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President Putin rattles nuclear sabre at Nato
London Times ^ | November 21, 2007 | Tony Halpin in Moscow

Posted on 11/21/2007 4:55:36 AM PST by Aristotelian

President Putin accused Nato yesterday of threatening Russia’s security and ordered the military to place the country’s strategic nuclear arsenal on a higher state of alert.

“In violation of previous agreements, certain member countries of the Nato alliance are increasing their resources next to our borders,” Mr Putin told generals in a meeting broadcast on state television. “Russia cannot remain indifferent to this obvious muscle-flexing.”

Mr Putin, whose rhetoric has become more strident as relations with the West have deteriorated, went on: “One of the most important tasks remains raising the combat readiness of the strategic nuclear forces. They should be ready to deliver a quick and adequate reply to any aggressor.”

He issued his stark message as Russia confirmed that it would pull out of a landmark arms limitation treaty on December 12. The Conventional Forces in Europe (CFE) treaty was fundamental to ending the Cold War.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: helpfindacureforbds; nato; putin; russiannukes
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Is this guy simply starving for attention? Putting on a show for the folks back home? Hoping to regain superpower status? Or just an egotist?

I knew no good would come to electing a former KGB chief as Russian president.

1 posted on 11/21/2007 4:55:37 AM PST by Aristotelian
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To: Aristotelian

Maybe we should invite him for a taste of our soup?


2 posted on 11/21/2007 5:00:27 AM PST by Romneyfor President2008
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To: Aristotelian

Putin’s next visit to Crawford is when?


3 posted on 11/21/2007 5:11:33 AM PST by riored
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To: Aristotelian
strategic nuclear forces...should be ready to deliver a quick and adequate reply to any aggressor

Like putting Polonium in their tea?

4 posted on 11/21/2007 5:32:36 AM PST by hellbender
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To: hellbender

strategic nuclear forces...should be ready to deliver a quick and adequate reply to “any” aggressor. ................. There is a message there and I don’t believe it only applies to NATO. If I were Puttin I wouldn’t be too concerned with NATO. His problem will be in the east and the south, not the west. He knows darn well NATO’s intentions are not aggressive.


5 posted on 11/21/2007 5:49:54 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Staying home or voting 3rd Party, Elects Hillary!)
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To: Bringbackthedraft
Vlad "the Irradiator" Putin should be concerned about those east and south, but he gets in bed with the Chinese, and helps Iran go nuclear. He's showing his anti-Western KGB roots with every decision he makes.
6 posted on 11/21/2007 6:22:47 AM PST by hellbender
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To: Aristotelian

“Russia cannot remain indifferent to this obvious muscle-flexing.”

Its so cute when cubs growl.....(chuckle)


7 posted on 11/21/2007 6:23:47 AM PST by Badeye (That Karma thing keeps coming around, eh Sally? (chuckle))
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To: Aristotelian

This is merely ANOTHER example of the Administration incredible ineptness on foreign policy. Its almost as if the father was guiding the son.

Putting anti-missile bases near Russia’s border’s given our strined relations, Putin’s background and the Russian traditional xenophobic persecution-complex attitudes was the height of stupidity. One would expect better from a Secretary of State who allegedly majored in Soviet affairs.

The only possible outcome of such a move is what is what we are now seeing.

The Russians and Putin in particular, were never our friends. But we shouldn’t be doing things to unnecessarily aggrevate them as it distracts from what should be our main focus - Iran.


8 posted on 11/21/2007 6:31:29 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU

There are a chain of events that begin in 2003 where Putin began making an about face in temporary strategic alliance against Islam. The missle shield is partially a strong message that we will not tolerate Russia helping the ME build the Arab bomb.

That said, I have some strong religious beliefs about Russia and those include that Russia will launch an all out nuclear attack on our country after we see a global collapse of the central banking system and a regional ME war. We have a massive technology advantage over the Russians and in there paranoid minds, it disturbs them endlessly. So when oil stops flowing and we have our moment of weakness watch the Russian bear awaken with the power of the atom. If such does indeed occur, we must not only annihalate them in return but extend the conflict to conquer their entire nation afterward to guarantee their destructive culture and attitudes never can resurface again.


