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Russian nuclear forces ready for any attack
Reuters ^ | 11/20/2007 | Dmitry Solovyov,

Posted on 11/20/2007 4:26:40 AM PST by SeeSalt

MOSCOW (Reuters) - President Vladimir Putin said on Tuesday that Russia's nuclear forces must be ready for an adequate response to any aggressor and warned Moscow could not remain indifferent to what he termed NATO's "muscle-flexing."

Putin, speaking to top generals less than two weeks before December 2 parliamentary elections, said the NATO military alliance had built up its forces close to Russia's borders.

"We cannot allow ourselves to remain indifferent to the obvious 'muscle-flexing'," Putin said, RIA news agency reported.

He said Russia's strategic nuclear forces -- its long-range missiles -- should be ready to deliver a "swift and adequate response" to any aggressor.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Russia
KEYWORDS: nato; putin; russia; russianmilitary; russiannukes
The Rusians cannot get out of the Cold War era.
1 posted on 11/20/2007 4:26:41 AM PST by SeeSalt
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To: SeeSalt

Maybe its time for another arms race.


2 posted on 11/20/2007 4:30:33 AM PST by DB
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To: SeeSalt

Oh sure, like NATO is so big and scary.


3 posted on 11/20/2007 4:31:46 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: mtbopfuyn

Has Putin been attending the “Chavez School of Diplomacy”?


4 posted on 11/20/2007 4:37:18 AM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: SeeSalt
Somebody needs to help me here.
Didn't we show them that we were nice people?
Didn't we show them that we didn't mean them any harm?
Didn't we show them that we were just like they were and that all we wanted was peace?
With all their saber ratting I don't think they got the script on how their suppose to be nice too.
5 posted on 11/20/2007 4:37:58 AM PST by Falcon4.0
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To: mtbopfuyn

“Germany is prepared to defend itself against any attack by Poland or France”

Folks, things are starting to get spooky in Russia.


6 posted on 11/20/2007 4:38:36 AM PST by elcid1970
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To: mtbopfuyn

Uh...NATO includes the U.S., who are the target of the message, which is to not attack Iran.


7 posted on 11/20/2007 4:43:24 AM PST by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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To: Falcon4.0

You are so right! What is it with the Russians?


8 posted on 11/20/2007 4:44:39 AM PST by 2001convSVT ("People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence")
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To: SeeSalt


Gay Russians claim bare-chested Putin as one of their own

When Vladimir Putin stripped down to the waist for the cameras, his muscled torso made headlines around the world.

And one week on, the ripples are still being felt in Russia, where he has become a sex symbol, the inspiration for men to start pumping iron, and the new darling of the gay lobby.

Few could have predicted the explosion of gossip and speculation that followed the publication of the pictures, taken while the president holidayed with Prince Albert II of Monaco in the Siberian mountains.

Yesterday, the Russian mass-market newspaper Komsomolskaya Pravda published a huge colour photo of the barechested president, under the headline "Be Like Putin".

The picture illustrated a guide to the exercises needed to build up a torso like that of the Russian leader.

The paper reported that women who visited its website posted comments on Putin's "vigorous torso" and said they "were screaming with delight and showering him with compliments."

Russian gay chatrooms and blogs were particularly intrigued by the photos.


9 posted on 11/20/2007 4:46:45 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: 2001convSVT

Missing their old glory days of causing trouble in the world, I guess.


10 posted on 11/20/2007 4:47:33 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: SeeSalt
The Rusians cannot get out of the Cold War era.

Actually I think they've made a nice smooth transition from the mighty empire of the USSR to half the future force of the GOG-MAGOG alliance of the AntiChrist. They're getting all tuned up to dance with the Prince of Darkness. According to the Bible that force is supposed to field an army of some 250 MILLION. If Putin's group of ruffians is Gog, then Magog has got to be.....CHINA.

11 posted on 11/20/2007 4:50:40 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: SeeSalt
I wonder which presidential candidate Putin is hoping to become next US president? And who will be his successor? I doubt Putin is going to go quietly into retirement, his nation needs him like ours needs the Clintons.

From the sounds of this article he would be rooting for one of these international talking diplomats. Richardson did do a fine job talking US through N.Korea, even is up for a peace prize as reward.

12 posted on 11/20/2007 4:51:53 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: G Larry
Uh...NATO includes the U.S., who are the target of the message, which is to not attack Iran.

You are on target!
13 posted on 11/20/2007 5:01:50 AM PST by SeeSalt
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To: Halgr

Maybe vice versa.


14 posted on 11/20/2007 5:07:11 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: DB

They have lots of oil money pouring in. We have lots of debt. Will we still win?


15 posted on 11/20/2007 5:09:01 AM PST by listenhillary (You get more of what you focus on)
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To: Falcon4.0

This blog I snipped says Russia has been training China in advancing their space program from the training we have been given them with NASA.

http://blog.barofintegrity.us/2007/10/23/chinas-space-program.aspx

>>>The terms, according to Nasa, mean different things but, according to the Russians (and us), they mean the same thing.

Oh, this is all so confusing. All right, all right, let us start over again.

You might not know this, but there have been a lot of unhappy rumblings in Malaysian society regarding our paying the Russians buckets of money – the amount of which the Malaysian public is not 100% sure about – to train a bloke to be a spaceman (as accurate a definition I can think of, because he is a man and he is in space). <<<


16 posted on 11/20/2007 5:10:07 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: SeeSalt
What happened to DETENTE, Puty?
17 posted on 11/20/2007 5:18:42 AM PST by wolfcreek (The Status Quo Sucks!)
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To: SeeSalt

the real question is when will the russian navy shoot another of its own ships or subs?


