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Dour Thompson Says I'm ``Just Fred'
The Guardian ^ | November 21, 2007 | Mike Glover

Posted on 11/21/2007 2:40:50 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

AMES, Iowa - Fred Thompson says his often-dour demeanor simply reflects his seriousness about the issues facing the country. ``I'm just Fred,'' he says, and the image that's served him through a successful political career won't be changing.

Thompson, who played a tough-minded and gruff district attorney on television's ``Law & Order,'' offers precisely that image as he campaigns for the GOP presidential nomination. He's generally serious and direct, with little of the backslapping and joking of many of his rivals.

``I laugh when I am amused and I'm amused a lot,'' said Thompson, in an interview with The Associated Press. ``When I'm talking about terrorism, when I'm talking about bankrupting the next generation, when I talk about what is going on in Washington, I am not amused. I don't think it's funny.''

He said he's ``no less chirpy'' on the campaign trail than when he won election and then re-election to the U.S. Senate in Tennessee. ``There's only one thing I can guarantee and that is I will be me, and it's served me pretty well politically,'' he said.

Like most of the candidates for the GOP nomination, Thompson is seeking to convince Republican primary voters that he is the natural heir to the political legacy of President Reagan, a former actor who was known both for his staunch conservatism and his sunny disposition.

Thompson has a take on Reagan's political success that plays into his own strengths.

``Reagan's success was that he was Reagan,'' said Thompson. ``When he did his television presentations, when he made his speeches, it was not all sunlight and music and a walk in the park. That was pretty serious stuff, he was talking about the Soviet Union.(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: 2008; campaigns; conservatives; dour; election; electionpresident; elections; federalism; folksy; fredthompson; gop; grumpy; ia2008; laconic; lazy; lazylikeafox; lethargic; reaganesque; republicans; ronaldreagan
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Good enough for me, and the majority here on FR, if the polls are any indication. Now is the time to get the word out on the streets....
1 posted on 11/21/2007 2:40:51 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I like Fred, but God he is the worst candidate.

No energy whatsoever.

No chance.


2 posted on 11/21/2007 2:46:06 PM PST by GAD
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m with you. I think the reports of Fred’s demise are premature. Let’s let Romney and Guiliani and “dimples” Huck tear each other up and see who emerges on the other side :)

GO FRED!!!


3 posted on 11/21/2007 2:46:37 PM PST by rightazrain ("Once we have a war there is only one thing to do. It must be won. " -- Ernest Hemingway)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hey, I’m Scottish. I like dour. I’ve got no problem with Fred.


4 posted on 11/21/2007 2:47:48 PM PST by Free Vulcan (No prisoners. No mercy.)
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To: GAD
"I like Fred, but God he is the worst candidate.

No energy whatsoever.

No chance."


That's funny, I see it totally different from you.

To me he is more like the energizer bunny!

And with respect to him having no chance, pay attention to the polls, they say otherwise.

In fact, I doubt you like Fred at all and doubt your sincerity. All over the place AND right on the issues!
5 posted on 11/21/2007 2:50:21 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: GAD
No energy whatsoever.

"Ohhh....nice!

6 posted on 11/21/2007 2:52:50 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: SoConPubbie; GAD
Posted by GAD to SevenofNine On News/Activism 08/22/2007 4:13:53 PM PDT · 42 of 63

Fred announce soon?

...yawn...



Guess I was right about your lack of sincerity!
7 posted on 11/21/2007 2:53:19 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: GAD

I like Fred, too. But I think his followers are a little fanatical and obsessive. LOL


8 posted on 11/21/2007 2:53:25 PM PST by Romneyfor President2008
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Fred’s my man, and I believe our best candidate against Hilary. Very soothing and substantial who well counters her shrillness. He’s also put together a thoughtful, sincere and powerful platform. He can run a bit to the dour, but I think that’s gonna work this time around. I just hope the Pubbies don’t shoot themselves in the foot with the voting in the first handful of primaries. (E.g., people just don’t warm to or trust Mitt, even though he’s he’s been clever and has spent a lot of money to buy NH and IA.)


9 posted on 11/21/2007 2:53:45 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Free Vulcan
Hey, I’m Scottish. I like dour. I’ve got no problem with Fred.

I'm Irish. I like drunk and dour too. I also have no problem with Fred.
10 posted on 11/21/2007 2:57:33 PM PST by Jaysun (It's outlandishly inappropriate to suggest that I'm wrong.)
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To: Romneyfor President2008

...and the pot speaks to the kettle...again.


