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Some House Backers of Thompson Are Starting to Lose the Faith
CQ POLITICS ^ | 19 November 2007 | Jonathan Allen, CQ Staff

Posted on 11/19/2007 10:22:45 AM PST by Alter Kaker

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To: ejonesie22

Actually I was in the thread when it happened. There was no more to it than that.


51 posted on 11/19/2007 11:23:10 AM PST by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Alter Kaker

Fred has two chances to win the nomination.
The first is to catch fire in the primaries.
The second is as a compromise choice if no one gets a majority of the delegates in the primaries.
A Presidential nominating convention hasn’t gone past the first ballot since 1952. but this year the Republicans might do it.


52 posted on 11/19/2007 11:23:16 AM PST by devere
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To: TLI

LOL. I’d say banning people for posting things critical of Fred makes him a FRedHead! I think it’s a mistake to be partisan for a particular candidate in primaries, to that extent, when you run a site like Free Republic, but it’s his site.


53 posted on 11/19/2007 11:25:06 AM PST by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: bruinbirdman; All
MUST BE A UNNAMED RINO.... HUH?

WE'RE STILL GOING TO SEND FRED A THANKSGIVING DAY GIFT!



Click Here!

54 posted on 11/19/2007 11:27:00 AM PST by W04Man (I'm Now With Fred http://Vets4Fred.net)
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To: Alter Kaker

Lots of use of words like “several” and “sources say” and all that...


55 posted on 11/19/2007 11:28:16 AM PST by RockinRight (Just because you're pro-life and talk about God a lot doesn't mean you're a conservative.)
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To: Greg F
Yikes, I missed that, I thought it was just RG supporters, information, and pro dialog that was banned?

Good reason to stay off primary "debate" on candidates threads, sad.

56 posted on 11/19/2007 11:28:41 AM PST by roses of sharon
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To: Greg F
They call me Mr. Robinson ...


57 posted on 11/19/2007 11:29:47 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Kimberly GG

I dunno. I in fact haven’t heard a peep from George P. Bush.


58 posted on 11/19/2007 11:30:27 AM PST by RockinRight (Just because you're pro-life and talk about God a lot doesn't mean you're a conservative.)
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To: Alter Kaker
Thompson/Hunter in '08. Hunter/unknown in '16.

Thompson's name recognition gets them in office and Hunter's conservatism keeps them on the right track.
59 posted on 11/19/2007 11:30:54 AM PST by fr_freak
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To: RightResponse

Fred Thompson...born August 19, 1942. Will be 66 on Election Day.

Ronald Reagan...born Feb. 6, 1911, elected in Nov. 1980...age 69.

Reagan must’ve been too old too, right?


60 posted on 11/19/2007 11:31:41 AM PST by RockinRight (Just because you're pro-life and talk about God a lot doesn't mean you're a conservative.)
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To: the808bass

After the stunt CNN pulled at the LV debate, planting questions AND planting questioners that were advertised as ‘undecided voters’, one wonders what credibility any news media outlet has anymore?

CNN has certainly defined for us, forever, what their definition of an ‘undecided’ voter is. Go back an look at EVERY election poll they’ve done for the last ten years, and then look at the six people they planted in the audience of that debate.

FDT is going to be fine. Huckabee is putting his foot in it, in my opinion. I think his Chuck Norris ad is funny, but he’s not running for Comedian in Chief.

That’s Harry Reid’s job, in my opinion, and the man has a competitive streak.


61 posted on 11/19/2007 11:32:37 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: W04Man

I’ve already pledged, but unless we get a heckuva lot more pledges than the present 74, this thing’s going to hurt Fred’s campaign more than help it.


62 posted on 11/19/2007 11:33:04 AM PST by eastsider
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To: rhombus

If only we could ban or suspend all those who oppose our candidate from voting, we’d win by a landslide.


63 posted on 11/19/2007 11:34:09 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Greg F; jimrob; All

I was on the several he was on. He was making an ass out of himself through several and he was warned. Jim just did not yank him without cause and you know better, so don’t play out host like that.


64 posted on 11/19/2007 11:34:27 AM PST by ejonesie22 (ROMNEY HOCKS! (hey, he's spent a lot of his own cash so far...))
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To: RockinRight

That’s different, he liked Reagan...


65 posted on 11/19/2007 11:35:34 AM PST by ejonesie22 (ROMNEY HOCKS! (hey, he's spent a lot of his own cash so far...))
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To: CharlesWayneCT
If only we could ban or suspend all those who oppose our candidate from voting, we’d win by a landslide.

That's the spirit, comrade. ;-)

66 posted on 11/19/2007 11:35:37 AM PST by rhombus
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To: Alter Kaker

Wimps and whiners.