9 posted on 11/21/2007 11:19:55 AM PST by quant5
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To: quant5

Interesting ideas.

What religion are they tied to?


10 posted on 11/21/2007 1:35:25 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Aristotelian

He’s got a pocket full of oil money and now he’s big balling.


11 posted on 11/21/2007 1:39:15 PM PST by toddlintown (Five bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: quant5
You have some dangerous nutty ideas.

After 9/11 we were on a roll with the new Russia, Putin did a lot of accommodating, Rice did zilch.

The next president will have to to be realistic, and come to terms with the new Russia. We are both basically large powerful Christian countries with too much in common to be 'promoting' a potential catastrophe.

12 posted on 11/21/2007 2:17:33 PM PST by duckln
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To: Bringbackthedraft
He knows darn well NATO’s intentions are not aggressive.

Really think so? NATO was aggressive in Bosnia and Kosovo. Siding with the Islamist there and in Chechnya was the height of stupidity. Why shouldn't they be more than irritated.

13 posted on 11/21/2007 2:28:57 PM PST by duckln
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To: Aristotelian

Is this guy simply starving for attention?

YES

Putting on a show for the folks back home?

YES

Hoping to regain superpower status?

YES

Or just an egotist?

YES.


14 posted on 11/21/2007 2:47:01 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (- Attention all planets of the solar Federation--Secret plan codeword: Banana)
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To: Aristotelian

Putin you can kiss my red-blooded American @rse with your commy pinko lips you Hitlary Robem Clinton loving b@st@ard.


15 posted on 11/21/2007 2:48:01 PM PST by dotnetfellow
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To: Bringbackthedraft
*****There is a message there and I don’t believe it only applies to NATO. If I were Putin I wouldn’t be too concerned with NATO. His problem will be in the east and the south, not the west. He knows darn well NATO’s intentions are not aggressive.****

It is usually a mistake to think that someone thinks the same way you do. Poland and Checz(sp?) are part of NATO, now which requires the other NATO countries to defend them if they are attacked. Russia has not shown any aggressive tendencies to eastern Europe lately, so, extending bases closer to Russia, is an aggressive move on NATO’s part.

Russians are great chess players and, in chess, a threat is almost as good as an attack.

The only real threat Russia faces from the east and the south is China. There is no Islamic country that could attack in a military manner.

Russia has not been attacked from the east or the south in the last two centuries, but it has been attacked from the west— France, Napoleon, and Germany, Hitler.

Just because we think our intentions are pure, doesn’t mean Russia thinks our intentions are pure.

16 posted on 11/21/2007 5:42:01 PM PST by jmeagan (Our last chance to change the direction of the country -- Ron Paul)
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"Russia will launch an all out nuclear attack on our country after we see a global collapse of the central banking system and a regional ME war."

Only if they're on a suicide mission, because if that ever happened "the Motherland" would cease to exist in under an hour. Literally.

The Russians are many things, a lot of them not so complimentary. But unlike Islamist nutballs they're not suicidal.

17 posted on 11/21/2007 5:48:00 PM PST by Mr. Mojo (“Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors and miss.")
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To: quant5

I saw what you describe in a movie once about 25 years ago. The movie was called “red dawn”.

I can’t believe that’s been a quarter century already.


18 posted on 11/21/2007 5:49:33 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: ZULU
Putting anti-missile bases near Russia’s border’s given our strined relations, Putin’s background and the Russian traditional xenophobic persecution-complex attitudes was the height of stupidity. One would expect better from a Secretary of State who allegedly majored in Soviet affairs.

I agree 100%.

What would we do if Russia decided to place an anti-missile system in Mexico or Canada, OR Venezuela?
And we aren't nearly as paranoid as Russia.

19 posted on 11/21/2007 7:00:43 PM PST by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: Vinnie
Good analogy. And I don’t like Putin. But we are just giving him ammo.

It was a stupid move. It provides no real protection to eastern Europe while aggravating the Russians.

20 posted on 11/21/2007 7:55:21 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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