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Some House Backers of Thompson Are Starting to Lose the Faith
CQ POLITICS ^ | 19 November 2007 | Jonathan Allen, CQ Staff

Posted on 11/19/2007 10:22:45 AM PST by Alter Kaker

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To: tumblindice

LOL


101 posted on 11/19/2007 12:51:20 PM PST by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Greg F

Bit more to it than that.


102 posted on 11/19/2007 12:57:54 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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To: Greg F

I was on the thread, too, and yes, there was.

Is the thread in isolation that big of a deal? No.

It was endless, first post, spamming of anti-Fred stuff, most of which people know to be false.


103 posted on 11/19/2007 12:59:25 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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To: MeanWestTexan

I think it’s easy to unfairly perceive criticism of a candidate as unfair if you support the candidate . . . if you can decode the last sentence . . .


104 posted on 11/19/2007 1:05:52 PM PST by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Kevmo

I really don’t understand why you keep pushing this Intrade nonsense.

Fact is, Intrade is known to you and about 1,456 other voters in the USA.

IOW, not statistically relevant!


105 posted on 11/19/2007 1:09:53 PM PST by Seeking the truth (Queen Hillary faux postage stamps - 0cents.com)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I know. “Unnamed sources” are a red flag.


106 posted on 11/19/2007 1:14:38 PM PST by lesser_satan (READ MY LIPS: NO NEW RINOS | FRED THOMPSON - DUNCAN HUNTER '08)
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To: lesser_satan

Like the janitor : )


107 posted on 11/19/2007 1:16:07 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Seeking the truth

Fact is, Intrade is known to you and about 1,456 other voters in the USA. IOW, not statistically relevant!
***Prediction Markets have proven accurate than polling data.

The Efficacy Of Prediction Markets The Liberty Papers ^ | November 8, 2007 | Brad Warbiany http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1922961/posts

Posted on 11/08/2007 12:21:43 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum


108 posted on 11/19/2007 1:25:50 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: rhombus
These Congressmen have been banned or suspended.

Dry. LOL.
109 posted on 11/19/2007 1:38:53 PM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: ejonesie22
So does that preclude divorce or just infidelity.

Nothing personal, but I was referring to the validity of a persons word. If you have broken a sacred promise normally made in a church " 'til death do us part" it does bring your credibility into question. If you can't keep the most sacred of promises, how can we trust you with a campaign promise???? It all speaks to character.

110 posted on 11/19/2007 1:52:02 PM PST by Retired COB (Still mad about Campaign Finance Reform)
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To: Seeking the truth
IOW, not statistically relevant!

IMO, it's not much different than FR polls and endorsements. The 4,000 or so members and lurkers who vote in the polls, argue vociferously on every thread about their candidate (or contentiously on every thread about an alternate candidate) are statistically irrelevant.

At times it's challenging not to get caught up in the heat of the moment. But, the reality is that whatever we post here isn't going to make a bit of difference at the end of the day.

111 posted on 11/19/2007 1:52:30 PM PST by lonevoice (It's always "Apologize to a Muslim Hour"...somewhere)
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To: Greg F

Duncan Hunter is a good man.

And that still leaves us Giuliani, Romney, or Huckabee.


112 posted on 11/19/2007 1:55:48 PM PST by AFA-Michigan
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To: rhombus
These Congressmen have been banned or suspended.

Only if they support Giuliani.

113 posted on 11/19/2007 1:56:07 PM PST by CommerceComet
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To: Retired COB

So everyone who has been divorced is suspect and not fit for office.

That’s what I am hearing, correct?


114 posted on 11/19/2007 1:56:48 PM PST by ejonesie22 (ROMNEY HOCKS! (hey, he's spent a lot of his own cash so far...))
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To: napscoordinator

There was an article posted here Sunday that covered the Gallup poll and I am sure a search on FR will yield it.

LLS


115 posted on 11/19/2007 1:58:08 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: napscoordinator

There was an article posted here Sunday that covered the Gallup poll and I am sure a search on FR will yield it.

LLS


116 posted on 11/19/2007 1:58:10 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: rhombus
These Congressmen have been banned or suspended.

Not enough! All articles from CQ Politics should be banned, and anyone who attempts to post articles from CQ Politics should be banned for such scurrilous behavior!

117 posted on 11/19/2007 1:58:38 PM PST by lonevoice (It's always "Apologize to a Muslim Hour"...somewhere)
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To: Alter Kaker
Every campaign goes through lulls. I wouldn't get very worked up about this just yet, although I've been on record as saying Thompson's relative inactivity has made me nervous.

Fred could lose a lot of support after Iowa if he shows poorly and Huckabee does very well.

