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Chavez, Ahmadinejad to work against US (time to bomb Venezuela?)
AP ^ | 11/19/07 | NASSER KARIMI

Posted on 11/19/2007 4:21:46 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster

Chavez, Ahmadinejad to work against US

By NASSER KARIMI, Associated Press Writer

53 minutes ago

The presidents of Venezuela and Iran boasted Monday that they will defeat U.S. imperialism together, saying the fall of the dollar is a prelude to the end of Washington's global dominance.

Hugo Chavez's visit to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in Tehran followed a failed weekend attempt by the firebrand duo to push the Organization of Petroleum Exporting States away from trading in the slumping greenback.

Their proposal at an OPEC summit was overruled by other cartel members led by Saudi Arabia, a strong U.S. ally. But the cartel agreed to have OPEC finance ministers discuss the idea, and the two allies' move showed their potential for stirring up problems for the U.S.

The alliance between Chavez and Ahmadinejad has blossomed with several exchanged visits — Monday's was Chavez's fourth time in Tehran in two years — a string of technical agreements and a torrent of rhetoric presenting their two countries as an example of how smaller nations can stand up to the superpower.

"Here are two brother countries, united like a single fist," Chavez said upon his arrival in Tehran, according to Venezuela's state-run Bolivarian News Agency.

"God willing, with the fall of the dollar, the deviant U.S. imperialism will fall as soon as possible, too," Chavez said after a two-hour closed meeting with Ahmadinejad, the Iranian state news agency IRNA reported.

As the dollar weakens, oil prices have soared toward $100 a barrel. Chavez said over the weekend at the OPEC meeting in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, that prices would more than double to $200 if the U.S. attacked Iran or Venezuela.

"The U.S. empire is coming down," Chavez told Venezuelan TV, calling the European Union's euro a better option and saying Latin American nations were also considering a common currency.

The leftist Venezuelan is a fierce critic of President Bush, and Iran's Islamic government is in a bitter standoff with Washington over Tehran's nuclear program. The U.S. accuses Iran of seeking to develop nuclear weapons, a claim Tehran denies, and Iran has been hit with two rounds of U.N. sanctions for refusing to suspend uranium enrichment.

Ahmadinejad backed his "dear brother" Chavez in their joint fight with the Bush administration.

"We have common viewpoints and we will stand by each other until we capture the high peaks. God is with us and victory is awaiting us," Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying by IRNA. He said he and Chavez would stick together to defend their "nations and ideals to the end."

During the OPEC meeting, Iran and Venezuela proposed that the cartel begins pricing its oil in a basket of currencies, rather than just the dollar, and wanted the summit to specifically express concern over the dollar's slide in its final statement.

Saudi Arabia blocked those moves. Saudi Arabia's foreign minister cautioned that even talking publicly about the currency's decline could further hurt its value.

Chavez repeated his warnings that attacking Iran would further increase oil prices. "It's very important that they leave us in peace, the major oil-producing countries," he said.

"If it occurs to Bush to invade Iran, I'm sure the Iranians will resist, and they aren't going to allow them to take away their oil, just as we Venezuelans wouldn't allow it," he said.

In Tehran, the two presidents signed four memorandums of understanding Monday to create a joint bank, a fund, an oil industry technical training program and an industrial agreement, Iranian state television said. It said Chavez then left after an official farewell ceremony.

On Chavez's previous visit in July, the two leaders broke ground for construction of a jointly owned petrochemical complex in Iran, with 51 percent of it in Iranian ownership and 49 percent to be owned by Venezuela. The two nations also began construction of a second petrochemical complex in Venezuela, at a total combined cost of $1.4 billion.

Chavez and Ahmadinejad believe their petrochemical partnership will help Iran win markets in Latin America and Venezuela to gain access to Asia's energy market, especially India.

Since 2001, the two countries have signed more than 180 trade agreements, worth more than $20 billion in potential investment, according to official reports.

Iran has partnered with Venezuela on several industrial projects in the South American nation, including the production of cars, tractors and plastic goods.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ahmadinejad; chavez; iran; redjihad; tlr; venezuela
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Odd couple, a Marxist populist and a devout follower of ancient Imam cult, united against U.S.
1 posted on 11/19/2007 4:21:47 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: FARS; nuconvert; AdmSmith

Ping!