11 posted on 11/21/2007 2:58:31 PM PST by papasmurf (FRed Thompson hasn't killed anyone, how many has yours killed???)
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To: Romneyfor President2008
I like Fred, too. But I think his followers are a little fanatical and obsessive. LOL

Yes. Then I saw your name! Ha! I didn't know anyone named "Romneyfor" was running. What is he, Norwegian?
12 posted on 11/21/2007 2:59:01 PM PST by Jaysun (It's outlandishly inappropriate to suggest that I'm wrong.)
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To: mylife

"I blame them crisps... onion an' dumpling flavor, it's not natural!"

13 posted on 11/21/2007 3:00:31 PM PST by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: mylife

Hyacinth: Why is it one always sees so much of Onslow?

Daisy: He likes to keep his arms free.

Hyancinth: I don’t know why - he never does much with them...


14 posted on 11/21/2007 3:00:39 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Jaysun

He could be like Romney, Rudy, McCain or Huckabee, and have no principles at all! RINOS every one.

Fred is just Fred with magnificant position papers. Show me the papers of any of the above. I’m waiting.


15 posted on 11/21/2007 3:00:47 PM PST by Bobbisox (ALL AMERICAN "LAZY " GRANDMA FREEPER, and a LOYAL and DEDICATED FredHEAD!)
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To: Romneyfor President2008

I agree


16 posted on 11/21/2007 3:01:20 PM PST by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: SoConPubbie

I like Fred.

Repeat.

However, I believe he really lacks on the stump. Ph by the way, this is not even a minority view among conservatives.

Did you hear him on Laura’s show 6 weeks ago, SoConPubbie?

Did you hear him on Laura’s show 6 weeks ago, SoConPubbie?

Listeners called in and were...well, embarrassed with his sleepy performance.

I want him to win, but he’s got to drop the ‘I’m Fred’ act and get some fire in his belly.

Oh...don’t doubt me. I don’t doubt whoever you are....


17 posted on 11/21/2007 3:02:58 PM PST by GAD
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There is more to nominating a candidate than the Iowa caucuses and the New Hampshire primary.


18 posted on 11/21/2007 3:03:24 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Bobbisox
He could be like Romney, Rudy, McCain or Huckabee, and have no principles at all! RINOS every one.

Fred is just Fred with magnificant position papers. Show me the papers of any of the above. I’m waiting.


Who are you talking to? I'm a Fredite from way back.
19 posted on 11/21/2007 3:03:36 PM PST by Jaysun (It's outlandishly inappropriate to suggest that I'm wrong.)
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To: GAD

“I like Fred, but God he is the worst candidate.
No energy whatsoever.
No chance.”

Jeez, you’ve done it now...better get on your flame proof under wear.
Don’t you know that Ole Brer Fred is just waiting till the time is right to spring the trap. He’s really up 30 points in the polls, and the MSM fears him like a possum fears a pick handle. He’s only trending down to catch the other top tier guys asleep. Jack Bauer wears Fred PJs. I’m sure I left out a lot....but not to worry the usual chorus will be here soon and they’ll get ya up to speed. LOL


20 posted on 11/21/2007 3:04:34 PM PST by snarkybob
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To: Old Sarge; Republican Wildcat

L0L


21 posted on 11/21/2007 3:06:06 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: GAD

Take your willard/rootie/huck talking points and go to one of their threads. This crap was old back in August when charlie gibson, george stephanopolis and james carville were first saying it. All you do is piss off potential future voters for whomever “may” win the nomination.

LLS


22 posted on 11/21/2007 3:10:12 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: Free Vulcan

I’m mostly German, and I don’t need any stinking emotion. Just give me leadership.


23 posted on 11/21/2007 3:11:08 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter ( Who is America's George Galloway?)
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To: Romneyfor President2008
You romney bots are a lot like dims... in ALL respects!

LLS

24 posted on 11/21/2007 3:11:30 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Although I’m skeptical of this parTICular report, because (1) The Guardian is a leftist rag and (2) Thompson KNOWS it is a leftist rag (and thus probably wasn’t going to bother turning on the charm; they were going to write a bad piece on him in any case),

still,

about 2/3 of the times I’ve seen Fred on the campaign trail, he’s been a little blah. It’s true. I wish it weren’t because, while Fred is a mixed bag, overall he is my top choice right now.

He does need to find a way to energize his appearances without (!) doing some fake “Hillary’s Cackle” makeover.


25 posted on 11/21/2007 3:12:46 PM PST by pogo101
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To: Romneyfor President2008
I like Fred, too. But I think his followers are a little fanatical and obsessive.