67 posted on 11/19/2007 11:39:07 AM PST by Fred (The Democrat Party is the Nadir of Nilhilism)
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To: ejonesie22

It’s a positive. We can’t help it if posting something positive about a candidate makes others who don’t share that trait uncomfortable.

When someone notes that Fred Thompson is 6ft-6, I don’t complain because I’m much shorter.

I remember when Barbara Bush introduced her husband as a “man of integrity” at the 1996 convention, and the democrats complained she was taking a swipe at Bill Clinton (who apparently they knew was not).

It was like you weren’t allowed to say your own husband had integrity because it would make others feel bad.


68 posted on 11/19/2007 11:40:48 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: ejonesie22

Reagan had gravitas... Thompson flaps his gums and will lose his teeth at some point if not careful.

Forget about the numerical age, if you will..


69 posted on 11/19/2007 11:45:19 AM PST by RightResponse (It depends on what the defamation of Islam is .....)
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To: DoughtyOne

We’re two plus months away from the primary and folks are throwing in the towel. I guess we needn’t hold elections anymore.

We are???? Sorry but we are about 44 days until the primaries.


70 posted on 11/19/2007 11:46:52 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Alter Kaker
Some of Thompson’s endorsers say they aren’t lifting a finger. “I’ve kind of pulled back. I’m not not supporting him, but I’m not doing anything,” said a third lawmaker.

Then get the Hell out of my foxhole you panzy!
71 posted on 11/19/2007 11:48:18 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Yes it may well be a plus for him personally.

I am not uncomfortable, except perhaps in the implication that those of us who have been married twice are less capable, not as good a Christian or what have you.

It would be less of an issue if I had not seen that used here in the exact context of talking about Fred vs. Hunter.

72 posted on 11/19/2007 11:48:35 AM PST by ejonesie22 (ROMNEY HOCKS! (hey, he's spent a lot of his own cash so far...))
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To: LibLieSlayer

Gallup and new polls being released show Fred surging after the latest announcements of endorsements.

Can you give some threads. I am most interested in seeing if he received the additional support form the pro-lifers. This week I believe are very important polls for Fred.


73 posted on 11/19/2007 11:48:46 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: RightResponse

Riiiight...

You go with that theory....


74 posted on 11/19/2007 11:49:19 AM PST by ejonesie22 (ROMNEY HOCKS! (hey, he's spent a lot of his own cash so far...))
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To: napscoordinator
“I think he’s kind of done a belly flop,” said an estranged Thompson backer who indicated he will not pull his public support before the “Super Tuesday” primaries. “We’ll just wait till after Feb. 5 because I think he’s going to get beat.”

My wording wasn't precise, but this is what I was addressing.

75 posted on 11/19/2007 11:56:31 AM PST by DoughtyOne (California, where the death penalty is reserved for wholesome values. SB 777)
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To: DoughtyOne

Sorry. I really wasn’t trying to be nasty just exact on time. The reason is because I can’t believe that we begin this process so soon and really the conservatives are not even backing one candidate. We are more split then ever. If we don’t watch ourselves than Guiliani will get it. Three conservatives Hunter, Thompson, and Huck can take a lot of the votes but if they are being voted on from the same people that is great news for G.


76 posted on 11/19/2007 11:59:02 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: All
Fred Thompson's popularity is gradually increasing as he lays out his positions.

The congressional backers apparently aren’t noticing yet.

THEY WILL!

77 posted on 11/19/2007 11:59:32 AM PST by msnpatriot
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To: Pyro7480

JimRob got mad that Pissant was posting spam attacks on Thompson on EVERY thread, instead of supporting his candidate.

I believe it was temporary, but then someone then spammed everyone pretending to be a Thompson supporter -— probably Pissant (no evidence of this from me, but timing).


78 posted on 11/19/2007 12:00:32 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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To: ejonesie22

Reagan was too old, too! Post presidency medical reports prove that. (However, he was a great president for nearly the entirety of his terms) There, are you happy?

Thompson is too old to win enough of the vote.


79 posted on 11/19/2007 12:03:20 PM PST by RightResponse (It depends on what the defamation of Islam is .....)
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To: ejonesie22
Do you have a problem with those of us who have been married more than once?

I don't have a problem with that, as I am on my second wife. I do, however, have a problem with people who do not keep their marriage vows - it speaks volumes about their character.

BTW, I was widowed so my second marriage is legit.

80 posted on 11/19/2007 12:05:22 PM PST by Retired COB (Still mad about Campaign Finance Reform)
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To: napscoordinator
Sorry. I really wasn’t trying to be nasty just exact on time. The reason is because I can’t believe that we begin this process so soon and really the conservatives are not even backing one candidate. We are more split then ever. If we don’t watch ourselves than Guiliani will get it. Three conservatives Hunter, Thompson, and Huck can take a lot of the votes but if they are being voted on from the same people that is great news for G.

