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Lee Harvey Oswald's Malign Legacy
netwmd.com ^ | Nov 21 2007 | Daniel Pipes

Posted on 11/21/2007 4:31:55 PM PST by forty_years

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All may find this interesting.

In case you don't know who James "Scotty" Reston was here's one description.

"When President Kennedy finished a difficult meeting with Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev, the first person he talked to was not one of his advisers, his vice president, or his wife. Walking out of the meeting, Kennedy spoke first with James B. Reston (1909-95). And so it was for president after president, from Truman through Eisenhower, JFK, LBJ, Nixon, Ford, and Carter. Reston was the most powerful, most admired, and most influential newspaper columnist America had ever seen, the best journalist of his time and perhaps of any time."

I just picked this link below because it was the first to show up, it comports with what I've learned elsewhere. Reston published details of the 1961 Kennedy disaster after the assassination.

Bay of Pigs + Khrushchev, Kennedy at Vienna in 1961 = Viet Nam.

61 posted on 11/21/2007 8:14:43 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
Ans: LBJ>>>>>>>>>>>

Ceasar, beware the ides of March.

John, beware the ides of Texas.

That theory is as good as several others.

62 posted on 11/21/2007 8:18:00 PM PST by Candor7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_(1258))
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To: Vinnie
One shot came from the rear. There were 3 in quick succession . yes? Maybe 4. No way Oswald could have gotten them all off with his level of expertise. I do not believe he actually fired a shot.His subsequent behavior is not consistent with being a shooter either.

Many want desperately to put exactitude on an event that will never have it. You are right about that shot coming from the rear. But we cannot say that Oswald pulled the trigger, because others were involved. At best, we will never know. I happen to believe Oswald was a carefully set screen, given all of the facts as well as the shooting forensics.

63 posted on 11/21/2007 8:29:23 PM PST by Candor7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_(1258))
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To: editor-surveyor
You omit LBJ.

I would omit him too!

I guess Vietnam was not pulling our fat out of the fire then.

65 posted on 11/21/2007 8:36:12 PM PST by Candor7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_(1258))
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To: Rudder
The last straw was the sealing of the Warren Report from any form of public inspection. From that moment on, those "in power" were no longer trusted. That was the spawning of the american radical movement of the '60's.

I have to agree. I was 19 at the time of the assasination, and remember quite well the overall reaction to the sealing of the whitewash job. The anger rose quickly, and soon became random violence the like of which had not been seen in this country.

66 posted on 11/21/2007 8:41:54 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: Candor7
"You omit LBJ."

In what way did I omit him? I listed him first, and he was the worst. Viet Nam was his baby; they owned millions in Michelin stock, and that was why he escalated the war days after taking office.

67 posted on 11/21/2007 8:46:20 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: Candor7

There ARE space aliens among us!


68 posted on 11/21/2007 9:10:24 PM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than to have to fight them OVER HERE!)
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To: editor-surveyor
Sorry My bad. I am getting sleepy, looking for "LBJ", I missed Johnson.

Time to hit the hay!

Thanks for the good com.

This was a good thread, I learned a lot from it.

One, that I have another book to read.

69 posted on 11/21/2007 9:12:00 PM PST by Candor7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_(1258))
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To: arthurus
There ARE space aliens among us!>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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Who?

70 posted on 11/21/2007 9:30:52 PM PST by Candor7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_(1258))
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To: Candor7
RE: omit LBJ?

Speaking of books, Blood, Money & Power: How L.B.J. Killed J.F.K. by Barr McCellan. Published several years ago.

I have heard several interviews with Mr. McClellan. I have not read the book. (Mr. McClellan was a lawyer in the Texas firm that handled LBJ personal stuff and such, if I remember correctly.) I became interested in the folks he writes about almost fifty years ago.

Because, "in 1961, Henry Marshall was found shot to death on his remote Texas farm. He had been shot five times with a .22 caliber rifle and, since the rifle was lying beside his body, the coroner had no problem coming up with the probable scenario: Suicide. The only problem was the type of rifle - it was a bolt-action . . . ."

Mr. Marshall had been investigating the shenanigans of Billie Sol Estes.

(Years later another suicide would affect me in the same manner, Vince Foster.)

I don't know if you are old enough to remember Billie Sol Estes, Bobby Baker, Mac Wallace, Lyndon Baines Johnson (Rasputin's evil twin), and more of course.

Well, after Estes served his prison term he talked. Mac Wallace murdered Mr. Marshall and many others. He talked and he talked.

I think Baker served about 18 months. There was a lot more to Baker than a measly 18 months paid for. Baker considered LBJ is closest friend. Indeed, as Senate Majority Leader LBJ depended upon Baker.

There was talk of no LBJ on the '64 ticket and there were these (and other) LBJ associates being pursued by the Kennedy DoJ.

After the assassination it seemed that these stories kind of faded from the news.

In those days there was no Internet and the "Fairness Doctrine" kept controversial topics off radio. There were however limited-circulation publications and still some conservative newspapers around the country. It was very difficult to find alternate news about LBJ.

Of course the "underground" press (Ramparts, East Village Other, Berkeley Barb) hated Johnson but mainly because he was fighting their Ho in Hanoi.

When LBJ entered Hell the Devil stood up out of respect.

71 posted on 11/21/2007 11:20:21 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: editor-surveyor
Is there a person with an IQ over 65 that believes that Oswald was anything other than a pawn?

That's what I thought until I read Gerald Posner's excellent and highly regarded Case Closed a few months ago. It'll change your mind. Oswald did it because he was a communist fruitloop. The conspiracy theories were put forward by leftists, especially early on. It's easy to see why: they didn't want a communist to get the blame.

72 posted on 11/21/2007 11:36:47 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick

Oswald may have been a ‘fruitloop,’ but the conspiracy is far beyond theory, and no leftist had anything to do with it. The assasination was due to the very same tyranny that has dogged the common man for a millenium, and it poked it’s head up again last week. It’s time to get your head out from under the bed and act on the facts while you can. Wait too long and it’ll be all hindsight.


73 posted on 11/22/2007 1:23:00 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Yeah, I hear you but I think you’re wrong. Posner’s arguments are very persuasive.


74 posted on 11/24/2007 12:33:06 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick

When Posner can offer explanations that ring true for things like agent Abraham Bolden getting framed, and convicted, for a crime he couldn’t have committed, to keep him from testifying before the Warren Commission, he will begin to have credibility. I don’t see that happening soon.


75 posted on 11/24/2007 10:16:49 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: sgtyork

Read the new book “Blacklisted By History” a new, highly favorable bio of McCarthy (which the Moonbats hate with venom).


76 posted on 11/29/2007 8:29:44 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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