Says tne n00b who signed up just to flack for Romney. Fanatical and obsessive? LOL

26 posted on 11/21/2007 3:14:49 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (I have a tagline . I just don't think the forum police will allow me to use it. THEY'RE EVERYWHERE!)
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To: SoConPubbie; GAD
SoConPubbie: In fact, I doubt you like Fred at all and doubt your sincerity.

Yawn...it is the standard FredHead attack on motives of all who don't drink the Kool-Aid. They really known how to sell thier product, don't they, GAD? LOL

27 posted on 11/21/2007 3:16:24 PM PST by SergeiRachmaninov
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To: Jaysun
I'm Irish. I like drunk and dour too. I also have no problem with Fred.

I ain't Irish, but I can get down with a little drunk and dour, myself.

It'd be a fool, though, who'd wish me in the White House (though I have a good heart...when awake, sober, and alert).

28 posted on 11/21/2007 3:20:03 PM PST by SergeiRachmaninov
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Good enough for me, and the majority here on FR...

Many people try to compare this GOP primary to Reagan's 1980 primary to compare Fred to Reagan

This primary race is far different, in many diverse and fundamental ways

The GOP field is far more recognizable, well known and well funded than who Reagan faced in 1980.

Fred is going to need more than ``I'm just Fred,'' persona

I like Fred just as he is, but he needs to be a whole lot more aggressive and smarter or he will not break though the pack to win the nomination.

29 posted on 11/21/2007 3:21:20 PM PST by Popman (My doohickey is discombobulated)
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To: greyfoxx39
Says tne n00b who signed up just to flack for Romney.

Yawn...see my no. 27.

Do you FredHeads read these ad hominems off a crib sheet or do you put together a few of the usual putdowns on the fly for each new poster not cheering Fred's brilliant campaign?

30 posted on 11/21/2007 3:24:27 PM PST by SergeiRachmaninov
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To: SergeiRachmaninov

Yea, except we provide proof, just like I did.

To many of you anti-fredheads pretend to like Fred so much or to be a supporter of Fred, yet you do a little digging into the posting history and what do you find?

The truth!

And Yawn to you too buddy!


31 posted on 11/21/2007 3:24:59 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: SergeiRachmaninov
"Do you FredHeads read these ad hominems off a crib sheet or do you put together a few of the usual putdowns on the fly for each new poster not cheering Fred's brilliant campaign?"

Kinda like the ad hominem attacks on Fred right?

He's too old!

He's too tired!

He has no fire in the Belly!

His wife is a trophy wife!

Way too much projection goin' on around here!

Pot Meet Kettle!
32 posted on 11/21/2007 3:28:01 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: SergeiRachmaninov

I usually reply in kind when Fredheads are called fanatical and obsessive.


33 posted on 11/21/2007 3:32:32 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (I have a tagline . I just don't think the forum police will allow me to use it. THEY'RE EVERYWHERE!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Clever, you go right for the throat out of the box.

Charming.

You live in denial. I speaketh the truth.

Prayers up for you.


34 posted on 11/21/2007 3:33:48 PM PST by GAD
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To: SoConPubbie

“He’s too old!
He’s too tired!
He has no fire in the Belly!
His wife is a trophy wife!”

I don’t care about any of those, but he hasn’t exactly run a whirlwind campaign. He’s been trending down in the last month or so. He did get a bump of a couple of points since NRTL endorsed him last week, but a couple of points is all he’s gained back so far. I don’t think he’s too old...or too tired, but I do think he’s got to join the battle at some point, or else get out of the race. There are plenty of people like myself who are still waiting to see what Fred’s going to do. So far he’s not done much since he announced. I don’t think the “I’m just Fred” style of campaign is going to get it done.


35 posted on 11/21/2007 3:36:03 PM PST by snarkybob
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To: Romneyfor President2008

“I like Fred, too. But I think his followers are a little fanatical and obsessive. LOL”

Some are, some aren’t like FReepers for any candidate. Many of our Thompson supporters like myself, were for Hunter first. The MSM has refused to give him airtime from day one
so he has been effectively shut out of the process. I grew up in Massachusetts. A conservative politician is unheard of there. Romney’s platform is not conducive to his history.
I don’t believe politicians who move to the right all of a sudden, and run for POTUS. Huckabee looks like a boy scout, and lies like a rug. Rudy? Fuhgetaboutit!!


36 posted on 11/21/2007 3:37:05 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Romneyfor President2008
"I like Fred, too. But I think his followers are a little fanatical and obsessive. LOL"

What a riot. I guess you've never seen pissant in action on a Duncan Hunter thread. Talk about fanatical, you'd think his guy can walk on water and cure lepers.