I didn't take it that way at all.  You were correct and should have made the point.  As for narrowing it down, I wish folks could see their way clear to do so, but try suggesting it and watch how the thread disintitgrates from there.

All I can say on the subject is that if Giuliani is the stand bearer for the Republican Party, I won't be voting for a presidential candidate in November 2008.  This is one guy who has voted for his last Republican RINO.

Republicans can either listen to that and heed the warning or cry in their spilled milk when reality sinks in.

81 posted on 11/19/2007 12:08:11 PM PST by DoughtyOne (California, where the death penalty is reserved for wholesome values. SB 777)
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To: RightResponse

He’s 2 years older than Rudy, 5 years older than Mitt, and 6 years older than Hunter.

He’s also 6 years YOUNGER than McCain...so what does that leave us with?


82 posted on 11/19/2007 12:09:20 PM PST by RockinRight (Just because you're pro-life and talk about God a lot doesn't mean you're a conservative.)
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To: RightResponse

Have you read the book that addresses Reagan’s diary?


83 posted on 11/19/2007 12:10:33 PM PST by DoughtyOne (California, where the death penalty is reserved for wholesome values. SB 777)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

Sort of like Fred?


84 posted on 11/19/2007 12:12:04 PM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: DoughtyOne

I agree with you 100 percent. I will skip voting for the President if it is Guiliani. We will be vilified even here on FR but I am holding that promise and don’t care who blasts me. However, let’s hope that it does not come down to that.


85 posted on 11/19/2007 12:12:59 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Pyro7480

Banned indefinitely.


86 posted on 11/19/2007 12:14:47 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (“We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!” --Duncan Hunter)
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To: DoughtyOne
>>>>>Have you read the book that addresses Reagan’s diary?

Revealing look into the Reagan Presidency.

Reagan In His Own Hand is still my favorite.

87 posted on 11/19/2007 12:16:00 PM PST by Reagan Man
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To: RockinRight

Just so you all know... I’m not against Thompson. He just doesn’t seem energetic enough for me. He looks ‘older’ than all of them (except maybe he ties with McCain, whom I will excuse).

If Thompson were to really crank it up like he wants it, I would prefer him over Giuliani and possibly over anyone. I’m not against his ideas.

Just don’t treat those of us who desperately want to keep Hillary et.al. out of the White House, like people who would be interrupting your next crap.


88 posted on 11/19/2007 12:21:07 PM PST by RightResponse (It depends on what the defamation of Islam is .....)
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To: RightResponse

Actually I am. Fred is younger than Reagan at the sametime in this game and Reagan did quite well...


89 posted on 11/19/2007 12:22:27 PM PST by ejonesie22 (ROMNEY HOCKS! (hey, he's spent a lot of his own cash so far...))
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To: napscoordinator

I agree with your thoughts here.

I don’t know what else to do to get it through the thick heads of the powers that be in the R.P. As far as I am concerned the party is dead if it can’t get it’s act together and start representing the views of the Conservatives who have supported it.

Every phone call I get, every survey I get, I lay it on thick that they have driven into the ditch and better get back on track.

Right now I limit my comments to the border. When I get a call I tell them that they can call back after the fence is up and our borders enforced. Until then they don’t get a dime or a vote. That’s a little overboard, but that seems to be what it’s going to take.

Generally they get out a, “Yeah but...” before I hang up on them.


90 posted on 11/19/2007 12:22:58 PM PST by DoughtyOne (California, where the death penalty is reserved for wholesome values. SB 777)
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To: RightResponse

I want Hillary out too.

I’m just not convinced that Thompson’s not the best one to do it.

Rudy? Blech. I’ll vote for him in a pinch against Hillary, no doubt...but what do we get? A liberal who wants to kill terrorists. Sh*t, Joe Lieberman would do that.


91 posted on 11/19/2007 12:24:16 PM PST by RockinRight (Just because you're pro-life and talk about God a lot doesn't mean you're a conservative.)
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To: Reagan Man

It was my understanding that the book laid to rest the charge that he was medically unfit by the end of his second term. After reading it, do you differ with my thoughts on that?


92 posted on 11/19/2007 12:24:46 PM PST by DoughtyOne (California, where the death penalty is reserved for wholesome values. SB 777)
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To: Greg F

He’s old, he’s tired, he’s inevitable. In the primary I’m voting for Hunter regardless, and then I’ll hold my nose and cast an unenthusiastic vote for whichever draft-dodger and/or adulterer the party nominates. The whole process reminds me more and more of 1976. The only silver lining to it is that there was a November 1980.


