Posted on 11/20/2007 6:13:12 AM PST by Gopher Broke
A Colorado city is considering a plan that one attorney calls the epitome of the war against Christmas.
Tonight, the Fort Collins City Council will meet and decide the fate of a task force report that urges the city to decorate with white lights, winter symbols not traditionally associated with any particular holiday, and unadorned garlands of greenery. City staffers are also encouraged to remove ornaments or stars from trees and red ribbons from wreaths.
Mat Staver, founder of Liberty Counsel, says the task force is seriously misguided. "I think it's absolutely ridiculous that anyone would consider banning red and green because they are associated with Christmas, because they believe that anything associated with Christmas, being religious, has to be banned," he says. "I think this absurdity really underscores the extent to which this war against Christmas has escalated."
The Orlando, Florida-based legal group reports it has issued a letter warning the city council that its censorship of certain Christmas decorations is not well-grounded in legal precedent.
In a press release, Staver wonders if the next step will be to ban the giving of gifts because that act is associated with Christmas. "It is sad and unfortunate that some people are intent on eliminating Christmas because of its Christian theme," the attorney states. "People from around the country ought to call the Fort Collins City Council and protest the ridiculous recommendation of the Holiday Display Task Force.”
Staver points out that the task force included a representative from the American Civil Liberties Union, but neglected to include the input of any other legal organization that Liberty Counsel insists could have presented a "balancing viewpoint." Meanwhile, the local sheriff reportedly has vowed to decorate a Christmas tree -- with multicolored lights -- regardless of the council's decision.
Geez, it sounds like the nut cases in Boulder have escaped, and invaded Fort Collins.
Call them Kwanza lights and watch their heads explode from their brain contortions.
Why no, Mr. Taskforce Officer. I’m not celebrating Christmas, that’s our family tree and those red and green chili pepper lights are in support of illegal aliens.
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City Council
Physical Address: City Hall West, 300 LaPorte Ave., Fort Collins, CO 80521
Mailing Address: PO Box 580, Fort Collins, CO 80522-0580
Phone: (970)221-6878
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Council Member Home Address Phone Email
Doug Hutchinson, Mayor 1315 Whedbee Street, Fort Collins, CO 80524 (970) 416-2154 dhutchinson@fcgov.com
Ben Manvel, District 1 323 East Plum Street, Fort Collins, CO 80524 (970) 217-1932 bmanvel@fcgov.com
Lisa Poppaw, District 2 2945 Stonehaven Drive, Fort Collins, CO 80525 (970) 223-4136 lpoppaw@fcgov.com
Diggs Brown, District 3 903 Rule Drive #14, Fort Collins, CO 80526 (970) 420-9097 dbrown@fcgov.com
Wade Troxell, District 4 812 Rochelle Circle, Fort Collins, CO 80526 (970) 219-8940 wtroxell@fcgov.com
Kelly Ohlson, District 5 2040 Bennington Circle, Fort Collins, CO 80526 (970) 493-7225 kohlson@fcgov.com
David Roy, District 6 2016 Evergreen Court, Fort Collins, CO 80521 (970) 217-5506 droy@fcgov.com
That’s racist.
Red and Green are the colors of the Mexican flag.
FC ping
These people have nothing better to do????? Typical example of why our government, in general, isn’t working. The people in Fort Collins need to get rid of these people and find some that actually do the peoples business for a change. I’m sure that if they look around, there should be something they could be doing of more value.
Just tell them that your are celebrating Festivus.
I forgot the link to the public info above....
http://fcgov.com/council/contact-us.php
If they add gold lights (to the red and green) they cover Kwanzaa; add blue and white you got Chanukah covered. But wait, isn’t that a STRING OF MULTI-COLORED LIGHTS?!?!?!?!?
From the city council page:
http://www.ci.fort-collins.co.us/council/?bct
Here are the council members’ emails:
dhutchinson@fcgov.com,droy@fcgov.com,kohlson@fcgov.com,wtroxell@fcgov.com,dbrown@fcgov.com,lpoppaw@fcgov.com ,bmanvel@fcgov.com
Maybe I should file a complaint that I am offended by traffic lights (except for the yellow one in the middle).
/s
Is this for real?
Actually - I’m finding myself liking the idea of turning Christmas back into a religious holiday for those of us that celebrate Christ’s birthday.
I’d like to see people have to go to work on Christmas. I’d like to see stores not decorate or advertise for Christmas shoppers & just have business as usual. I’d like to see people gather with their families and go to a church service for Christmas and stop spending the obscene amounts of money for gifts none of us need with merchants that don’t want to say the word “Christmas”, but want us to spend our “Christmas” money with them.
I’d like to see an end to the commercialism of the holiday and let it get back to what it really is supposed to be.
Christians really need to “go on strike” for Christmas & let the merchants and everyone else see that they need to be careful what they wish for.
So what are they going to do with the traffic lights ?
Isn’t white lights racist? How come no black lights.
I guess that the City Council in Ft. Collins is concerned that too many of their citizens will be confused by the red and green lights and think they are traffic signals.
