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Posted on 11/21/2007 11:27:10 PM PST by F15Eagle
HONG KONG, China (AP) -- A flotilla of U.S. warships carrying as many as 8,000 American sailors was refused entry to Hong Kong's port, the U.S. Navy said Thursday, in an unusual twist to relations strained by disputes over trade and Iran's nuclear program.
China watchers said it was the first time they had heard of a ship being turned away from Hong Kong waters, although during periods of tense China-U.S. relations Beijing had refused requests for U.S. ships to make port calls to the former British colony.
(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...
Guess the Chinese are mad that we didn’t want lead in the kiddie’s toys?
Since they will be in the area, they should just make their port of call in Taiwan instead :-)
Bye bye Olympics...
“Dear potential TV advertiser: because of the Chinese govts refusal to stand with the rest of the world against a nuclearized Iran/the genocide in Darfur/the occupation of Tibet, if you so much as run one ad during the Chicomm Olympics broadcast, we will never purchase another of your products until the end of time...”
sucks that all those families flew there to meet the sailors....
That would be an EXCELLENT response - the message would be loud and clear
Healthy thread going here:
U.S. aircraft carrier (Kitty Hawk) denied access to Hong Kong (last minute denial by China)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1929177/posts
That’s so frustrating (for the families/sailors). During the Vietnam era, my parents had a sweet little rendezvous in Hong Kong (mini belated honeymoon). He has served aboard the Kitty Hawk but at the time, he was on the Midway and we were stationed in Japan. We had to stay behind with a sitter.
thanks
Yeah I hate to see it to. The Chinese gov’t never were smart enough just to trade. They have to do it dirty and get in bed with despots like Kim Jong Il.
This is a very petty petulant act on the part of the Chicoms. They basically screwed a bunch of military families and broke a lot of kids and spouses hearts. The Chicoms are absolute bastards and I wish the politicians in this country would wake up to that fact.
BTW the same business types who want open borders and amnesty love “free trade” with China. There’s nothing more expensive than cheap labor and few things more dangerous to our long term economic and military health than “free trade” with China.
It’s true with all their theft and ripoffs the Chicoms can beat us to death with their slave labor, economically.
Ah but Hong Kong was under the sweet benevolent rule of the British in those days. The only hazard then was the coffee!
Boycotting the 08 olympics would be better!
It’s okay now, the ship can go in. Looks like they just wanted to f*** with us:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/11/22/hongkong.us.warships.ap/index.html
I guess Walmart is happy now. LOL
Yet another reminder that Chicoms are SCUM of the earth. They run a slave labor society devoid of political and human rights, they are helping Iran and Cuba and North Korea and all the world’s worst regimes to continue on their paths of depravity, etc. etc. Now they jerk our military families around like yo-yos.....
Just remember how they almost killed and then so badly mistreated our P-3 crew while stealing all of our hi-tech equipment.....
Hey Chicom scum, keep in mind that you crave the world’s recognition and support during the Beijing Olympics next summer — we can still really screw that up for you, and we should!!!!
The French have an old expression from colonial days, "En garde a la Chinoiserie".
"Chinoiserie" = Chinese like trickery.
Per F & F News, the USN has just told the ChiComs to go pound sand. The Kitty Hawk strike group is going home.
““Dear potential TV advertiser: because of the Chinese govts refusal to stand with the rest of the world against a nuclearized Iran/the genocide in Darfur/the occupation of Tibet, if you so much as run one ad during the Chicomm Olympics broadcast, we will never purchase another of your products until the end of time...””
I’m with you on this one.
Or because President Bush presented that shiny medal to the
Dali Lama?
SHANGHAI, Sept 7 — TWO Chinese warships sailed into Pearl Harbor as hundreds of Chinese well-wishers waved Chinese and American flags from a pier and shouted greetings of “Huanying!” or “Welcome!” The Associated Press said today.
The Qingdao, a guided missile destroyer, and the refueling tanker Hongzehu are the first Chinese navy vessels to call on a US state in six years, AP said.
Such port visits dropped off after the collision of a US spy plane and a Chinese fighter jet off China’s coast in 2001. But US-China military relations have been improving recently as US leaders cautiously seek to increase exchanges and better understand China’s military as it rapidly modernizes.
Chinese sailors lined the deck as the Qingdao glided next to a Pearl Harbor pier to loud cheers from local Chinese-Americans and Chinese studying or visiting the United States.
A large red banner with the words “Promote Sino-American friendship, maintain world peace” festooned the side of the gray-hulled vessel.