18 posted on 11/20/2007 5:21:31 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: SeeSalt

Translation: Cold War - the Sequel

Brought to you by Vladimer Putin and all the old Soviets who can’t handle democracy and capitalism.

(to make the circle complete) Here we go again!


19 posted on 11/20/2007 5:40:41 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: elcid1970

Things have BEEN spooky in Russia. I’m afraid that most of you have been sleeping or not paying much attention.

Do you see that link down there in my tag line? I suggest you start visiting. Don’t have to post, just go read from time to time. We collect all the data we can on places like Russia, North Korea, etc.

If you’re just now noticing Russia, then you’re well behind the times.


20 posted on 11/20/2007 7:13:01 AM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: Rick.Donaldson

I’ve been noticing Russia since Putin took power. I was deployed to Uzbekistan 2003-04 and noticed lots of fondness for Soviet times among young Uzbeks and Russians with no personal memory of the CCCP.

Of course Russians want to restore their national pride, to include being feared once again. The 2001 Kursk disaster was an enormous embarassment to this end as well as a tragedy.

It’s just that lately Russia Resurgent under Putin is engaging in some unexpectedly bizarre behavior. Laying claim to the North Pole seabed and depositing a Russian flag plaque on the ocean floor, as an example.

And don’t forget suppression of opposition media, outlawing of non-Orthodox proselytizing, saber-rattling at Eastern Europe, and all but getting in economic bed with the Chinese, even as the latter are slowly colonizing Siberia. And tightening the Gazprom energy noose around Europe’s neck.

The Nashi youth movement grows with Putin’s blessing. Looking at pix of its members, I’d say its name is slightly misspelled.

Let’s just say that the `spookiness’ of Novaya Rossiya is now bubbling to the surface.


21 posted on 11/20/2007 7:55:37 AM PST by elcid1970
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To: elcid1970

Well, I don’t think it is bubbling now. It has been, and it was there before Putin. Worse now, certainly.

We’ve been keeping a close eye on them, and to be honest, for all our huff and puff in the states about “allies”, I don’t foresee them as allies, and I personally don’t trust them at all.

The Russians are, pretty much like anyone else, in it for themselves and their own power base, which is most of Europe.

With the Europeans consistently leaning to the side of Socialism (just LOOK at the EU) Karl Marx has a strong hold from the grave, and all of the Communist followers of Marxism would be happily pushing their agendas if they were alive today.

Oh, wait, I forgot the Democratic party is almost nothing BUT socialists these days.

We, the US have been working with Russia for years on strategic defense of our respective regions for missile defense. We’ve had visitors from there, and we’ve visited them over the years — all in an attempt to convince the rest of the world that missile defense is good for everyone.

And yet, the Russians who KNOW this to be true are dead set on causing missile defense to become an “offensive issue”.

So, don’t trust them. Don’t trust the Chinese either. Eventually, the two will understand they together are stronger than us and Europe and will do something about it.

Communism, through Socialism is on a very strong rise in the world, in all hemispheres, and when the time is right, Communism will once again rear it’s ugly head, and the United States will again be their target.

We’ve got an added problem that we have people in the US BLIND to this, who believe that “social” behavior is more important than even patriotism for our own country.


22 posted on 11/20/2007 8:22:25 AM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: Rick.Donaldson

I agree with your post.

But isn’t Marxism stronger in Europe among those who’ve never had to live under it? Aren’t the former Eastern Bloc states firmly anticommunist? Belarus is said to be a Soviet-era time capsule, but the Baltic States remember life prior to Stalin. Ukraine is divided; its eastern portion is Russophilic, but its west is Westerncentric.

The Democrat party in the U.S. is another example of those who favor an ideological system based upon its promises rather than its historical record (”But true socialism hasn’t been tried yet!” they will protest).

But you’re right, the Russians and Chinese have finally looked at the map and decided to become THE Eurasian superpower. And life will be good for millions of its inhabitants; Mao and Stalin are still dead.

I’ll try the Asian Axis website. Meanwhile, where does worldwide militant Islam figure in the Eastasian equation?


23 posted on 11/20/2007 2:59:59 PM PST by elcid1970
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To: SeeSalt

The problem is the Russians can not handle freedom. They have to have a strong man in charge to tell them their every move. Sad but true.


24 posted on 11/20/2007 3:22:41 PM PST by kempo (I)
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To: Rick.Donaldson
Communism, through Socialism is on a very strong rise in the world, in all hemispheres, and when the time is right, Communism will once again rear it’s ugly head, and the United States will again be their target.

You are right. The monster/communism adding another ugly head, - the islamofascism world. And all these evil forces will destroy us if we remain in denial state.
25 posted on 11/21/2007 5:18:40 AM PST by SeeSalt
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To: SeeSalt

You know, I’m not much of a Bible Study.... and I’m one of the folks that kind of stand in the middle on whether “prophecy” in Revelations really means anything in this modern age.

But, I have to say that your remarks make me think that the beast mentioned in Revelations is really Communism/Socialism/Islamofasism etc versus the rest of the free world.


26 posted on 11/23/2007 7:33:27 AM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: listenhillary
They have lots of oil money pouring in. We have lots of debt. Will we still win?

We have the Peoples Republic of China to borrow more from.

27 posted on 11/23/2007 7:46:48 AM PST by Doe Eyes
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