2 posted on 11/19/2007 4:22:21 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
How long do we ignore these piss ants?

I would posture if oil goes to $200 a barrel it would be economically justified to attack both Iran and Venezuela.

3 posted on 11/19/2007 4:25:23 PM PST by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Those who could actually challenge the USA, such as China and Europe, do not engage in such idle talk.


4 posted on 11/19/2007 4:27:35 PM PST by RightWhale (anti-razors are pro-life)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The Cheech and Chong of the axis of evil are at it again I see.


5 posted on 11/19/2007 4:30:19 PM PST by Uncle Meat
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To: Uncle Meat

ITS TIME FOR A LESSON IN FIRE POWER!


6 posted on 11/19/2007 4:31:12 PM PST by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The Saudis stopped Chavez. I guess they may be our ally, despite all that wahabism and lashing of women.


7 posted on 11/19/2007 4:31:17 PM PST by camerakid400
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To: camerakid400

Pure business partner.


8 posted on 11/19/2007 4:32:34 PM PST by RightWhale (anti-razors are pro-life)
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To: OPS4

I have never seen anybody just begging for an ass whipping like these two dips.


9 posted on 11/19/2007 4:34:48 PM PST by Uncle Meat
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To: camerakid400
Saudi ruling class want to stay in power and keep making money. That explains why they both bankroll Wahabi sect and appease U.S. at the same time.
10 posted on 11/19/2007 4:35:00 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: Recon Dad
How long do we ignore these piss ants?

Ignoring them sure as heck won't make them go away. Before September 11th, our policy was to ignore terrorism and it didn't stop two planes from crashing into the WTC.

I wish I was President, I would ask them both if they would like to have some nukes. I am sure their answer would be yes, and then I would air deliver them enough nukes to knock the Earth of her axis.

And then I would be forced to ask the question, how do you like me now?


11 posted on 11/19/2007 4:39:07 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

12 posted on 11/19/2007 4:42:16 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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To: G8 Diplomat
OK, I'll bomb 'im.


13 posted on 11/19/2007 4:43:58 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: RightWhale
Pure business partner.

Why the Saudis pretend to be our allies:

$$$
14 posted on 11/19/2007 4:44:11 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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To: molette67
Never forget:


15 posted on 11/19/2007 4:48:59 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: do the dhue

When one of these tyrants has a bomb they will all have one. Syria included.


16 posted on 11/19/2007 4:53:48 PM PST by purpleraine
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The declining dollar is completely solvable: stop printing money.


17 posted on 11/19/2007 4:55:11 PM PST by FastCoyote
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To: purpleraine
I see this like a football game. You need to hit your enemy before they hit you. That is what made Ronnie Lott such a great hitter. When Walter Peyton ran the ball, he would hit the defender before the defender could hit him. You need to get lower then your enemy and come up and hit them so damn hard that it scares Chuck Norris You gotta do it before they do it to you. If you don't, your socks and shoes are going to be going a different direction then you are.

And I am right about this. You don't think your enemy wants to build a bomb just so they can look at it? No, they will use it to bribe all your assets away and then they will use it on you. You gotta hit them before they hit you. But we probably wont do it because of this:

And that my friend, will get us all killed. Now, I aint sayin' we have to nuke Iran. But if Israel or Bush and others want to do what is necessary to keep our enemy from having a nuke, then gitrdun. Of course, if you want to nuke 'em, I'll be all for that too. I know they would do it to me. So, lets send a message to the next fool.

18 posted on 11/19/2007 5:09:09 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: do the dhue
I agree with what you say and I would add...........When nut job said Israel should be destroyed, I'd take that as a declaration of war and get busy in defending my country. Same with his comments about the US. The idiot says he believes that he is responsible for bringing on the end of the world and he is trying to build a bomb. What are we waiting for? Has anyone ever tried to negotiate with a lunatic. Oh yes, England and Russie in the 30s.

Chavez will help support this guy financially and he will have the bomb if Iran does.

19 posted on 11/19/2007 5:13:31 PM PST by purpleraine
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Someone will probably have to bomb Iran at some point (us,the Israelis...) but there's no need to bomb Venezuela. A skilled sniper is all we need there.
20 posted on 11/19/2007 5:16:03 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Wanna see how bad it can get? Elect Hillary and find out.)
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