Taliban Control Half Of Afghanistan, Says Report

The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 11-22-2007

[Ultra Sonic 007]

Looking at the documents they have on the site...over half of them are basically pushing for more opium.

[ldish]

found this online...seems like a bogus group with other hidden motives for sure....

Ms. Norine MacDonald, Q.C.
President and lead field researcher
Senlis Council Afghanistan
Kandahar City

Ms. Mcdonald recently said in a conference:

“The Senlis Council is a project of the Mercator Fund, which is in turn a project of the Network of European Foundations (NEF). I’m the president of the Gabriel Foundation, which is a member of NEF and from which the Mercator Fund’s money comes. I’m managing director of the Mercator Fund, and I’m the president and founder and lead field researcher of the Senlis Council and Senlis Afghanistan – so I have many different hats. I spend about 80 per cent of my time in Afghanistan – basically I live there.”

“NEF is an operational platform primarily committed to developing operational cooperation between foundations in Europe but also open to collaboration with the public and private sectors in developing its initiatives. Its areas of intervention to promote systemic social change include: migration, European citizenship, support the European integration process, youth empowerment, global European projects.”

Big deal but still don’t know the real players behind the organizations. OK she’s connected to the NEF , President of Gabriel Fund, the funding source for Mercator, managing director of Mercator, president and founder of Senlis council and senlis Afghanistan.

So she is Norine Macdonald ibn senlis Afstan ibn senlis council ibn mercator ibn gabriel ibn NEF al-Rashid, sounds pretty straight forward. A one man show or front.

Not commenting on her point of views, seems pretty much a one man band though.

But we are still left with an omnipotent Vancouver lawyer, with offices is London, Paris, Rio, ... and a shadowy network of European foundations hiding the source of funding, and quite possibly, the source of their universal acceptance by Canadian journalism.

[SolidWood]

Rather an illustration of too many folks believing every crap the media utters.

[IronJack]

Lies like this actually work in our favor. Since there is flimsy evidence to support such an inflammatory statement, the "news" agency reporting it does nothing to persuade people that it's true, while at the same time damaging their own credibility to the point that they are perceived as even more partisan than they really are. That actually lessens their ability to advance their anti-American agenda.

If you're going to tell lies, at least confine them to the realm of believability.

[Lancey Howard]

Am I the only one who’s noticed that - now that Iraq is turning for the better in a major way - this news about Taliban ‘controlling half of Afghanistan’ is only now coming into focus?

You've broken the code.
Expect to be hearing plenty from the rats about this over the next few weeks.

[Lancey Howard]

Please see post #4. Afghanistan is the new Iraq.

This story is part of the set-up. There will be similar stories about “the deteriorating situation” in Afghanistan sprinkled around in the foreign press for a few weeks and the gist of them will eventually be picked up by Democrat organs in the United States such as the NY Times, MSNBC, CNN, and the dinosaur networks.

And once the table has been satisfactorily set, the rats will begin their harping. This will all happen fairly quickly.

FRegards,
LH

[Lancey Howard]

Hi! I see your back from your “time out”.

[dixiechick2000]

"I thought we went in there to run these nuts out?

What happened?"

They are there because they've been run out of Iraq.

I'm surprised you didn't get that.

AND...there's an offensive in Afghanistan.

I guess you didn't see that either.

[dixiechick2000]

I just saw your name pop up here.

Despite our differences, politically speaking,
I’m happy you’re back!

Try your best not to do that, again. ;o)

[devere]

“Rather an illustration of too many folks believing every crap the media utters.”

If the report were in The Guardian or the NY Times, I’d find it easy to agree with you. But the Telegraph is what passes for a right-wing paper in the UK. Take a look at their website and decide for yourself. Their business editor Ambrose Evans-Pritchard is one of the the most pro-US journalists in the world:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/11/12/ccview112.xml

So if the Telepgraph tells me Afghanistan is in big trouble,
they may well be correct.

[Brimack34]

I will wait for the O’Reilly report before I comment.

[EBH]

And there is also this:

I've actually talked to some people who have that position and I can understand their sentiment. I can understand that they see the fighting and they think we shouldn't be involved in that and it's too risky for our military.

But if the international community, NATO, leaves Afghanistan, if the Taliban and al-Qaida have Southern Afghanistan, we know what will happen because we've already seen it. That basically makes us complicit in what will be a crime against humanity in Southern Afghanistan. It's like giving Germany back to the Nazis.

I don't think we can say it's OK if we lose this war. We went there for good reasons, reasons that I think Canada can support. We're not warmongers, we don't like to fight. But in certain circumstances, the right thing to do is to fight and that's what our military is for. They've got to stay. We made that commitment. It would be a complete betrayal of the Afghans [to leave].

http://thetyee.ca/Views/2006/11/01/MacDonald/

'Like Giving Germany Back to Nazis'

[agere_contra]

IIRC the primary report from the “thinktank” was published yesterday.

It was nonsense then. It’s no truer now that it’s being reported second-hand.

[agere_contra]

So if the Telepgraph tells me Afghanistan is in big trouble, they may well be correct.

Agreed, but be careful, the Telegraph is doing no such thing. They are just reporting on Senlis's report, who's motives are pretty much those of the New York Times.

[Tribune7]

Am I the only one who’s noticed that - now that Iraq is turning for the better in a major way - this news about Taliban ‘controlling half of Afghanistan’ is only now coming into focus?

I think you can say Bingo.

[SolidWood]

Oh please. You know the source of the claim that Afghanistan is in deep trouble? A liberal think tank. Give them as much credibility as you want. I give them close to none.

BTW even the liberal BBC and NYT talk now about success in Iraq. Is this untrue because they usually are liberal and defeatist? Even blind chickens pick a worm sometimes... and sometimes even supposedly conservative papers get it wrong.

[dangus]

And what information goes into the Senlis report? One of them met an Islamofascist imam at a synagogue burning?

[IronJack]

You've nailed it. This is a runup to the general election, where statistics show the situation in Iraq improving, thus depriving the liberals of one of their most proven issues. So they'll just invent some other bad news, and this is the rough sketch of what that's going to look like.

This and "the economy." This completely synthetic housing bust, the shaky dollar, "gloomy" holiday sales, sagging consumer confidence ... All that's missing are some heart-wrenching tales of The Homeless and we've got a reprise of Clinton-Bush '92.

[ricks_place]

Article based on a Senlis Council Report, an agenda driven NGO - (Poppies for Medicine and who knows what else).