“The aim of our visit is to enhance understanding, promote trust, expand cooperation and enhance friendship,” Rear Adm. Wang Fushan, the deputy commander of China’s North Sea Fleet, said upon arriving yesterday, his words translated for the crowd.
The trip marks the first visit by a Chinese warship to the US since 2000, when the Qingdao visited Pearl Harbor and Everett, Wash. In 2003, two Chinese navy vessels called on Guam, a US territory in the Western Pacific.
While in Hawaii waters, the Qingdao and the Hongzehu will practice communicating with and passing US ships. Their roughly 500 sailors will meet American sailors and have an opportunity to tour Hawaii.
On Saturday, they will leave for California to conduct an offshore search and rescue exercise with the US Navy.
US military leaders say the drills will help lay a foundation for US and Chinese sailors to communicate when their ships meet one another at sea. US leaders say this is increasingly likely given that China is building a “blue water” navy of ships capable of traveling great distances.
Four years ago, the Qingdao and an accompanying supply ship completed the Chinese navy’s first around-the-world tour. With stops from Egypt to Peru, the cruise demonstrated Beijing’s ability to send ships far beyond the coastal areas of China where its navy has traditionally operated.
US military leaders also hope the Qingdao’s visit and other US-China exchanges will give them further insight into China’s military.
Rear Adm. Townsend Alexander, Navy Region Hawaii commander, welcomed the Qingdao’s arrival.
“As we have seen with other navies throughout the world, the opportunity to interact and build friendships just helps to strengthen the bond between the countries,” Alexander said.
Perhaps we should host an alternative site for the next Olympics to protest human rights abuses by the Chinese.
I disagree. We should not waste our time screwing up the Olympics. That is a childish endeavor.
We should nuke the bastards NOW!!!
I am sure the Hong Kong bars and women are very upset about this development.
Ninety percent of what comes from China is useless junk that we could easily do without. What we do need, such as clothing, we can find elsewhere. Stop buying their trinkets for 90 days and they'll be begging for our ships to come back.
No chinese products sold in the USA for the next 5 weeks.
Sounds like a just penalty.
These mutts need to be taught obedience.
I guess I’m the only one here who thinks it’s odd to expect another country to let our military ships dock in one of their ports, unless they’re a close ally. Why would China have to allow this in the first place?
Most of them used to welcome U.S. warships for the money and trade openings. Hong Kong was British so it *was* an ally. The Chinese said nothing would change about Hong Kong though I found that hard to believe at the time.
I can see the benefit of doing it. If I were running a port city, I would want the commerce. I just don’t see why people are mad at China. Move to the next port. Taiwan for example.
The ship continued on to its next port. I say good for the Kitty Hawk. Uncle sam should pick up the relatives that made the journey their and let them meet up with the crew at the next port of call.
It’s because this is a Chinese retaliation for either the bad toys and/or the dalai lama. They felt they wanted to make a statement and chose to do this on Thanksgiving to hit military families. It’s a pretty lousy thing to do.
But then the U.S.A. is borrowing money from China (and others). It’s quite a complicated affair.
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/prem/200510u/nj_schneider_2005-10-25
There’s a lot of Chinese things we should be boycotting.
The Chinese hold about $1 Trillion in U.S. debt. About 1/9th of our national debt.
I know. I think in some ways that’s a good thing. Economics may keep us out of war.
What’s the sailing time from the South China Sea, to Taiwan?
If ever there were a post-Nixon US President, who just might actually do that — it’s W. I mean, he infuriates me about amnesty and his steadfast refusal to do anything about the two border guards rotting in prison for doing their jobs.
But I can actually see W - doing this.
Even showing up on deck himself, to hand out turkey dinners. :)
Think about the meeting with the Dalai Lama recently. It really wouldn’t be much different, were the Kitty Hawk to sail throught the Taiwan strait, and right into harbor at Jeelung.
I just checked the South China Morning Post website (HK’s major English language paper)
They’re still saying Hong Kong welcomes the Kitty Hawk, with the story that Beijing said ok.
Waiting now, for the other shoe to drop...
*wake*
Sorry, I was dreamin’.
Protest against the low dollar?
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not unusual. Navy warships are not welcome in China anyway and they would have been alot better off going to Japan after the incident with the chinese sub and the kittyhawk. We would never allow a Chinese warship in port here
YOU are correct. We dont allow warships in our ports unless they are our allies. They could have nukes on them. The chinese dont want the kittyhawk which is also a warship in their ports.
Read on FOX NEWS, the Chinese changed their minds.
The ships can port now.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0%2C2933%2C312528%2C00.html
Not that it's that big a deal but the Kitty Hawks has a steamed powered plant not a diesel powered.
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