118 posted on 11/19/2007 2:00:05 PM PST by CommerceComet
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To: lonevoice
! All articles from CQ Politics should be banned, and anyone who attempts to post articles from CQ Politics should be banned for such scurrilous behavior!

Uh, thanks. :-)

119 posted on 11/19/2007 2:06:39 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker
The following folks have endorsed Fred Thompson. I struck out the names of those who spoke on the record. Who do y'all think spoke to Congressional Quarterly off the record, stabbing Thompson in the back?

Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.)
Sen. Thad Cochran (R-Miss.)
Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.)
Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.)
Rep. Gresham Barrett (R-S.C.)
Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.)
Rep. Dan Burton (R-Ind.)
Rep. Steve Buyer (R-Ind.)
Rep. David Davis (R-Tenn.)
Rep. John Duncan (R-Tenn.)
Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas)
Rep. Don Manzullo (R-Ill.)
Rep. Thaddeus McCotter (R-Mich.)
Rep. Jeff Miller (R-Fla.)
Rep. Sue Myrick (R-N.C.)
Rep. Adam Putnam (R-Fla.)
Rep. Lee Terry (R-Neb.)
Rep. John Sullivan (R-Okla.)
Rep. Zach Wamp (R-Tenn.)
Rep. Lynn Westmoreland (R-Ga.)
Rep. Roger Wicker (R-Miss.)

120 posted on 11/19/2007 2:12:37 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

It doesn’t matter who is voicing a few misgivings. They picked Fred, I think they should go ahead and back him.

This kind of whining and regrets, if genuine, is a little too self-serving.


121 posted on 11/19/2007 2:24:26 PM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: Alter Kaker

....what a weak “Hit” piece.....


122 posted on 11/19/2007 2:55:16 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you....Run, Fred, Run. :^)
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To: Greg F

and betamax was a good video format...


123 posted on 11/19/2007 3:23:03 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Alter Kaker

considering the professor has a left wing bias, it is a very limp wristed hit piece.


124 posted on 11/19/2007 3:25:13 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Greg F; Jim Robinson
LOL. I’d say banning people for posting things critical of Fred makes him a FRedHead! I think it’s a mistake to be partisan for a particular candidate in primaries, to that extent, when you run a site like Free Republic, but it’s his site.

**************

Courtesy ping.

125 posted on 11/19/2007 3:27:46 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: longtermmemmory
and betamax was a good video format...

LOL . . . I'm going to break it to you . . . but if you are looking for a conservative nominee then you may be making fun of your own aspirations, since Thompson and Tancredo are the other conservatives in the race besides Hunter and they are both looking like longshots as well. I say that giving Thompson the benefit of the doubt in regard to his basic conservatism on the issues of immigration and trade. Thompson's campaign may be in a "lull" as another poster put it, but I was worried about him as a candidate when he was freezing support for guys like Hunter before he announced, and my worries seem to be bearing out. I support Hunter because he is the best man in the country for the office of President, in my opinion. I can't think of another man I would rather have be President and it has been a long time since I felt that way about a candidate.

126 posted on 11/19/2007 3:41:57 PM PST by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: trisham; jimrob

I think you are right, I should have pinged JimRob on that. Thank you and apologies to Jim.


127 posted on 11/19/2007 3:43:29 PM PST by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: trisham; Jim Robinson

I think you are right, I should have pinged Jim Robinson on that. Thank you and apologies to Jim.


128 posted on 11/19/2007 3:44:39 PM PST by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Greg F

Bump! Agreed!


129 posted on 11/19/2007 4:04:44 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (AmericanInTokyo; Count THIS Freeper as solidly behind DUNCAN HUNTER 2008!!!)
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To: pillut48

Looks like he’s smelling something bad. A real cheerful, optimistic, attractive candidate. The perpetual hangdog expression is a real winner.


130 posted on 11/19/2007 5:26:53 PM PST by WestSylvanian
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To: napscoordinator
The latest gallup poll ended 11/14 so it did not have the NRLC endorsement in the numbers

Freeper discussion on the latest Gallup Poll
131 posted on 11/19/2007 6:39:45 PM PST by Fred (The Democrat Party is the Nadir of Nilhilism)
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To: Greg F

True as a definition goes. You are correct. But, we could actually win the election and still have an opening for conservative agendas depending on the ticket: Mitt, Rudy , even John would have to pick a conservative to have a chance at holding the South. In reality, only Rudy could be the only guy to pull that off. John has tricked the BASE too long. Mitt is an OK guy, good on economics but national security: who knows? Rudy is at best a moderate, whatever that is. But, he could win. Hil would be in trouble in many blue and purple states and if Rudy picked a S.conser or W. conserv for the VP, he could edge her out. Anybody but a Dem for me, my friend.


