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Home prices continue to fall
http://money.cnn.com/2007/11/21/real_estate/NAR_prices_through_September/index.htm ^ | 11-21-07 | Les Christie

Posted on 11/21/2007 9:09:14 AM PST by Hydroshock

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Housing price drops, driven by soaring foreclosure rates, accelerated during the three months ended September 30, according to the latest data from the National Association of Realtors (NAR).

The median single-family house price in the United States fell to $220,800, which was down 2 percent from a year ago. Condo prices showed some resiliency: At $226,900, they rose 2 percent compared with 12 months ago.

"The biggest decline in sales appears to be concentrated in areas that had significant levels of speculative investment, including Nevada, Florida and Arizona," Lawrence Yun, NAR's chief economist, said in a statement.

Most declines occurred either in once hot markets or Rust-Belt areas clobbered by economic setbacks and job losses, like Detroit and Cleveland.

The Palm Bay/Melbourne, Fla. area recorded the steepest loss. Prices there plunged 12.4 percent to $182,400. Close behind was Sacramento, Calif. with a decline of 10.5 percent to $335,700.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 247badnewschannel; housing; mortgage; nar; realestate; vulturegram

1 posted on 11/21/2007 9:09:15 AM PST by Hydroshock
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To: Hydroshock

Not mine. Nothing but going UP, Baby!

You are SUCH a downer, Hydro. You get some perverse pleasure from posting this stuff, don’t you? LOL!


2 posted on 11/21/2007 9:10:29 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Hydroshock; Calpernia; cbkaty; Nervous Tick; ex-Texan; RockinRight; NVDave; Neidermeyer; ...

Economy/Credit/Housing Issues Ping List

If you want on or off this list let me know.


3 posted on 11/21/2007 9:11:29 AM PST by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: Hydroshock

-—booms bust—


4 posted on 11/21/2007 9:12:07 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: Hydroshock

Another “Good News” story.


5 posted on 11/21/2007 9:12:16 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“Not mine. Nothing but going UP, Baby!”

Mine has cooled a bit...minor correction. Fortunately, we live in a resort area which has protected us from the falling market.


6 posted on 11/21/2007 9:18:56 AM PST by Slapshot68
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To: Hydroshock

I don’t know what prices are doing in my area (West Ventura County, near the ocean), but quite a few houses near me have “sold” signs on them in the last couple of weeks.


7 posted on 11/21/2007 9:24:20 AM PST by hoppity
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; Hydroshock

The area north of NYC has been spared as well.


8 posted on 11/21/2007 9:41:15 AM PST by NY.SS-Bar9 (DR #1692)
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To: hoppity

Nobody is buying or selling here in Fairbanks. Everybody is waiting for the Natural Gas pipeline bids end of this month. If no Pipeline you will have your choice where to live.


9 posted on 11/21/2007 9:43:15 AM PST by RightWhale (anti-razors are pro-life)
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To: Hydroshock
The median single-family house price in the United States fell to $220,800, which was down 2 percent from a year ago.

The median price has dropped by $4500!

DOOMED!

10 posted on 11/21/2007 10:00:24 AM PST by Fan of Fiat
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To: Slapshot68

I bought my “farmette” 14 years ago. Every Yuppie in the tri-county area wants my place so they can play “Green Acres.”

*Rolleyes* :)


11 posted on 11/21/2007 10:07:46 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Hydroshock; M. Espinola; Travis McGee; stephenjohnbanker; Calpernia
Mortgage Company Accused of Blatant Fraud

Excerpts:

Falsifying loan documents, changing tax records, forging signatures -- we try to track down those involved in what the state says was blatant mortgage fraud. The State Department of Commerce's Division of Real Estate has just shut down one mortgage company and is going after the people involved.

The Division of Real Estate calls those involved in this alleged scam dishonest and fraudulent, but we spoke to one person who had his license revoked because of this, and he says the state is on a witch hunt.

* * * No one would respond to the charges, at least not on the record. One Champion Mortgage worker claims the state is looking to blame mortgage brokers for bad loans. He says the state is running them out of business and ruining their livelihoods. They also say they were strong-armed into signing documents saying they falsified information.

