only people capable of protecting them from the muslim hordes.



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20 posted on 11/19/2007 8:19:38 AM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Your description is perfect. Thanks for the words of wisdom and a very long chuckle.


21 posted on 11/19/2007 8:26:02 AM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: popdonnelly

All fags are.


22 posted on 11/19/2007 8:36:16 AM PST by Vaduz (and just think how clean the cities would become again.)
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To: taxcontrol
[“Hate crimes” will be the banner under which Christianity will be crushed in the United States.]
 
This tactic can be countered by taking the battle onto the secular field of Natural Law - and Evolution.
 
Human Heterosexual reproduction is the result of Billions of years of evolution.  Show me a mammal that reproduces homosexually, naturally. 
 
Observe the rubble of the Greek and Roman societies... 
 
Will biology 101 soon be banned by homosexuals in high places?
 
 
 
 

23 posted on 11/19/2007 9:08:31 AM PST by VxH (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, and Three if by Wire Transfer)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
[Well...yes, because they are at a very low level of development and consciousness.]
 
Their ability to infiltrate the echelons of power and manipulate the system from within indicates otherwise.   "Don't ask don't tell" implicitly promotes this covert behavior.
 
Underestimating them is a serious mistake.

24 posted on 11/19/2007 9:19:14 AM PST by VxH (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, and Three if by Wire Transfer)
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To: taxcontrol

“Hate crimes” will be the banner under which Christianity will be crushed in the United States. For that reason, and several others, I categorically do not support and seek to over turn any and all “hate crime” related laws.

You couldn’t be more right. All hate crimes laws should be abolished.


25 posted on 11/19/2007 9:45:30 AM PST by backwaterball
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bmflr


26 posted on 11/19/2007 10:19:04 AM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: puroresu

Yeah, and Churchill and FDR were just as bad as Hitler. How could they criticize Adolf for sending an army into France when they did the same thing? Those guys were notorious for picking and choosing.

Idiotic explanation. Try again.


27 posted on 11/19/2007 10:54:13 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator
Idiotic explanation. Try again.

It wasn't an explanation, it was an analogy. (rolls eyes)

Given the obvious fact that homosexuals and other leftists are permitted to have employee associations, why is it wrong for a Christian group to have one as well? Are we just supposed to voluntarily refrain from having them because we don't want to act like the liberals by asking for one?

28 posted on 11/19/2007 11:07:35 AM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: puroresu

They can have one but after hours would be better. I know that our bible group does not meet at work, but after work on Wednesday night as a matter of fact. Not one of us have had any problems with going or anyone harassing us because of going. This is the smart and right way to go about a group.


29 posted on 11/19/2007 11:41:22 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wow! Great news! If all aspects of sexuality are genetically driven, then I guess it’s just dandy to get down and dirty with that waitress at the local watering hole. It’s consensual. She’s hot. I’m just following my genetic prediposition for redheads with a balcony you can do Shakespeare from. Oh, yeah, and she’s 17. Well, it’s just my genes talking. Gotta do what you’re programmed to do.


30 posted on 11/19/2007 1:10:27 PM PST by redpoll
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Please Lord can we just have CA slide into the ocean and move on ?

PS I’d settle for the entire left coast.


31 posted on 11/19/2007 2:42:47 PM PST by festus (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wonder if there’s an appeal going on. This court is overridden more often than any others (possibly more than all others put together).


32 posted on 11/19/2007 4:16:27 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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