132 posted on 11/19/2007 8:00:12 PM PST by phillyfanatic
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To: ejonesie22
"He has had one wife" You guys keep bringing that up. Do you have a problem with those of us who have been married more than once?

No problem per se. We just know that any little personal item will be meat for the grinder by the Democrats & lib-media especially when gay marriage comes up, as if they have a hoot n holler to do with one another, but there ya go. It will be used, valid or not, to lob a hypocrisy charge. Dems will do anything to win. We also know that a personal life example that is a bit better than the Clintons wouldn't hurt.

133 posted on 11/19/2007 9:42:37 PM PST by WOSG (Pro-life, pro-family, pro-freedom, pro-strong defense, pro-GWOT, pro-capitalism, pro-US-sovereignty)
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To: WOSG
Maybe so, but not at the expense of conservatism.

Also I think Fred’s situation has been above reproach. Divorce is common now, and since there has been no sign of infidelity on Thompson’s part, he stands head and shoulders above the Clintons.

134 posted on 11/19/2007 9:58:48 PM PST by ejonesie22 (ROMNEY HOCKS! (hey, he's spent a lot of his own cash so far...))
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To: ejonesie22
So everyone who has been divorced is suspect and not fit for office.

Yes to the first part, and no to the second. It has to be considered as part of the overall package. A person does not get a pass from me for lying under oath - however I do believe in redemption.

I have a serious problem with folks that have multiple marriages. One divorce can be a result of bad judgement...multiple divorces indicate bad character.

135 posted on 11/20/2007 4:55:09 AM PST by Retired COB (Still mad about Campaign Finance Reform)
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To: ejonesie22

Actually I am. Fred is younger than Reagan at the sametime in this game and Reagan did quite well...

Oh come on. Ronald Reagan looked like Mitt Romney. Youthful and energetic. Nobody would have thought Ronald Reagan looked old. Horrible comparison if you want your point to be taken.


136 posted on 11/20/2007 5:00:42 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Retired COB
Ok, so when one is divorced they lied under oath. I can see that to some degree I guess. Indeed I did not lie about my oath, I took it in all seriousness. My ex wife was the one with the issues after the fact, so I was left with limited choices. I don’t feel like I lied at all.

I wanted to explore this because of the topic (Fred) and the fact that it has never been said he cheated on his ex wife. So the divorce seems to be “legit” from a fidelity stand point (ie not the cause). He also seems quite happy and satisfied in his current marriage and blessed with two children

So I want to avoid the implication that Fred cheated and also the implication that divorcees are not fit for office.

Remember, Reagan too was twice married, and he worked out pretty could for our conservative cause. Not comparing the men but the circumstance.

137 posted on 11/20/2007 6:17:58 AM PST by ejonesie22 (ROMNEY HOCKS! (hey, he's spent a lot of his own cash so far...))
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To: napscoordinator

I think it is a solid comparison. Both men were in the same age group, both actors with presence and ability. Maybe Fred should get some Mitt hair, will that help? I often times find hair styles as the single most determining factor in my candidate.

Of course that would make him like Mitt as well, though only Fred’s hair would be fake...


138 posted on 11/20/2007 6:23:53 AM PST by ejonesie22 (ROMNEY HOCKS! (hey, he's spent a lot of his own cash so far...))
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To: Sun; 8mmMauser; Dante3; wagglebee

Ping. As if FV’s the only person hvg doubts about Fred. These are elected officials! The smearization of FV is officially OVER.


139 posted on 11/20/2007 8:00:26 AM PST by floriduh voter (Terri Schindler Schiavo unwillingly gave her life to become a debate question.)
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To: Greg F

bttt. You are on the right track. No flip flopping in your politics.


140 posted on 11/20/2007 8:02:59 AM PST by floriduh voter (Terri Schindler Schiavo unwillingly gave her life to become a debate question.)
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To: Alter Kaker

http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_272617225.shtml#


141 posted on 11/20/2007 8:16:18 AM PST by floriduh voter (Terri Schindler Schiavo unwillingly gave her life to become a debate question.)
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To: napscoordinator

Pro-lifers are splintered at this point. NRTL is not the only game in town any longer and they may have gotten too big for their own britches. Their endorsement has less clout than in the past. NRTL is losing support as an organization.


142 posted on 11/20/2007 8:20:48 AM PST by floriduh voter (Terri Schindler Schiavo unwillingly gave her life to become a debate question.)
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To: WestSylvanian

What are you, 12, LOL? :-)


143 posted on 11/21/2007 3:47:11 PM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud RUSH REPUBLICAN! WIN, FRED, WIN!!!)
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