/sarc
Don’t get me started. The Ft. Collins city council has apparently failed to notice that Christmas is being reclaimed by ordinary Americans who reject the whole “Holiday Tree” and “Happy Holidays” nonsense.
The reason for the season is CHRISTMAS!! Deal with it or go away.
It always comes back in favor of whitey.
Cracker please!!
Brother wants to see some black lights.
Should the Fort Collins city council approve this nonsense, the best thing residents could do would be to boycott the local merchants during the Christmas season. The loss of sales tax revenue would be devastating to the city, and angry merchants may quickly tell the ACLU and the diversity and sensitivity types to sit down and shut up.
I will do my part. I will not participate in your red lights by not going to Ft. Collins. They are just a left wing hate mongering city any way. Hey Ft. Collins “Taze this Worship Christ!”
Sounds like the California transplants are trying to take over Colorado.
Ah, yes. Diversity Lights!
We have. That's why KMart, Home Depot and Lowes (to name a few) have suddenly "got religion" and started selling Christmas trees instead of "Holiday Trees" and they have started wishing their customers "Merry Christmas" instead of "Happy Holidays".
This could get interesting. If this goes down and the sheriff draws a line in the sand over this and there is any action to take down the tree people could end up in jail.
I was thinking communists and ecowhackos, but in the same vein...
So ice and snow should be banned because someone, somewhere, worships something associated with it, too. (The Gorite church of warmth-hating fruitcakes)
Red, Green and White...also the color of the Italian flag.
But do they have a poll?
In true “Animal Farm” logic Freedom of Religion has now become Freedom From Religion. The Constitution be damned.
Rocky Mountain High....was the marching song
Make sure that it is an aluminum pole.
What about the rest of us who don't want to celebrate Festivus?
That is an interesting approach.
I wonder if this “task force” wears brown shirts?
Black lights are like, way cool, man! But then we'd have to all wear white shirts for the full effect and that brings us back to whitey again.
You and your family are free to do just that if that is what you want.
Check out this thread. CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC has researched the members. He is also going to attempt to speak at the public meeting tonight.
Red and green are also found in the flags of many Islamic countries such as Iran, Syria, Sudan, and the Palestinian Authority, so it seems Fort Collins is a hotbed of ethnocentricity and racism.
Reparations!!
Its this plantation mentality that keeps the color black out of the rainbow.
We all know there's a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow...unless your black!
It’s not sad ... it’s downright hatred and fear of religion. I hope the people of the city will stand tall and say we are doing this!!! It’s time people who want to do these stop having interference by those who are just miserable and try to make everyone else miserable. I’m sick and tired of this. They have NO RIGHT to take away what we do as tradition and celebration of Christmas. There is porn out there, perverts, rapists, child molesters, murderers and yes, two heroic border guards sitting in some lousey jail for doing their jobs and now people are complaining about red and green Christmas lights?
Should the city remove the stop lights too? They are red and green and are there all year round? Does that THREATEN those who associate red and green with Christmas?
What about peppers? They are red and green too.
How about geraniums and evergreens?
What about red hearts on Valentines’ Day???
What about green on St. Patrick’s Day???
What about green grass?
What about red sunsets?
What about our blood...it’s red too...
Silly huh? Well, that’s how I view this nonsense going on now. Just plain silly and I hope there are adults there who will recognize this for what it is...silly and trouble making. Nothing more...nothing less. Seems to me there are an awful lot of people out there who start this nonsense just to stir the pot. If you don’t like the lights...dont’ look at them. We dont’ like porn or the filth out of holly wood but guess what???? We dont’ go to those movies nor do we pay good money to line the pockets of those who make and act in this junk. However, we don’t stop those who want to. This is Christmas and it should be celebrated and enjoyed by all. Sorry for the rant but this stuff just makes me sick anymore. Nothing but a bunch of trouble makers. This country has gone down hill and it’s going to continue if American doesn’t stand up and be heard.
I agree Christmas has become commercialized way too much. But....not everyone buys into it. It’s up to each and every family to celebrate Christmas the way they see fit. However, a few lights aren’t hurting anything. This is pure, unadulterated nonsense.
Why do the green olives have to be in a jar, while the black olives get to be in a can? :)
and proud of that and my dad. :)
Thanks for the ping. It is becoming more obvious every day that not enough intelligent people are voting in local elections. That is where we have to start getting rid of the socialist, America-hating brown shirts.
and...the green olives are stuffed with pimentos. Those are now red and green olives. Should they be banned too?
BINGO!!!
You know what they say, “if you are lucky enough to be Italian, you are lucky enough”.
I have a shirt that says, “save the earth first, its the only place there are Italians”.
(The graphics are very similar to the “earth first” logos.)
My brother has a shirt that says, “there are two kinds of people, Italians and those who want to be”.
Why no, Mr. Taskforce Officer. I’m not celebrating Christmas, that’s our family tree and those red and green chili pepper lights are in support of illegal aliens.
Good one! Lord I hate liberal wack jobs! Oops, am I guilty of a hate crime?
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