By the way, this was only an administrative proceeding. There will be no criminal charges filed in this case.

Champion Mortgage was not the only company involved. * * *

So let's get this down pat: Blatant fraud took place. But no criminal charges have been filed. [As yet !] Do you remember the theme song of the old television show in the 1960's - - "Rawhide! ?" Visualize herds of former mortgage brokers moving toward The Big Corral. A corral is where cowpokes keep livestock temporarily.

Is public flogging permitted today?

But business is not going on as usual. Small wonder that house prices keep falling. The ponzi scheme is over.

12 posted on 11/21/2007 10:07:54 AM PST by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: Hydroshock
Interesting tidbit about condo prices. I bought a condo this year and no - its not a speculative investment. Its my home.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

13 posted on 11/21/2007 10:10:32 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Yeah....our condo goes on the market in the next month (work relocation).....we’ll see how it is soon.


14 posted on 11/21/2007 10:21:43 AM PST by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character! Being Coddled Destroys Character!)
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To: Hydroshock

The home prices are not “falling”. They are returning to normal in the areas of the country where they reached unexpected and ridiculously high levels.


15 posted on 11/21/2007 10:26:36 AM PST by FishTale
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
no, this is must be one of his his UP threads...he left this in....

Condo prices showed some resiliency: At $226,900, they rose 2 percent compared with 12 months ago.
16 posted on 11/21/2007 10:34:18 AM PST by stylin19a
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Not mine. Nothing but going UP, Baby!

Wasn't this sweet during the real estate bubble [south of Ft. Worth]

17 posted on 11/21/2007 10:41:01 AM PST by BlabItGrabIt (Trucks...Trucks....Trucks...Trucks)
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To: stylin19a

I live in Arizona and I’m seeing new housing starts everywhere, I am wondering if this article is even true.
Also lots and lots of commercial buildings being built.


18 posted on 11/21/2007 10:42:46 AM PST by Moolah
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To: stylin19a
I bought mine for less than median - and that was BEFORE the housing market turned soft!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

19 posted on 11/21/2007 10:44:03 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Moolah
The article says the fall in housing prices appears to be limited to investment markets. In other words, people who bought a home should do OK. We should be thankful the economy is humming along nicely instead of griping how bad things might get. We should appreciate life's small blessings and thank God for them.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

20 posted on 11/21/2007 10:46:21 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: stylin19a

LOL! Good catch. :)


21 posted on 11/21/2007 11:18:52 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: BlabItGrabIt

I’ve bought real estate since I was 25 years old. The Midwest market has always been very steady.

And then there was my uncle who bought a house in CA for $150K and sold it 10 years later for $650K. He hasn’t worked in two years, and I doubt he will again at age 57. :)


22 posted on 11/21/2007 11:21:04 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I just wish more red-blooded Americans would realize these doom’n’gloom scenes are just replays of Mr. Clinton’s “It’s the economy, stupid” winning ploy against #41.
23 posted on 11/21/2007 12:21:25 PM PST by BlabItGrabIt (Trucks...Trucks....Trucks...Trucks)
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To: BlabItGrabIt
I just wish more red-blooded Americans would realize these doom’n’gloom scenes are just replays of Mr. Clinton’s “It’s the economy, stupid” winning ploy against #41.

Having housing prices return to a sane market level that our kids can afford without resorting to extremely foolish gimmick loans is not "doom’n’gloom". It is good news.

24 posted on 11/21/2007 12:27:07 PM PST by Polybius
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To: ex-Texan

Tip of the iceberg.


25 posted on 11/21/2007 12:39:33 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: FishTale

Still amazed that some folks witnessed housing prices double in 5 years, while their salaries increased maybe 15% and still bought into it. Stupid people, stupid lenders, stupid homebuilders deserve to go under.


26 posted on 11/21/2007 12:45:14 PM PST by petercooper ("Daisy-cutters trump a wiretap anytime." - Nicole Gelinas - 02-10-04)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Not mine. Nothing but going UP, Baby!

Same with my brother's. He's worried that he may be getting taxed out of his home in a couple of years due to rising property taxes.