37 posted on 11/21/2007 3:37:59 PM PST by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I was at the Ames meeting. He did well. People are so used to hype and fluff, they don’t know how to interpret Fred. I asked him to explain why he calls himself a federalist, he did a great job of answering. You have to interpret most things he says from the federalist perspective and I agree with it.
38 posted on 11/21/2007 3:38:32 PM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: SoConPubbie

“Kinda like the ad hominem attacks on Fred right?

He’s too old!

He’s too tired!

He has no fire in the Belly!

His wife is a trophy wife!”

The MSM has caused most of this, especially The Fox Rudy Network(Rudy’s law firm worked for Murdoch)


39 posted on 11/21/2007 3:39:04 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: GAD
I treat you like the operative that you are. BTW... check South Carolina’s newest poll. willard and huck are... well... South Carolina is not Iowa and New Hampshire.

LLS

40 posted on 11/21/2007 3:39:41 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This is another example of an article that is far more positive than the headline, which is intended to create an impression. While this interviewer could have asked anything, he decided to use his time with Fred ask about one of the most pressing issues of our time... Fred's "demeanor" which the writer described as "dour". I noticed that in some places, the article was packaged along with a carefully selected photo to complete the created image.

From the article:

Thompson, who played a tough-minded and gruff district attorney on television's "Law & Order," offers precisely that image as he campaigns for the GOP presidential nomination. He's generally serious and direct, with little of the backslapping and joking of many of his rivals.

"I laugh when I am amused and I'm amused a lot," said Thompson, in an interview with The Associated Press. "When I'm talking about terrorism, when I'm talking about bankrupting the next generation, when I talk about what is going on in Washington, I am not amused. I don't think it's funny."

I guess I don't think it's funny either. I'm just fine with "Just Fred".

41 posted on 11/21/2007 3:40:29 PM PST by Route66 (America's Main Street - - - President Fred D. Thompson /"The Constitution means what is says.")
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To: Bobbisox
LOL! Position papers? What is he, a ninth-grade English student?

This may come as a great shock to you, but "position papers" don't win one the presidency. Energy, action, and executive experience win the presidency.

42 posted on 11/21/2007 3:40:47 PM PST by Michael A. Velli (Mitt in '08)
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To: SoConPubbie
The fact that Fred seems to be too old, too tired, too uninterested, too dour...people will understandably see these things differently. It is a style that many of us find unappealling. But it is not -- if it gets results in the campaign -- disqualifying. I am not surprised that those who strongly support Fred may be able to overlook these things.

But here is this: The knocks on Fred's style were not invented but people trying to knock him down. They comprise a tough, but not unreasonable critique of his demeanor. Sure, people will use his negative attributes against him. But they are not making these things up.

43 posted on 11/21/2007 3:43:34 PM PST by SergeiRachmaninov
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To: Michael A. Velli

The only “action” I have seen are
Fred’s “papers”.

All the others are just spinning and gladhanding


44 posted on 11/21/2007 3:50:02 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: GAD

Answers like this is why people don’t “get him”. Lack of energy? These are the same people that would have attacked Dick Cheney because he “has a bad heart” BS, so he can’t be out president. People that believe this horse manure, should go ahead now and vote for Ron Paul.


45 posted on 11/21/2007 3:52:02 PM PST by Blue Highway
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To: Romneyfor President2008

And your name is a little presumtuous. Good luck on him becoming President in 2008. Looks like his biggest rival now is the Huckster who spend a fraction of what Romney poured into the early stages.


46 posted on 11/21/2007 3:54:13 PM PST by Blue Highway
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To: Popman
Fred is going to need more than ``I'm just Fred,'' persona

Agreed. If Fred doesn't kick it up a notch or two, he'll be saying "I'm just Fred" on January 20, 2009 while another candidate will be saying "I'm the President"!

47 posted on 11/21/2007 4:13:06 PM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Imagine that another Fred Thompson thread on FR

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48 posted on 11/21/2007 4:44:11 PM PST by gitmogrunt (8 years of Clinton and 8 years of Bush Destroyed America......)
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To: GAD
"No energy whatsoever. No chance."

Dean had "energy". And led in the polls greatly. Now that was dems I know, but the lesson is still there. This far out anything goes.


49 posted on 11/21/2007 4:53:28 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: rednesss
"TERRORISM IS NOT FUNNY - nuff said..."

Bump to "Just Fred"

FRED VETS, SIGN UP TODAY AT:

50 posted on 11/21/2007 4:56:31 PM PST by W04Man (I'm Now With Fred http://Vets4Fred.net)
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