93 posted on 11/19/2007 12:26:25 PM PST by MSF BU
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To: ejonesie22
Yes. I noticed that the disillusioned lawmakers spoke “anonymously”. So were they ever backers or were the comments even real?

Fred is on his way up in the polls. He had a great week last week and his weekend interview with Pip Squeak, who tossed him hard questions, was top notch. I guess those who were hoping he was fading are going to have to start sniping at him again.

94 posted on 11/19/2007 12:26:30 PM PST by Route66 (America's Main Street - - - President Fred D. Thompson /"The Constitution means what is says.")
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To: Greg F

I think the only question regarding Tancredo is who he will endorse when he drops out. I’m surprised a guy who who was deemed too nervous for military service sees himself up to the job of CINC.


95 posted on 11/19/2007 12:28:14 PM PST by MSF BU
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To: Alter Kaker

Several House Republicans who endorsed Fred Thompson for president now say that they are frustrated with what they view as an apathetic campaign, and at least one regrets having committed to the former Tennessee senator.

***What has Fred done with a positive spotlight and name recognition? He has squandered what was once the lead on Intrade and lost ~30 points coming in behind McCain, Ron Paul and Huckabee. 30 Points! That is evidence that he’s a real lousy campaigner. Fred is also losing ground in the polls. In that same time period, Hunter has been slowly inching upward in the polls and now his contracts have started to move at Intrade. The market smells a bargain for Hunter’s futures contracts.

Hunter is the better man and now he’s emerging from Fred’s shadow as the better campaigner. Yesterday Hunter’s Ask Price doubled. His contracts have started to move after having been stagnant for many weeks. I attribute it to the “Smart Money” article that I wrote on Free Republic and copied over at the forum on Intrade.

Let me ask you a question.
If Hunter passes Thompson at Intrade, should Thompson supporters switch their support at that time? We needed to ask similar questions when Thompson was in the lead at Intrade and suggest that if he were to drop by more than 25 points, would they switch their support? No one did ask the question, but if they had, we would have gotten to hold those Freepers to their word. So now I’m asking what in a Thompson supporter’s mind is probably something out of the realm of possibility. If Hunter passes Thompson at Intrade, should Thompson supporters switch their support ? If you’re a Thompson supporter, will you give your support at that time? I’m just trying to bump Hunter up to 4 or 5% at Intrade, since he is at 4% in the polls. Thompson is at ~6%. So in your mind this is probably not possible but in the Hunter followers’ minds it is quite possible. It’s a yes or no question. Please, no hemming and hawing, no nonsense about how it’s such an impossible event that it’s not worth bothering over. Losing 29 points at Intrade was considered an impossible event when he had the lead, so please don’t pretend that one is possible and the other isn’t.

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Why the smart money is on Duncan Hunter
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1926032/posts
Posted on 11/15/2007 3:43:17 AM PST by Kevmo


96 posted on 11/19/2007 12:33:16 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Greg F

The ants go marching two by two—
Hurrah! Hurrah!
The ants go marching two by two—
Hurrah! Hurrah!

The ants go marching two by two,
the little one stops to tie his shoe
and they all go marching down,
to the ground,
to get out,
of the rain:
and to rescue Pissant.


97 posted on 11/19/2007 12:35:06 PM PST by tumblindice (If we all agreed, all the time, this would be...........DemoKratikal Underground)
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To: Retired COB

So does that preclude divorce or just infiedelity. I ask because of your last statement about being widowed and your current being legit.

I am divorced not due to adultry but other issues. I never cheater before or during the divorce.

Sounds like Fred didn’t either.


98 posted on 11/19/2007 12:41:04 PM PST by ejonesie22 (ROMNEY HOCKS! (hey, he's spent a lot of his own cash so far...))
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To: DoughtyOne
The thought never crossed my mind while I was reading the book. In fact, I never took the accusations about Reagan being mentally unfit seriously. The charges we're unfounded and absurd, and based on liberal media fabrication. From the books beginning to its end, Reagan's writings were extremely consistent in context. This was short narratives on the daily events during his time in office. Being a persoanl dairy, the structure was short and sweet.

Having said that. When most people get into their 70`s, old age starts catching up with their physical and mental capabilities. Reagan was hard of hearing, liked his afternoon naps, his jellybeans, liked a movie and loved to spend time with his wife. Sounds normal to me.

99 posted on 11/19/2007 12:42:56 PM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Reagan Man

I didn’t believe them either, but there are times when it’s nice to know there is definitive proof of things you believe to be true. I believed Reagan was still in control until he left office, and it gripes me to see people claim otherwise as the poster did up this thread.


100 posted on 11/19/2007 12:46:50 PM PST by DoughtyOne (California, where the death penalty is reserved for wholesome values. SB 777)
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