27 posted on 11/21/2007 12:45:27 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ex-Texan
In the normal world acts of blatant fraud in the millions and billions would be automatic elongated Big House time, however those well healed criminals have many friends in the highest of places, so it's likely these boardroom racketeer will have have the RICO act thrown at them, but a fat bonus check & very profitable stock options - for life.

ENGLEWOOD CLIFFS, N.J., Nov. 21, 2007 (PRIME NEWSWIRE) -- Gardy & Notis, LLP has filed a securities fraud class action lawsuit in the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York on behalf of purchasers of E-Trade Financial Corporation (Nasdaq:ETFC) securities between April 20, 2006 and November 9, 2007.

Are they with Chase, Citi, Northern Rock or Credit Suisse?

28 posted on 11/21/2007 6:52:00 PM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: ex-Texan

I hope you have gotten some apologies from people around here. You saw all of this coming and stayed the course despite the naysayers, of whom, I was probably one. I salute you!


29 posted on 11/21/2007 7:31:34 PM PST by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: Polybius
Having housing prices return to a sane market level that our kids can afford without resorting to extremely foolish gimmick loans is not "doom’n’gloom". It is good news.

Not if you made a home equity loan on a home value higher than what it is now!

30 posted on 11/21/2007 8:24:33 PM PST by hripka (There are a lot of smart people out there in FReeperLand)
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To: FishTale; Polybius; petercooper

31 posted on 11/21/2007 8:30:42 PM PST by FreedomCalls (Texas: "We close at five.")
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Housing prices are very stable here in Hershey, PA.

The EPA made the company take the sweet smell of chocolate in the air out. Something about it being polution. Idiots.

I live on Cocoa Ave.

32 posted on 11/21/2007 8:36:16 PM PST by AGreatPer ("The Democrats don't give a rats ass about this country"....Rush Limbaugh, 11/15/07)
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To: FreedomCalls

Reversion to the mean is going to be a real bitch.


33 posted on 11/21/2007 8:43:22 PM PST by Pelham ("You Can't Deport Them" the fallback position of the Amnesty Republicans)
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To: Hydroshock

I’m sure that somehow my house value will go down, but my property taxes will still increase.


34 posted on 11/21/2007 8:47:02 PM PST by Nachoman (My guns and my ammo, they comfort me.)
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To: Polybius
Having housing prices return to a sane market level that our kids can afford without resorting to extremely foolish gimmick loans is not "doom’n’gloom". It is good news

You must not remember "It's the economy. stupid" from Mr. Clinton's campaign against #41.

Night after night after night of America is going into a recession, if not a depression, tomorrow.

America fired #41 out of terror, when in reality the economy was about to take off--and did--like a scalded ape.

The doom and gloom stories these days are the same plays on the ignorants' fears.

35 posted on 11/22/2007 5:22:12 PM PST by BlabItGrabIt (Trucks...Trucks....Trucks...Trucks)
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To: hripka
Having housing prices return to a sane market level that our kids can afford without resorting to extremely foolish gimmick loans is not "doom’n’gloom". It is good news.

Not if you made a home equity loan on a home value higher than what it is now!


36 posted on 11/23/2007 12:22:02 AM PST by Polybius
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To: BlabItGrabIt
You must not remember "It's the economy. stupid" from Mr. Clinton's campaign against #41. Night after night after night of America is going into a recession, if not a depression, tomorrow. America fired #41 out of terror, when in reality the economy was about to take off--and did--like a scalded ape. The doom and gloom stories these days are the same plays on the ignorants' fears.

Yes, I remember. However, I warned on FR about the stupidity of the gimmick loans that fueled the Housing Bubble long before the Bubble burst.

As it turned out, those highly irresponsible loans were drawn up by unscrupulous bankers eager to generate high yield debt to sell to hedge funds. Now that the Ponzi Scheme has collapsed, there will be blood in the water and politicians will try to turn that to their advantage.

What the Republicans need to do is not stick their heads in the sand and hope that nobody notices the blood but, rather, point out the obvious fact that a return to sane markets values will help Americans once again be able to afford the American Dream of owning their own home without selling their souls to Bank of America.

37 posted on 11/23/2007 12:32:33 AM PST by Polybius
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